Greg -- since you're active in this thread I figured asking here might be ok -- for a while, fans have discussed the source of the text on the BBC We Will Rock You, which allegedly comes from Hesse's novel, <Siddartha>. But the quote doesn't match the text. Maybe it's from an introduction to some edition. No-one has been able to identify the quote. Can you please shed any light on this? Thanks.
Alas, I don't have any rare 'Now I'm Here' footage, but I've heard that a wizard named Tim and his vicious pet rabbit with two sharp pointy teeth guard it...
Thread
Posts in chronological order
7Innuendo7
This is a good question.
I have heard a recording with more of the Siddartha reading on it than was used on the familir session mix which we all know.
I am certain it is a reading from the Hesse book, yes, but perhaps, very likely in fact, it was an adaptation (abridged from the book) for the original Radio 4 broadcast. That would explain why the text you saw might not match with the recording on the Queen session.
When we get back to the Queen at the BBC material - whenever that might be - I will listen to just the Siddhartha part and see what I can find out. I already have a mental note to do this, but I will let you know. Also, anything we do uncover of this story would make it to the sleeve notes anyway.
But... the short answer is that it is definitely that story, an adaptation of it, and it surely must be possible to track down the exact production via a bbc radio 4 route. it cannot be that dificult to find out. I'll speak with my source at the bbc archive.
good question 7i7.
This is a good question.
I have heard a recording with more of the Siddartha reading on it than was used on the familir session mix which we all know.
I am certain it is a reading from the Hesse book, yes, but perhaps, very likely in fact, it was an adaptation (abridged from the book) for the original Radio 4 broadcast. That would explain why the text you saw might not match with the recording on the Queen session.
When we get back to the Queen at the BBC material - whenever that might be - I will listen to just the Siddhartha part and see what I can find out. I already have a mental note to do this, but I will let you know. Also, anything we do uncover of this story would make it to the sleeve notes anyway.
But... the short answer is that it is definitely that story, an adaptation of it, and it surely must be possible to track down the exact production via a bbc radio 4 route. it cannot be that dificult to find out. I'll speak with my source at the bbc archive.
good question 7i7.
To bring two threads together I repost what I wrote in the other thread - and we had the same topic a while ago:
"No, the quote has nothing to do with the novel. In the novel the Buddha is described as a wise man who is quiet, self -content, polite and tolerant. He does not "mock" or "reject" Brahmanism. However, the historical Buddha did deny the existence of Brahman, therefore I believe that the text on the tape is from an essay on Buddhism and has nothing to do with Hesse."
I am unsure what an adaption or abridged version of the novel would be but even the most superficial paraphrasing of the "Buddha scene" in the novel would not match with the text spoken on the WWRY tape. In the novel the Buddha does not even mention Brahmanism. In the novel the Buddha involuntarily helps Siddhartha to realise that wisdom cannot be tought, not even by the enlightened Buddha but wisdom can only be obtained by following our own individual path in life.
"No, the quote has nothing to do with the novel. In the novel the Buddha is described as a wise man who is quiet, self -content, polite and tolerant. He does not "mock" or "reject" Brahmanism. However, the historical Buddha did deny the existence of Brahman, therefore I believe that the text on the tape is from an essay on Buddhism and has nothing to do with Hesse."
I am unsure what an adaption or abridged version of the novel would be but even the most superficial paraphrasing of the "Buddha scene" in the novel would not match with the text spoken on the WWRY tape. In the novel the Buddha does not even mention Brahmanism. In the novel the Buddha involuntarily helps Siddhartha to realise that wisdom cannot be tought, not even by the enlightened Buddha but wisdom can only be obtained by following our own individual path in life.
Thanks Greg and YValentine-- staying tuned :)
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]deleted wrote: [/QUOTENAME]16th January, 1975 Noel Edmonds or 30th January, 1975 Tony Blackburn[/QUOTE]
I've never heard about these... can you tell me more about them?
I've never heard about these... can you tell me more about them?
just a little question for Queen Archivist.
what are you up to on the weekend of 7th of september? and no, i'm not asking you out!
what are you up to on the weekend of 7th of september? and no, i'm not asking you out!
