[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Seven_Seas_Of_Rhye II wrote:
It’s shabby. They betray Freddie twice.
Mary didn’t... But even if she could tell much.
I don’t know... I want to believe our lovely Brian, Roger, Mary but sometimes Brian just keeps silence when Freddie is hardly defamed... and QP continues to make money on Freddie’s debauch image.
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In the end they were the ones who have to leave the house where they lived for the past 6 years. Even though Jim and the boys knew Freddie´s desire about this, because he didn´t write it on the testament... they were out!
So, who betrayed Freddie?
Look, i don´t have nothing to do with other peoples lives. It´s their problems.
And Freddie wasn´t that reclusive about his sexual live. He only started to be reclusive when he got AIDS.
He could be seen in the USA gay clubs, and Munich gay clubs in the 80´s flirting with other men. But, fortunatelly for him the papparazzy were more interested in Boy George and George Michael.
I don´t understand why you guys get so upset about his friends writing books about him. He is now dead!- there´s no privacy to be kept private anymore. And there´s no such thing as betray a dead man, honour his name and all the bullshit that people kept inventing to prevent others to do what they feel right.
After Freddie´s dead, his mom asked if he was with make-up because he looked very peacefull. He didn´t have any make up! This alone tells something about the way they treated him in his last days. Even his doctor acknowledged this!
If everyone makes money with him, why not this guys?
Take care
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Gnomo, you are right what I meant. Your English is pretty OK!
Bobby! Of course he went to clubs and it is OK for a normal person. I love clubs. It’s a pleasure to be there to relax with friends and to meet new friends. I just want to say that when you read those books it looks like CLUBS was his sense of life.
I think he was a gay. But after all this his image in 90’s I ask myself it could be wrong really! It could be, friends! Actually I don’t care Freddie was a gay or not. I love him as a man.
Please, who has scans of articles from 70’s-80’s magazines about Freddie where it’s mentioned his homosexuality and his clubs ‘merriment’, please could you send it to me or share.
Bobby! Of course he went to clubs and it is OK for a normal person. I love clubs. It’s a pleasure to be there to relax with friends and to meet new friends. I just want to say that when you read those books it looks like CLUBS was his sense of life.
I think he was a gay. But after all this his image in 90’s I ask myself it could be wrong really! It could be, friends! Actually I don’t care Freddie was a gay or not. I love him as a man.
Please, who has scans of articles from 70’s-80’s magazines about Freddie where it’s mentioned his homosexuality and his clubs ‘merriment’, please could you send it to me or share.
I´ve waited 9 month for your reply ; ))
Take care
Take care
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Queenman!! wrote: [/QUOTENAME]I think it's Joe Fanelli, Dave Clark or Phoebe![/QUOTE]
Or it could be Jim Hutton.
Or the person who now lives in Freddie's house and has access to all that.
Or it could be Jim Hutton.
Or the person who now lives in Freddie's house and has access to all that.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Seven_Seas_Of_Rhye II wrote: [/QUOTENAME]
<<<<<<About Hutton, Freeston - they are liars and $$$ makers. They betray Freddie. Just try to wonder WHO they were when Freddie were alive (I mean for him)?! Now this f**king gardener tries to show himself as a Freddie's close friend (lover!)... We don't have enough facts but maybe Freddie wasn't a homosexual - look at all magazines articles, TV reports that were released before Freddie death and you won't find anything about his homosexuality. All that Hutton-Freeston did and is doing now is under a patronage of QP... Why does Mary, Brian, Roger keep silence for all that dirt?......>>>>>
I DON'T KNOW ABOUT BRIAN AND ROGER. BUT MARY IS ONE OF THE MAIN ONES WHO HELPED SPREAD THE DIRT. MAYBE BRIAN AND ROGER ARE JUST PASSIVE ABOUT IT ALL.
ALSO, HAS IT BEEN PROVEN THAT FREDDIE TOLD ONE PERSON HE HAD AIDS? FROM WHAT I'VE READ HE ONLY TOLD THEM HE WAS SICK AND DYING BUT NEVER MENTIONED AIDS. HE EVEN TOLD HIS SISTER AND HER HUSBAND THAT HE WAS SICK AND DYING, BUT DIDN'T TELL THEM WHAT IT WAS.
IT'S ODD HOW THE STATEMENT SUPPOSEDLY COMING FROM HIM THAT HE HAD AIDS DIDN'T COME UNTIL THE DAY AFTER HE DIED. IS IT POSSIBLE IT WAS RIGGED?
IS IT POSSIBLE THAT MARY OR JIM OR SOMEONE ELSE PUT THAT FALSE STATEMENT TOGETHER AND FREDDIE KNEW NOTHING ABOUT IT? HOW CONVENIENT. WAIT UNTIL THE MAN IS ON HIS DEATHBED THEN ISSUE THE STATEMENT THAT HE HAS AIDS, AND HE IS TOO WEAK AND SICK TO KNOW ABOUT IT. OF COURSE, THEY HAD TO HURRY UP AND DO IT BEFORE HE ACTUALLY DIED TO MAKE IT LOOK LIKE HE SAID IT HIMSELF.
