Watching the One Vision recording session video I wondered who could shed some light on the track Brian is playing on piano at the start of the piece? does it have a name? was it ever recorded properly or did it become something else?
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That track became "Who wants to live forever" and is included as a bonus track on "A kind of Magic CD called "Forever"
Or more correctly, this is probably the track people call Butterfly. Probably somewhere in the archives if it was recorded.
Adam.
Adam.
I shall listen to Forever tonight, it doesn't sound right but I've not heard that track for a long time, thinking about the track Brian was playing (in my head) I can't make the chord progression fit, but maybe.
Butterfly sounds more like it, I haven't heard of it but I do seem to remember something about it on here some time ago, probably in one of John Stuarts threads.
Butterfly sounds more like it, I haven't heard of it but I do seem to remember something about it on here some time ago, probably in one of John Stuarts threads.
Yes, it IS indeed the piano-think we refer to as 'Butterfly'. Though there is no official word on this, a musical ear (like mine ;-) would indeed suggest that this is could be a very early stage idea that eventually evolved into WWTLF.
Bit like the hidden track on the Another World album... which of course is a piano version/thingy of Business.
Bit like the hidden track on the Another World album... which of course is a piano version/thingy of Business.
uploading to rapidshare for you all know for those who dont have it...
Agreed with Jeroen.
This piece has definitely always been known as 'Butterfly' (though I've no idea where that title comes from), but from the first time I ever heard it, it always struck me as being the beginnings of WWTLF. All of its chords are present in WWTLF, in roughly the same order, and the pace and feel of both songs are pretty similar.
This piece has definitely always been known as 'Butterfly' (though I've no idea where that title comes from), but from the first time I ever heard it, it always struck me as being the beginnings of WWTLF. All of its chords are present in WWTLF, in roughly the same order, and the pace and feel of both songs are pretty similar.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]young_strat_man wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]WhatMustHeThink wrote: [/QUOTENAME]here you go:
http://rapidshare.de/files/34054270/Butterfly.wav.html [/QUOTE]
I think everyone who has Queen recordings has this track, it is as rare as the 5.1 mixes on the fan mix thread. [/QUOTE]
Not everyone. Thanks WhatMustHeThink.
http://rapidshare.de/files/34054270/Butterfly.wav.html [/QUOTE]
I think everyone who has Queen recordings has this track, it is as rare as the 5.1 mixes on the fan mix thread. [/QUOTE]
Not everyone. Thanks WhatMustHeThink.
I don't see how anyone could think this had anything to do with WWTLF. You can hear him humming a melody that is clearly nowhere near that song. In fact, to follow the same logic as what has been suggested here, I could say it was the begginings of Brian reaching out to do a reworking of GSTQ!!!! Totally ridiculous and idiotic, and based somewhere in la-la land.
Adam.
Adam.
Haven't read this thread yet but the first replies made me laugh my arse off.
This stuff isn't WWTLF. At all. It's just... different.
This stuff isn't WWTLF. At all. It's just... different.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Adam Baboolal wrote: [/QUOTENAME]I don't see how anyone could think this had anything to do with WWTLF. You can hear him humming a melody that is clearly nowhere near that song. In fact, to follow the same logic as what has been suggested here, I could say it was the begginings of Brian reaching out to do a reworking of GSTQ!!!! Totally ridiculous and idiotic, and based somewhere in la-la land.
Adam.[/QUOTE]
It's not in the humming, it's in the piano!
And nobody said it IS WWTLF! It SOUNDS like a very early improv that MIGHT have evolved later on into WWTLF.
Ridiciolous and idiotic?
Yeah, when you only listen to vocals maybe. I cannot blame you. You probably wouldn't hear the difference between an A chord and Am chord either. I know it's hard for non-musicians to listen to a piece of music in another way, but if you call this 'ridiciolous and idiotic' Obviously you are no musician and have no musical hearing...
Because, this assumption is not just from lalalala land, there is very serious reasons to assume that this has something in any way to do with said song!
the "what is this thing..." until "slips away from us..." is in that piece EXACTLY. All the chords, in the same tempo, in the same key, in the same order.
Adam.[/QUOTE]
It's not in the humming, it's in the piano!
And nobody said it IS WWTLF! It SOUNDS like a very early improv that MIGHT have evolved later on into WWTLF.
Ridiciolous and idiotic?
Yeah, when you only listen to vocals maybe. I cannot blame you. You probably wouldn't hear the difference between an A chord and Am chord either. I know it's hard for non-musicians to listen to a piece of music in another way, but if you call this 'ridiciolous and idiotic' Obviously you are no musician and have no musical hearing...
Because, this assumption is not just from lalalala land, there is very serious reasons to assume that this has something in any way to do with said song!
the "what is this thing..." until "slips away from us..." is in that piece EXACTLY. All the chords, in the same tempo, in the same key, in the same order.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]jeroen wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Adam Baboolal wrote: [/QUOTENAME]I don't see how anyone could think this had anything to do with WWTLF. You can hear him humming a melody that is clearly nowhere near that song. In fact, to follow the same logic as what has been suggested here, I could say it was the begginings of Brian reaching out to do a reworking of GSTQ!!!! Totally ridiculous and idiotic, and based somewhere in la-la land.
