Freddie's languages

miraclesteinway wrote:

...only Kashmira would know - if she knows.

She does, and she answered that question years ago: at home and with their parents, they spoke mostly English and also occasionally Swahili. So there.

Freddie was the type of immigrant who didn't care too much to be associated with his home country and wanted to fully integrate and be considered a native Brit, which he managed to do, and good for him.

miraclesteinway wrote:
I would be surprised if Freddie didn't know at least Tamil or Hindi, or Gujerati, although whether he communicated in these languages regularly only Kashmira would know - if she knows.

Its impossible Freddie would have known Tamil. Its the language spoken in one state in the southern part of the country. And its nowhere near where Freddie was (Mumbai and Panchgani).

Its quite likely he would have known Hindi (would have learnt and communicated with fellow students in Hindi at the boarding school).

Sebastian has stated that Kashmira revealed they spoke English and Swahili at home. But it does not mean he did not speak Hindi at the boarding school in Panchgani.

miraclesteinway wrote:
When he moved to India at age 10 aside from the school , he lived with his grandmother and aunt. I really doubt he spoke to them in english.

Parsis are generally well versed in English too. And they would have known Hindi as well, as they were based in Mumbai. Its quite possible they used either of these languages to converse with Freddie if he did not speak Gujarati.

Some trivia-
Tamil is spoken in the state of Tamil Nad (literally land of the Tamils) and is in South India.

Gujarati is spoken in the state of Gujarat. When the Zoroastrians moved from Persia (largely present-day Iran) to India (due to Islamic persecution) they settled in Gujarat. Over many centuries they adopted the Gujarati language and culture and assimilated into the local population.
Later under British rule when Bombay (Mumbai) was developed into a port, many enterprising Gujaratis (inlcuding Parsis) moved to the city to engage in various related trades like agents, ship builders, merchants, etc. Hence there is a huge Gujarati population in the city of Mumbai as well, even though its not in the state of Gujarat.

brENsKi wrote:

he spent 30 years (or so) in London - does that mean he was fluent in cockney rhyming slang also?

Uncertain, but all indications say that he slang a lot of cock.

Sebastian wrote:

miraclesteinway wrote:

...only Kashmira would know - if she knows.

She does, and she answered that question years ago: at home and with their parents, they spoke mostly English and also occasionally Swahili. So there.

Do you have a source where she said this?

Her mouth.

dysan wrote:

Her mouth.

very witty :)

I think the delivery left too much to interpretation - IE was I actually referring to the mouth literally being the source of those worlds in a slightly surreal comical misunderstanding of your question (I was). Or was I meaning it more aggressively like 'she said it so you don't need a source' (I wasn't). All in all I think a mid-table finish for that gag. I'll hold my hands up and admit I rushed it and didn't really prep well enough to ensure it was a clear attempt at a funny post. It's rather bittersweet for me because sometimes I just like to kick back with my Strat and jam some hot licks while thumbing through here on a sunny day like today, but this has kind of spooked me that I've taken my eye off the ball a few too many times recently with my forum funnies. Thank you for the smiling emoji though, but I won't take it as 'I've been let off the hook' here - I'm going to use it to try to shake me out of this stupor I've fallen into. Sleepwalking through postings and generally taking my own posts on here for granted. It's a splash of water in the face of this hungover bleary eyed poster I've become. It's a wake up call TBH.

mariah carey wrote:

Do you have a source where she said this?

It was a fan club convention where she appeared and she was asked that very question. I seem to remember it was shortly after Jedward became (briefly) popular because one of the questions was about their 'Under Pressure' cover mixed with 'Ice, Ice Baby'. If anyone filmed or recorded the Q&A, there's a 'source' that could potentially be verified, assuming it ever sees the light one day.

Sebastian wrote:

mariah carey wrote:

Do you have a source where she said this?

It was a fan club convention where she appeared and she was asked that very question. I seem to remember it was shortly after Jedward became (briefly) popular because one of the questions was about their 'Under Pressure' cover mixed with 'Ice, Ice Baby'. If anyone filmed or recorded the Q&A, there's a 'source' that could potentially be verified, assuming it ever sees the light one day.

thanks

dysan wrote:

I think the delivery left too much to interpretation - IE was I actually referring to the mouth literally being the source of those worlds in a slightly surreal comical misunderstanding of your question (I was). Or was I meaning it more aggressively like 'she said it so you don't need a source' (I wasn't). All in all I think a mid-table finish for that gag. I'll hold my hands up and admit I rushed it and didn't really prep well enough to ensure it was a clear attempt at a funny post. It's rather bittersweet for me because sometimes I just like to kick back with my Strat and jam some hot licks while thumbing through here on a sunny day like today, but this has kind of spooked me that I've taken my eye off the ball a few too many times recently with my forum funnies. Thank you for the smiling emoji though, but I won't take it as 'I've been let off the hook' here - I'm going to use it to try to shake me out of this stupor I've fallen into. Sleepwalking through postings and generally taking my own posts on here for granted. It's a splash of water in the face of this hungover bleary eyed poster I've become. It's a wake up call TBH.

I won't deny that I didn't chuckle at your comment, so everything is alright :)

Sebastian that was funny. Zoom in, nope! It’s interesting. What’s funnier is that years later you replied with Swahili, but someone else already mentioned it.

Yes, of course: I was wrong initially, and when I found more accurate information I posted it. That's how research works.

Silly boy!