I totally agree with everything in YourValentine's last post - well set out and logical arguments to counter what Greg Brooks said (not just for the sake of it, but factually correct).
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[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Queen Archivist wrote: [/QUOTENAME]John Stuart...
I can have a much more sensible conversation with myself, than I could with a so called archivist.
YOU ARE SOUNDING RESENTFUL AND BITTER. [/QUOTE]
If you followed the gist of the thread, you would see that the tone of my piece was both humourous and ironic.
As I am alive, well, and of fairly sound mind, I am thankful for every day God grants me.
I have too many good things and positive influences in my life to become bitter about anything.
As long as I have my loving wife, family and a fantastic job to surround me, this Queen malarkey is nothing but a passing interest.
I may be an anorak - but I am neither sad nor bitter, and I send you nothing but my best wishes, and hope that someday you may find half the peace of mind or happiness I enjoy.
I can have a much more sensible conversation with myself, than I could with a so called archivist.
YOU ARE SOUNDING RESENTFUL AND BITTER. [/QUOTE]
If you followed the gist of the thread, you would see that the tone of my piece was both humourous and ironic.
As I am alive, well, and of fairly sound mind, I am thankful for every day God grants me.
I have too many good things and positive influences in my life to become bitter about anything.
As long as I have my loving wife, family and a fantastic job to surround me, this Queen malarkey is nothing but a passing interest.
I may be an anorak - but I am neither sad nor bitter, and I send you nothing but my best wishes, and hope that someday you may find half the peace of mind or happiness I enjoy.
Here I go with those Monkees again :)
There is a release on iTunes that contains "ALL" of their 1960-something tour. There are multiple versions of each song (from different dates), and only the most outrageous completist would bother buying every last track (I'll count myself among that number once I find the money :) ).
I think if the FM Box were ever to be released on iTunes, that could be an excuse to add the missing tracks that JSS has talked about. People can pick and choose, listen to samples, and even really helpful savvy people could post reviews about the (sometimes minimal) differences between the versions.
If the 2-disc LOLSOS ever makes it to iTunes or 7digital (they only have the 1-disc), I would immediately cease all criticism of the package, as I would not be forced to spend money on something I already have.
Anyone else of the same mindset, or is iTunes no excuse for an "incomplete" release?
There is a release on iTunes that contains "ALL" of their 1960-something tour. There are multiple versions of each song (from different dates), and only the most outrageous completist would bother buying every last track (I'll count myself among that number once I find the money :) ).
I think if the FM Box were ever to be released on iTunes, that could be an excuse to add the missing tracks that JSS has talked about. People can pick and choose, listen to samples, and even really helpful savvy people could post reviews about the (sometimes minimal) differences between the versions.
If the 2-disc LOLSOS ever makes it to iTunes or 7digital (they only have the 1-disc), I would immediately cease all criticism of the package, as I would not be forced to spend money on something I already have.
Anyone else of the same mindset, or is iTunes no excuse for an "incomplete" release?
Ok, this is the first time I'm taking part of these discussions.
I disagree with you Greg, I'm a die-hard fan and would've wanted it all. I think you're wrong at one point, that it would make it like 18 CD's. If you count the total time on every disc you'll see that there's room. For example you could've put several extended remixes and single versions on the albums. There are approx. 40 minutes left on the three first discs. I haven't counted on it, but I think at worst if you included everything you could have 12 discs.
I'm not disappointed on the box set at all, it's a wonderful release with a wonderful book, but I'm just giving you constructive criticism.
And if you think it would be boring with 10 versions of some songs, there is always a button called 'skip' :-)
I disagree with you Greg, I'm a die-hard fan and would've wanted it all. I think you're wrong at one point, that it would make it like 18 CD's. If you count the total time on every disc you'll see that there's room. For example you could've put several extended remixes and single versions on the albums. There are approx. 40 minutes left on the three first discs. I haven't counted on it, but I think at worst if you included everything you could have 12 discs.
I'm not disappointed on the box set at all, it's a wonderful release with a wonderful book, but I'm just giving you constructive criticism.
And if you think it would be boring with 10 versions of some songs, there is always a button called 'skip' :-)
I say there, John holyier than thou S. Stuart....