Adam.[/QUOTE]
It's not in the humming, it's in the piano!
And nobody said it IS WWTLF! It SOUNDS like a very early improv that MIGHT have evolved later on into WWTLF.
Ridiciolous and idiotic?
Yeah, when you only listen to vocals maybe. I cannot blame you. You probably wouldn't hear the difference between an A chord and Am chord either. I know it's hard for non-musicians to listen to a piece of music in another way, but if you call this 'ridiciolous and idiotic' Obviously you are no musician and have no musical hearing...
Because, this assumption is not just from lalalala land, there is very serious reasons to assume that this has something in any way to do with said song!
the "what is this thing..." until "slips away from us..." is in that piece EXACTLY. All the chords, in the same tempo, in the same key, in the same order.
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Wow, what an idiot..! lol
Did you read what I had written? Not well, it seems.
1st - the comment about lala land, etc. etc. was on how I was leading the reader with my GSTQ madness. It wasn't aimed at anyone you ninny! It was a contrived example.
And I make no assumptions as I HATE assumptions in our crazy world. I hate them with a passion, I swear!
2nd - You made the biggest assumption. That I wasn't a musician. Guess again. Not only that, but I also lend musical/engineering comments here when I can.
Now, back to logical discussion here, rather than assumptions. Didn't Brian have WWTLF written in a car ride back from watching some edited scenes of the Highlander film? So, surely, by the time they hit the studio, the idea is not going to be from this improv.
Adam.
Adam.[/QUOTE]
It's not in the humming, it's in the piano!
And nobody said it IS WWTLF! It SOUNDS like a very early improv that MIGHT have evolved later on into WWTLF.
Ridiciolous and idiotic?
Yeah, when you only listen to vocals maybe. I cannot blame you. You probably wouldn't hear the difference between an A chord and Am chord either. I know it's hard for non-musicians to listen to a piece of music in another way, but if you call this 'ridiciolous and idiotic' Obviously you are no musician and have no musical hearing...
Because, this assumption is not just from lalalala land, there is very serious reasons to assume that this has something in any way to do with said song!
the "what is this thing..." until "slips away from us..." is in that piece EXACTLY. All the chords, in the same tempo, in the same key, in the same order.
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Wow, what an idiot..! lol
Did you read what I had written? Not well, it seems.
1st - the comment about lala land, etc. etc. was on how I was leading the reader with my GSTQ madness. It wasn't aimed at anyone you ninny! It was a contrived example.
And I make no assumptions as I HATE assumptions in our crazy world. I hate them with a passion, I swear!
2nd - You made the biggest assumption. That I wasn't a musician. Guess again. Not only that, but I also lend musical/engineering comments here when I can.
Now, back to logical discussion here, rather than assumptions. Didn't Brian have WWTLF written in a car ride back from watching some edited scenes of the Highlander film? So, surely, by the time they hit the studio, the idea is not going to be from this improv.
Adam.
"Butterfly" is the official name of the track, according to Brian. The story of it was told by Brian 4-6 years ago either in a fan club magazine or a Q/A session through Queenonline or brianmaynews.com, I cant remember.
Hmmm... maybe some people have a melody in their head for a long time before they actually find a moment to properly use it in a song?
Logical? Happens all the time!
Besides: yes, that is indeed what Brian said.
The footage with Butterly come from 1985.
Brian also said he wrote it after seeing a VERY ROUGH cut of the movie. Which was WAY before the film was done and by far not even all scenes were filmed.
Could it be this was as early as 1985?
Surely also LOGICAL, right?
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Then: If I misenterpreted the intention of your post, I am sorry. I probably missed something. Or it was because English is not my native language. I'm also sorry If I used the word 'assumption' wrongly for the same reason.
The fact that your 'rediciolous and idiotic' sentence starts on a new line, didn't make your post any clearer either.
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BUT: you also missed something my words. Because I know you for a long time and I KNOW you do studio-work. But if you are indeed in music, you should have also noted the quite remarkable similarities between Butterfly and WWTLF and NOT start about the humming.
Idiot.
Logical? Happens all the time!
Besides: yes, that is indeed what Brian said.
The footage with Butterly come from 1985.
Brian also said he wrote it after seeing a VERY ROUGH cut of the movie. Which was WAY before the film was done and by far not even all scenes were filmed.
Could it be this was as early as 1985?
Surely also LOGICAL, right?
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Then: If I misenterpreted the intention of your post, I am sorry. I probably missed something. Or it was because English is not my native language. I'm also sorry If I used the word 'assumption' wrongly for the same reason.
The fact that your 'rediciolous and idiotic' sentence starts on a new line, didn't make your post any clearer either.
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BUT: you also missed something my words. Because I know you for a long time and I KNOW you do studio-work. But if you are indeed in music, you should have also noted the quite remarkable similarities between Butterfly and WWTLF and NOT start about the humming.
Idiot.