[QUOTE]
[b]Sir GH wrote: [/b]
[QUOTE]
[b]deleted wrote: [/b]
16th January, 1975 Noel Edmonds or 30th January, 1975 Tony Blackburn
[/QUOTE]
I've never heard about these... can you tell me more about them?
[/QUOTE]
Thats two performances in Top of the Pops, known to be lost and deleted in the BBC archive. Strangely before and after those dates every other TOTP show survived in perfect quality.
(Noel Edmonds and Tony Blackburn were the presenters)
[b]Sir GH wrote: [/b]
[QUOTE]
[b]deleted wrote: [/b]
16th January, 1975 Noel Edmonds or 30th January, 1975 Tony Blackburn
[/QUOTE]
I've never heard about these... can you tell me more about them?
[/QUOTE]
Thats two performances in Top of the Pops, known to be lost and deleted in the BBC archive. Strangely before and after those dates every other TOTP show survived in perfect quality.
(Noel Edmonds and Tony Blackburn were the presenters)
Hi GB... 1st. time I ever ask something to you:
Here in Mexico we have a so called Queen Fan Club. This people plain selfish to show in Youtube a 5 seconds clip of the concerts in Puebla and Monterrey, 1981. This clips are VERY rare.
Any chance to see someday ( or hear ) something from those concerts???
Thanks
Here in Mexico we have a so called Queen Fan Club. This people plain selfish to show in Youtube a 5 seconds clip of the concerts in Puebla and Monterrey, 1981. This clips are VERY rare.
Any chance to see someday ( or hear ) something from those concerts???
Thanks
Hey Greg.
I've got some privately shot silent film footage (about 4 minutes) of 7 year old Kim Wilde performing with her Dad on stage in 1967.
Yes, I know it it's not Queen related, but figured there'd be more chance of having this released officially than any rare Queen stuff so, do you want it?
I'm sure we could come to some sort of financial arrangement over this....
I've got some privately shot silent film footage (about 4 minutes) of 7 year old Kim Wilde performing with her Dad on stage in 1967.
Yes, I know it it's not Queen related, but figured there'd be more chance of having this released officially than any rare Queen stuff so, do you want it?
I'm sure we could come to some sort of financial arrangement over this....
Yes, how bloody typical is that...
Er, I was actually replying in relation to the two TOTP episodes around those January dates which actually do survive...
[QUOTE]
[b]brians wig wrote: [/b]
I've got some privately shot silent film footage (about 4 minutes) of 7 year old Kim Wilde performing with her Dad on stage
[/QUOTE]
You old pedophile :-)
Sorry, I couldn't resist :-)
[b]brians wig wrote: [/b]
I've got some privately shot silent film footage (about 4 minutes) of 7 year old Kim Wilde performing with her Dad on stage
[/QUOTE]
You old pedophile :-)
Sorry, I couldn't resist :-)
[QUOTE]
[b]pittrek wrote: [/b]
[QUOTE]
[b]brians wig wrote: [/b]
I've got some privately shot silent film footage (about 4 minutes) of 7 year old Kim Wilde performing with her Dad on stage
[/QUOTE]
You old pedophile :-)
Sorry, I couldn't resist :-)
[/QUOTE]
even worse..... hoarder!!! ;)
[b]pittrek wrote: [/b]
[QUOTE]
[b]brians wig wrote: [/b]
I've got some privately shot silent film footage (about 4 minutes) of 7 year old Kim Wilde performing with her Dad on stage
[/QUOTE]
You old pedophile :-)
Sorry, I couldn't resist :-)
[/QUOTE]
even worse..... hoarder!!! ;)
[QUOTE]
[b]Miklos wrote: [/b]
oh silly boy :)
so which one you lost, 16th January, 1975 Noel Edmonds or 30th January, 1975 Tony Blackburn?
[/QUOTE]
Noel Edmonds and Tony Blackburn performing Now I'm Here?!!! Wow, that must be uber-rare [img=/images/smiley/msn/teeth_smile.gif][/img]
[b]Miklos wrote: [/b]
oh silly boy :)
so which one you lost, 16th January, 1975 Noel Edmonds or 30th January, 1975 Tony Blackburn?
[/QUOTE]
Noel Edmonds and Tony Blackburn performing Now I'm Here?!!! Wow, that must be uber-rare [img=/images/smiley/msn/teeth_smile.gif][/img]