You know when you wrote... "As long as I have my loving wife, family and a fantastic job to surround me, this Queen malarky is nothing but a passing interest."
It clearly didn't occur to you that spending HOURS AND HOURS per day, EVERY DAY, of your life on QZ, for God knows how many long years now - over 4,000 threads last time I looked - is definitely vastly more than "a passing interest."
"nothing but a passing interest".... who are you trying to kid?
This site is a massive part of your life, not merely a passing interest. That's why I pick you up on it so often. It's incredible that you'd make out otherwise. Have a word with your silly self.
But, that said, may the God you mention bless you and generally bring you happiness when you are not spending hours and relentless hours on QZ.
"nothing but a passing interest" indeed.... get serious!!!!!!!!
You know when you wrote... "As long as I have my loving wife, family and a fantastic job to surround me, this Queen malarky is nothing but a passing interest."
It clearly didn't occur to you that spending HOURS AND HOURS per day, EVERY DAY, of your life on QZ, for God knows how many long years now - over 4,000 threads last time I looked - is definitely vastly more than "a passing interest."
"nothing but a passing interest".... who are you trying to kid?
This site is a massive part of your life, not merely a passing interest. That's why I pick you up on it so often. It's incredible that you'd make out otherwise. Have a word with your silly self.
But, that said, may the God you mention bless you and generally bring you happiness when you are not spending hours and relentless hours on QZ.
"nothing but a passing interest" indeed.... get serious!!!!!!!!
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Queen Archivist wrote: [/QUOTENAME]I say there, John holyier than thou S. Stuart....
You know when you wrote... "As long as I have my loving wife, family and a fantastic job to surround me, this Queen malarky is nothing but a passing interest."
It clearly didn't occur to you that spending HOURS AND HOURS per day, EVERY DAY, of your life on QZ, for God knows how many long years now - over 4,000 threads last time I looked - is definitely vastly more than "a passing interest."
"nothing but a passing interest".... who are you trying to kid?
This site is a massive part of your life, not merely a passing interest. That's why I pick you up on it so often. It's incredible that you'd make out otherwise. Have a word with your silly self.
But, that said, may the God you mention bless you and generally bring you happiness when you are not spending hours and relentless hours on QZ.
"nothing but a passing interest" indeed.... get serious!!!!!!!![/QUOTE]
Greg: Thank you for the mail.
It is heart-warming to know that you need to take such an obsessional interest in my private life, but, as I alluded to previously, my individual situation and circumstances are very successful, so it is my sincerest hope that I can share my happiness with you at some time.
However, if you took the time to conduct some cursory research, you will have noticed that according to the old Queenzone board, my posts to date are: 3025, and I registered on Wednesday, July 25, 2001.
http://www.queenzone.com/queen/forum/topic_view.asp?Q_FORUM_ID=1&Q_FORUM_NAME=Queen+%2D+Serious+Discussion&Q_FORUM_TOPIC_ID=902327&TOPIC_SUBJECT=The+Freddie+Mercury+Boxed+set+%2D+according+to+John+S%2E+Stuart&page=1
I calculate 365 days per year @ 5 years = 1825 days.
Add to that 6 days in July, 31 days in August, 30 days in September, and 28 days in October (all 2006),
plus allowing for leap years another two additional days,
this equals a grand total of 1922 days in which I have been a registered member of this zone.
If I take the number of my posts (3024),
and divide that by the number of days I have been registered (1922),
you will see that this works out at an average of 1.573 postings.
(Let’s round that figure to 1½ posts per day): hardly the behaviour of an obsessional compulsive, nor as I see it, any of your business as to how I wish to spend my own personal ‘downtime’.
Strangely enough; YOU registered on Thursday, May 25, 2006, and have posted 215 mails during a 156 day period.
This means that you too post on average 1.4 mails per day also.
Methinks the words 'pots' and 'kettles' spring to mind, but, I digress...
Frankly, I now find your tantrums and personal assaults both inconsequential and monotonous; however, I do defend your freedom to continue to do so, even though I fail to understand the motivation or regularity behind your attacks.
I genuinely wish you well in both your chosen career and in the future, and hope that fate is good to you and yours.
