[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]magicalfreddiemercury wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<b><font color=666600>Music Man wrote: [/QUOTENAME] People kill people. Guns are just another way to do it. Kitchen knives are another way. And just like kitchen knives serve a purpose, so do guns. [/QUOTE]
Bring a kitchen knife into a school and a lot more kids would come out alive.[/QUOTE]
You are missing the point entirely. Yes, more people would come out alive, but that doesn't make a damn bit of difference to the person who died. One person dying is too much, and having 50 die instead doesn't make it any worse. One life is just as valuable as 50. Just ask the one Principal who died when he was shot in his school. Is his life less valuable than the 5 Amish girls who died? I think not, and making value judgments like that doesn't help the argument at all. A life is a life, simple as that. Kill one or kill 50...it's still killing. Taking away guns may solve one facet of the problem, but not the problem itself.
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[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]CMU HistoryGirl wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]magicalfreddiemercury wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<b><font color=666600>Music Man wrote: [/QUOTENAME] People kill people. Guns are just another way to do it. Kitchen knives are another way. And just like kitchen knives serve a purpose, so do guns. [/QUOTE]
Bring a kitchen knife into a school and a lot more kids would come out alive.[/QUOTE]
You are missing the point entirely. Yes, more people would come out alive, but that doesn't make a damn bit of difference to the person who died. One person dying is too much, and having 50 die instead doesn't make it any worse. One life is just as valuable as 50. Just ask the one Principal who died when he was shot in his school. Is his life less valuable than the 5 Amish girls who died? I think not, and making value judgments like that doesn't help the argument at all. A life is a life, simple as that. Kill one or kill 50...it's still killing. Taking away guns may solve one facet of the problem, but not the problem itself. [/QUOTE]
I'm not missing any point. I'm stating that regardless of what else can be used as a weapon, gun laws should be revisited or at the very least, enforced. Why there seems to be an argument against that boggles my mind.
And for the record, I was not making a judgment as to the value of one life vs. many lives. My statement refers to the damage a gun can do in a given moment vs. what a knife can do. And if taking away guns solves even one facet of the problem, as you say, then it's worth it to do so WHILE addressing the heart of the problem and its possible cures.
Bring a kitchen knife into a school and a lot more kids would come out alive.[/QUOTE]
You are missing the point entirely. Yes, more people would come out alive, but that doesn't make a damn bit of difference to the person who died. One person dying is too much, and having 50 die instead doesn't make it any worse. One life is just as valuable as 50. Just ask the one Principal who died when he was shot in his school. Is his life less valuable than the 5 Amish girls who died? I think not, and making value judgments like that doesn't help the argument at all. A life is a life, simple as that. Kill one or kill 50...it's still killing. Taking away guns may solve one facet of the problem, but not the problem itself. [/QUOTE]
I'm not missing any point. I'm stating that regardless of what else can be used as a weapon, gun laws should be revisited or at the very least, enforced. Why there seems to be an argument against that boggles my mind.
And for the record, I was not making a judgment as to the value of one life vs. many lives. My statement refers to the damage a gun can do in a given moment vs. what a knife can do. And if taking away guns solves even one facet of the problem, as you say, then it's worth it to do so WHILE addressing the heart of the problem and its possible cures.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]magicalfreddiemercury wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<b><font color=666600>Music Man wrote: [/QUOTENAME] People kill people. Guns are just another way to do it. Kitchen knives are another way. And just like kitchen knives serve a purpose, so do guns. [/QUOTE]
Bring a kitchen knife into a school and a lot more kids would come out alive.[/QUOTE]
You can't take individual situations like that. In the aggregate, the amount of homocides with strict gun laws vs. without them would be about the same.
You have to look at the big picture. It's similar to the way people used to think about unemployment. "If we create technology that will do position A's job for them, or that will facilitate the job to require less people in position A, then massive unemployment will ensue." No.
Bring a kitchen knife into a school and a lot more kids would come out alive.[/QUOTE]
You can't take individual situations like that. In the aggregate, the amount of homocides with strict gun laws vs. without them would be about the same.
You have to look at the big picture. It's similar to the way people used to think about unemployment. "If we create technology that will do position A's job for them, or that will facilitate the job to require less people in position A, then massive unemployment will ensue." No.