[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Mercury SingerOfLife wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Phantom of the opera must be the worst song ive ever heard. Its soo obvious that he has tried to copy the structure of Bohemian rhap and he fails miserably.[/QUOTE]
Are you kidding me? If anything, Webber ripped off Echoes by Pink Floyd (the descending chromatic line).
By the way, putting you and Valensian Sky Surveillance in a room to discuss music is the most pointless thing ever, since neither of you bother to rationalize your arguments in any way. It's just a bunch of counter-productive drivel.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Sebastian wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Not flawless at all, but certainly a better live singer than Lord Teeth.[/QUOTE]
Haha...! I love it.
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I think he meant a song by Valensia with the same title. I wonder which is the most overused title for a song btw, 'Take My Breath Away' has been used quite several times too...
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Sebastian wrote: [/QUOTENAME]>
"> He had a most enviable vocal extension, with an outstanding range of three octaves and a major sixth, including his falsetto singing (F1 - D5).
Yes, but how often could he do those notes? Live, his range never was that large ... as some have mentioned here, sometimes it was merely an octave or a little more and that was it."
that was just a quote about his history as a singer in the studio. but yeah, he was often really ropey live. although apparently he hit a D5 during the impromptu at japan 85. thats RIDICULOUSLY high even for falsetto! mind u.... the more u hear it (its on andres website) the more it sounds like a complete fluke! especially since he wasn't on great voice in that gig!
"> He had a most enviable vocal extension, with an outstanding range of three octaves and a major sixth, including his falsetto singing (F1 - D5).
Yes, but how often could he do those notes? Live, his range never was that large ... as some have mentioned here, sometimes it was merely an octave or a little more and that was it."
that was just a quote about his history as a singer in the studio. but yeah, he was often really ropey live. although apparently he hit a D5 during the impromptu at japan 85. thats RIDICULOUSLY high even for falsetto! mind u.... the more u hear it (its on andres website) the more it sounds like a complete fluke! especially since he wasn't on great voice in that gig!
double post!
i haven't figured out the *quotes* thing yet.... kinda shows.
i haven't figured out the *quotes* thing yet.... kinda shows.
Are you people not listening? Danny Bowes out of Thunder is the best live rock singer this country has/had & unlike Freddie doesnt drop the key
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I have never in my life seen more musically closed-minded people than I have here at Queenzone. Yes, Freddie was amazing in many ways, but he had his flaws, like anyone else. And there were plenty of other singers who were as good as Freddie in many ways, or even better. His voice in concert was AVERAGE a lot of the time. ACCEPT IT. He sang We Are The Champions and Bohemian Rhapsody like the record version once or twice out of 400-500 times. He just couldn't do it live.
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When did he do this?
I have never in my life seen more musically closed-minded people than I have here at Queenzone. Yes, Freddie was amazing in many ways, but he had his flaws, like anyone else. And there were plenty of other singers who were as good as Freddie in many ways, or even better. His voice in concert was AVERAGE a lot of the time. ACCEPT IT. He sang We Are The Champions and Bohemian Rhapsody like the record version once or twice out of 400-500 times. He just couldn't do it live.
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When did he do this?
I rest my case - what annoys about Queen fans is they think Freddie was untouchable listen to any live Thunder (if you aint got a clue who they are do some research) dvd/cd & you'll notice it is identical to studio version or as close as.. the reason I keep harping on about Danny Bowes is he & Freddie are my two favourite singers with Danny just edging it as far as live perfomances go in terms of singing, nothing else i.e. being able to hold 250000 people in palms of your hands etc..
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Richy Mercury wrote: [/QUOTENAME]SIR GH SAID:
I have never in my life seen more musically closed-minded people than I have here at Queenzone. Yes, Freddie was amazing in many ways, but he had his flaws, like anyone else. And there were plenty of other singers who were as good as Freddie in many ways, or even better. His voice in concert was AVERAGE a lot of the time. ACCEPT IT. He sang We Are The Champions and Bohemian Rhapsody like the record version once or twice out of 400-500 times. He just couldn't do it live.
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Newcastle 12-4-79. This is definitely Freddie's strongest concert on tape.
I have never in my life seen more musically closed-minded people than I have here at Queenzone. Yes, Freddie was amazing in many ways, but he had his flaws, like anyone else. And there were plenty of other singers who were as good as Freddie in many ways, or even better. His voice in concert was AVERAGE a lot of the time. ACCEPT IT. He sang We Are The Champions and Bohemian Rhapsody like the record version once or twice out of 400-500 times. He just couldn't do it live.