PS: If you wish to criticise others for poor literary skills:
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Queen Archivist wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Hey there young-twat-man.... unarmed is one word. No hyphen, you pleb.[/QUOTE]
May I point out that ‘holyier’ is actually spelt ‘HOLIER’ and that the phrase below should actually end with a question mark?
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Queen Archivist wrote: [/QUOTENAME]I say there, John holyier than thou S. Stuart....
You know when you wrote... "As long as I have my loving wife, family and a fantastic job to surround me, this Queen malarky is nothing but a passing interest."[/QUOTE]
You know when you wrote... "As long as I have my loving wife, family and a fantastic job to surround me, this Queen malarky is nothing but a passing interest."
It clearly didn't occur to you that spending HOURS AND HOURS per day, EVERY DAY, of your life on QZ, for God knows how many long years now - over 4,000 threads last time I looked - is definitely vastly more than "a passing interest."
"nothing but a passing interest".... who are you trying to kid?
This site is a massive part of your life, not merely a passing interest. That's why I pick you up on it so often. It's incredible that you'd make out otherwise. Have a word with your silly self.
But, that said, may the God you mention bless you and generally bring you happiness when you are not spending hours and relentless hours on QZ.
"nothing but a passing interest" indeed.... get serious!!!!!!!![/QUOTE]
Greg: Thank you for the mail.
It is heart-warming to know that you need to take such an obsessional interest in my private life, but, as I alluded to previously, my individual situation and circumstances are very successful, so it is my sincerest hope that I can share my happiness with you at some time.
However, if you took the time to conduct some cursory research, you will have noticed that according to the old Queenzone board, my posts to date are: 3025, and I registered on Wednesday, July 25, 2001.
http://www.queenzone.com/queen/forum/topic_view.asp?Q_FORUM_ID=1&Q_FORUM_NAME=Queen+%2D+Serious+Discussion&Q_FORUM_TOPIC_ID=902327&TOPIC_SUBJECT=The+Freddie+Mercury+Boxed+set+%2D+according+to+John+S%2E+Stuart&page=1
I calculate 365 days per year @ 5 years = 1825 days.
Add to that 6 days in July, 31 days in August, 30 days in September, and 28 days in October (all 2006),
plus allowing for leap years another two additional days,
this equals a grand total of 1922 days in which I have been a registered member of this zone.
If I take the number of my posts (3024),
and divide that by the number of days I have been registered (1922),
you will see that this works out at an average of 1.573 postings.
(Let’s round that figure to 1½ posts per day): hardly the behaviour of an obsessional compulsive, nor as I see it, any of your business as to how I wish to spend my own personal ‘downtime’.
Strangely enough; YOU registered on Thursday, May 25, 2006, and have posted 215 mails during a 156 day period.
This means that you too post on average 1.4 mails per day also.
Methinks the words 'pots' and 'kettles' spring to mind, but, I digress...
Frankly, I now find your tantrums and personal assaults both inconsequential and monotonous; however, I do defend your freedom to continue to do so, even though I fail to understand the motivation or regularity behind your attacks.
I genuinely wish you well in both your chosen career and in the future, and hope that fate is good to you and yours.
PS: If you wish to criticise others for poor literary skills:
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Queen Archivist wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Hey there young-twat-man.... unarmed is one word. No hyphen, you pleb.[/QUOTE]
May I point out that ‘holyier’ is actually spelt ‘HOLIER’ and that the phrase below should actually end with a question mark?
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Queen Archivist wrote: [/QUOTENAME]I say there, John holyier than thou S. Stuart....
You know when you wrote... "As long as I have my loving wife, family and a fantastic job to surround me, this Queen malarky is nothing but a passing interest."[/QUOTE]
Greg, if youre all complaining about how JSS wanted so many versions of the same song, then why does the new 2 disc freddie set have 6, count 'em SIX versions of love kills on 2 discs....what may I ask is the POINT! I really am not clear if you had anything to do with the compilation of that set but....SIX!?!?
yah, thats what i thought...
"- a grand total of 6 vomit-inducing versions of Living On My Own"
Were any of them good? That song has been around for 21 years and I still haven't heard a version with instrumentation befitting of the vocal performance :(
Were any of them good? That song has been around for 21 years and I still haven't heard a version with instrumentation befitting of the vocal performance :(
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]ern2150 wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Here I go with those Monkees again :)[/QUOTE]
Don't apologize. Your monkeys are no worse than the monkeys battling it out in this thread.