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Newcastle 12-4-79. This is definitely Freddie's strongest concert on tape.
The question for me is did Freddie's voice entertain? The answer is yes. Rich whoever they are, is completely missing the point- of course I would not expect those perfect vocals live, I wouldn't want perfect vocals live otherwise we're in MOR Barbara Steisand territory. Now the fact is, some nights it sounded strained but it was still powerful and it was still entertaining.
At Wembley, for example he might have barked rather than sung but in a stadium with 75,000 people I'd take barking any day. That version of WWTLF was fantastic- the way he roared "don't touch my wounds with my finger tips" sounded much more spontaneous live. Yes, We Are the Champs was an effort but he held the final note with power and it was a highly charged perfomance.
I tell you compared with Sting and phil Collins etc his live voice was great- really prominent (unlike Jagger's barely audible croak). I'm not sating he is infallible but it is that vulnerability in his live voice that I enjoy becasue just as it produced difficulties, it also produced the mighty roar on Under pressure at Wembley. So please stop trying to bring down a truly individual live vocalist because you are all completely missing the point.
At Wembley, for example he might have barked rather than sung but in a stadium with 75,000 people I'd take barking any day. That version of WWTLF was fantastic- the way he roared "don't touch my wounds with my finger tips" sounded much more spontaneous live. Yes, We Are the Champs was an effort but he held the final note with power and it was a highly charged perfomance.
I tell you compared with Sting and phil Collins etc his live voice was great- really prominent (unlike Jagger's barely audible croak). I'm not sating he is infallible but it is that vulnerability in his live voice that I enjoy becasue just as it produced difficulties, it also produced the mighty roar on Under pressure at Wembley. So please stop trying to bring down a truly individual live vocalist because you are all completely missing the point.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]maxpower wrote: [/QUOTENAME]I rest my case - what annoys about Queen fans is they think Freddie was untouchable listen to any live Thunder (if you aint got a clue who they are do some research) dvd/cd & you'll notice it is identical to studio version or as close as.. the reason I keep harping on about Danny Bowes is he & Freddie are my two favourite singers with Danny just edging it as far as live perfomances go in terms of singing, nothing else i.e. being able to hold 250000 people in palms of your hands etc..
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I feel the same way about PR.
He's one of those rare vocalists who actually outdo his studio recordings live.
I have heard some Danny Bowes via youtube and I was impressed.
When I first heard him I swore I could pick out some Paul Rodgers influence.
Then I found out the he is indeed a big fan.
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I feel the same way about PR.
He's one of those rare vocalists who actually outdo his studio recordings live.
I have heard some Danny Bowes via youtube and I was impressed.
When I first heard him I swore I could pick out some Paul Rodgers influence.
Then I found out the he is indeed a big fan.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Asterik wrote: [/QUOTENAME]The question for me is did Freddie's voice entertain? The answer is yes. Rich whoever they are, is completely missing the point- of course I would not expect those perfect vocals live, I wouldn't want perfect vocals live otherwise we're in MOR Barbara Steisand territory. Now the fact is, some nights it sounded strained but it was still powerful and it was still entertaining.
At Wembley, for example he might have barked rather than sung but in a stadium with 75,000 people I'd take barking any day. That version of WWTLF was fantastic- the way he roared "don't touch my wounds with my finger tips" sounded much more spontaneous live. Yes, We Are the Champs was an effort but he held the final note with power and it was a highly charged perfomance.
I tell you compared with Sting and phil Collins etc his live voice was great- really prominent (unlike Jagger's barely audible croak). I'm not sating he is infallible but it is that vulnerability in his live voice that I enjoy becasue just as it produced difficulties, it also produced the mighty roar on Under pressure at Wembley. So please stop trying to bring down a truly individual live vocalist because you are all completely missing the point.[/QUOTE] I love his wembly performance. some of my all time favorites are during this show, but I can't get past a few horrible moments like "another one bites the dust" and I want to break free' those are two horrible performaces I usually skip, but the rest I love.
At Wembley, for example he might have barked rather than sung but in a stadium with 75,000 people I'd take barking any day. That version of WWTLF was fantastic- the way he roared "don't touch my wounds with my finger tips" sounded much more spontaneous live. Yes, We Are the Champs was an effort but he held the final note with power and it was a highly charged perfomance.
I tell you compared with Sting and phil Collins etc his live voice was great- really prominent (unlike Jagger's barely audible croak). I'm not sating he is infallible but it is that vulnerability in his live voice that I enjoy becasue just as it produced difficulties, it also produced the mighty roar on Under pressure at Wembley. So please stop trying to bring down a truly individual live vocalist because you are all completely missing the point.[/QUOTE] I love his wembly performance. some of my all time favorites are during this show, but I can't get past a few horrible moments like "another one bites the dust" and I want to break free' those are two horrible performaces I usually skip, but the rest I love.
QUOTE] I love his wembly performance. some of my all time favorites are during this show, but I can't get past a few horrible moments like "another one bites the dust" and I want to break free' those are two horrible performaces I usually skip, but the rest I love. [/QUOTE]
Yes, Break Free never really worked well live. From Fred's lack of movement etc, you always sensed they were going through the motions there, playing it because it was a popular hit. If they had wanted to do a recent hit at Wembley they should have done It's A hard Life instead, which would have enabled us to hear some of Fred's piano work. As for ABTD, well it worked some nights and it didn't on others. I thought the 2nd night rendition was very sharp actually but he struggled a lot on the first night with his breathing.
Yes, Break Free never really worked well live. From Fred's lack of movement etc, you always sensed they were going through the motions there, playing it because it was a popular hit. If they had wanted to do a recent hit at Wembley they should have done It's A hard Life instead, which would have enabled us to hear some of Fred's piano work. As for ABTD, well it worked some nights and it didn't on others. I thought the 2nd night rendition was very sharp actually but he struggled a lot on the first night with his breathing.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Richy Mercury wrote: [/QUOTENAME]SIR GH SAID:
I have never in my life seen more musically closed-minded people than I have here at Queenzone. Yes, Freddie was amazing in many ways, but he had his flaws, like anyone else. And there were plenty of other singers who were as good as Freddie in many ways, or even better. His voice in concert was AVERAGE a lot of the time. ACCEPT IT. He sang We Are The Champions and Bohemian Rhapsody like the record version once or twice out of 400-500 times. He just couldn't do it live.
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Newcastle 12-4-79. This is definitely Freddie's strongest concert on tape.
[/QUOTE]Yes, fantastic show from freddie!! He sings all songs perfectly. Save me, Don't stop me now , '39, Now I'm here, bohemian and Liar are some of my favourite freddie live performances. Greg's book made clear they have recorded some Crazy tour shows and I really hope they release one of these one day. Maybe he was as good during one of these recorded shows as he was in Newcastle.
I'd actually prefer a Cd box with about 4 shows from the seventies over a compilation DVD.I hope we will have both one day:-)
I have never in my life seen more musically closed-minded people than I have here at Queenzone. Yes, Freddie was amazing in many ways, but he had his flaws, like anyone else. And there were plenty of other singers who were as good as Freddie in many ways, or even better. His voice in concert was AVERAGE a lot of the time. ACCEPT IT. He sang We Are The Champions and Bohemian Rhapsody like the record version once or twice out of 400-500 times. He just couldn't do it live.
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When did he do this?[/QUOTE]
Newcastle 12-4-79. This is definitely Freddie's strongest concert on tape.
[/QUOTE]Yes, fantastic show from freddie!! He sings all songs perfectly. Save me, Don't stop me now , '39, Now I'm here, bohemian and Liar are some of my favourite freddie live performances. Greg's book made clear they have recorded some Crazy tour shows and I really hope they release one of these one day. Maybe he was as good during one of these recorded shows as he was in Newcastle.
I'd actually prefer a Cd box with about 4 shows from the seventies over a compilation DVD.I hope we will have both one day:-)
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Sebastian wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Not flawless at all, but certainly a better live singer than Lord Teeth.[/QUOTE]
Lord Teeth huh? Why the hell are you on a Queen site if you want to ridicule Freddie? Could it be you have nothing better to do than beat a dead horse? That's the kinda comment somebody makes when they are losing an argument...Steve Perry?? ha ha...
Lord Teeth huh? Why the hell are you on a Queen site if you want to ridicule Freddie? Could it be you have nothing better to do than beat a dead horse? That's the kinda comment somebody makes when they are losing an argument...Steve Perry?? ha ha...
I don't want to ridicule Queen or any of the members (i.e. Lord Teeth, Dr Wig, Mr Bulldog-Face and The Duke Ostrich). But as said before, this is a discussion forum, not a worship one.