Don't apologize. Your monkeys are no worse than the monkeys battling it out in this thread.
So when will we see the anticipated release of "Hangman"? Or the re-release of the "We Will Rock You" backing track? ;-)
Am I the only one getting bored of this JSS/GB feces-flinging fun fest?
Greg, I think it would be very mature of you to, instead of argue over this subject, to be constructive and say "Is that true? We missed out on some things? Well, I apologize for it. What do you suggest we do?"
That's what we need: a dialogue, not a demagogue.
Greg, I think it would be very mature of you to, instead of argue over this subject, to be constructive and say "Is that true? We missed out on some things? Well, I apologize for it. What do you suggest we do?"
That's what we need: a dialogue, not a demagogue.
This conversation looks not friendly to me... John, Greg, it is splashing with dirt from both of you. I don't like it...
For Greg: the box is great because the rare material and demos (these demos changed all my life). I agree that many versions of one song is bad idea but why the box doesn't have full version of Ibex concert and Everyone of Us? You really don't have this material in studio quality?...
Thanks
For Greg: the box is great because the rare material and demos (these demos changed all my life). I agree that many versions of one song is bad idea but why the box doesn't have full version of Ibex concert and Everyone of Us? You really don't have this material in studio quality?...
Thanks
the live tapes from Freddie's last performance should have been on there...but if I remember correctly Greg stated somewhere that they only found out about those tracks AFTER the box had been released
if Freddie singing two tracks from phantom of the opera do exists - I want them released tomorrov!!!!! I'm not a big fan og musicals, but when I heard the title track of phantom I immideately though it would have been a good track for freddie to sing
if Freddie singing two tracks from phantom of the opera do exists - I want them released tomorrov!!!!! I'm not a big fan og musicals, but when I heard the title track of phantom I immideately though it would have been a good track for freddie to sing
Seven seas,
>>why the box doesn't have full version of Ibex concert and Everyone of Us? You really don't have this material in studio quality?...
I have to say that I disagree with this. To have something that is low quality sound-wise, just because it's rare doesn;t hold any sway with me.
I am a HUGE Free fan and, having bought the excellent Songs Of Yesterday box set and the album re-masters, I was looking forward to the BBC Sessions release - frankly, it's an embarassment. The live material on disc 2 has been partly-sourced from a fan's recording from the radio and is simply embarassing. I certainly won't be listening to it again.
The great thing about the FM box, for me, was that it was supposed to be an all-encompassing thing of beauty; a thing of beauty it was. All encompassing, it wasn't. I'd have traded in ALL of The Untold Story, the videos, The Instrumentals and the David Wigg Interviews for another 30 minutes of the creative process with Montserrat. but, I don't suppose that would have been everyone's cup of tea. The very early rough stuff was interesting from a novelty point of view but certainly didn;t warrant inclusion completely.
However, the balance could be redressed by making the un-released material available as high quality downloadable files through QueenOnline, couldn't they........? That way, those that want them can have them and pay for them as they wish.......?
>>why the box doesn't have full version of Ibex concert and Everyone of Us? You really don't have this material in studio quality?...
I have to say that I disagree with this. To have something that is low quality sound-wise, just because it's rare doesn;t hold any sway with me.
I am a HUGE Free fan and, having bought the excellent Songs Of Yesterday box set and the album re-masters, I was looking forward to the BBC Sessions release - frankly, it's an embarassment. The live material on disc 2 has been partly-sourced from a fan's recording from the radio and is simply embarassing. I certainly won't be listening to it again.
The great thing about the FM box, for me, was that it was supposed to be an all-encompassing thing of beauty; a thing of beauty it was. All encompassing, it wasn't. I'd have traded in ALL of The Untold Story, the videos, The Instrumentals and the David Wigg Interviews for another 30 minutes of the creative process with Montserrat. but, I don't suppose that would have been everyone's cup of tea. The very early rough stuff was interesting from a novelty point of view but certainly didn;t warrant inclusion completely.
However, the balance could be redressed by making the un-released material available as high quality downloadable files through QueenOnline, couldn't they........? That way, those that want them can have them and pay for them as they wish.......?