A MAN THAT SICK ADN DYING, WHY WOULD IT BE SO IMPORTANT TO HIM THAT THE WORLD KNEW WHAT HE HAD?
IS IT POSSIBLE TO HAVE SUCH DEEP FEELINGS FOR A PERSON, THEN GO AROUND AND SAY ALL THE PERSONAL THINGS AFTER HE HAS DIED, SUCH AS THIS MARY AUSTIN HAS DONE?
WRITTEN THE THINGS THAT JIM HUTTON WROTE IN HIS BOOK?
NOT FOR ME. MY FFELINGS FOR PEOPLE I CARE ABOUT ARE TOO DEEP TO SAY EVEN ONE OFF-COLORED NEGATIVE OR PRIVATE THING ABOUT THEM TO ANYONE.
ESPECIALLY TOTAL STRANGERS I KNOW WOULD FEED OFF IT!
What actually we find in Hutton-Freeston books - it is a dirty Freddie's life. How could it be that way?!?!... - For a hard-worker man as Freddie was, for whom each year was full of touring and studio recordings... And always Hutton and Freeston is the center of every event!...
Don't kill me people... It is boiled away already... I know that Jim and Peter made themselves big names... So big that it seems some fans will love them soon as much as Freddie...[/QUOTE]
HEY, YOU'RE NOT THE ONLY ONE WHO HAS THOUGHT ABOUT IT.
<<<<<<About Hutton, Freeston - they are liars and $$$ makers. They betray Freddie. Just try to wonder WHO they were when Freddie were alive (I mean for him)?! Now this f**king gardener tries to show himself as a Freddie's close friend (lover!)... We don't have enough facts but maybe Freddie wasn't a homosexual - look at all magazines articles, TV reports that were released before Freddie death and you won't find anything about his homosexuality. All that Hutton-Freeston did and is doing now is under a patronage of QP... Why does Mary, Brian, Roger keep silence for all that dirt?......>>>>>
I DON'T KNOW ABOUT BRIAN AND ROGER. BUT MARY IS ONE OF THE MAIN ONES WHO HELPED SPREAD THE DIRT. MAYBE BRIAN AND ROGER ARE JUST PASSIVE ABOUT IT ALL.
ALSO, HAS IT BEEN PROVEN THAT FREDDIE TOLD ONE PERSON HE HAD AIDS? FROM WHAT I'VE READ HE ONLY TOLD THEM HE WAS SICK AND DYING BUT NEVER MENTIONED AIDS. HE EVEN TOLD HIS SISTER AND HER HUSBAND THAT HE WAS SICK AND DYING, BUT DIDN'T TELL THEM WHAT IT WAS.
IT'S ODD HOW THE STATEMENT SUPPOSEDLY COMING FROM HIM THAT HE HAD AIDS DIDN'T COME UNTIL THE DAY AFTER HE DIED. IS IT POSSIBLE IT WAS RIGGED?
IS IT POSSIBLE THAT MARY OR JIM OR SOMEONE ELSE PUT THAT FALSE STATEMENT TOGETHER AND FREDDIE KNEW NOTHING ABOUT IT? HOW CONVENIENT. WAIT UNTIL THE MAN IS ON HIS DEATHBED THEN ISSUE THE STATEMENT THAT HE HAS AIDS, AND HE IS TOO WEAK AND SICK TO KNOW ABOUT IT. OF COURSE, THEY HAD TO HURRY UP AND DO IT BEFORE HE ACTUALLY DIED TO MAKE IT LOOK LIKE HE SAID IT HIMSELF.
A MAN THAT SICK ADN DYING, WHY WOULD IT BE SO IMPORTANT TO HIM THAT THE WORLD KNEW WHAT HE HAD?
IS IT POSSIBLE TO HAVE SUCH DEEP FEELINGS FOR A PERSON, THEN GO AROUND AND SAY ALL THE PERSONAL THINGS AFTER HE HAS DIED, SUCH AS THIS MARY AUSTIN HAS DONE?
WRITTEN THE THINGS THAT JIM HUTTON WROTE IN HIS BOOK?
NOT FOR ME. MY FFELINGS FOR PEOPLE I CARE ABOUT ARE TOO DEEP TO SAY EVEN ONE OFF-COLORED NEGATIVE OR PRIVATE THING ABOUT THEM TO ANYONE.
ESPECIALLY TOTAL STRANGERS I KNOW WOULD FEED OFF IT!
What actually we find in Hutton-Freeston books - it is a dirty Freddie's life. How could it be that way?!?!... - For a hard-worker man as Freddie was, for whom each year was full of touring and studio recordings... And always Hutton and Freeston is the center of every event!...
Don't kill me people... It is boiled away already... I know that Jim and Peter made themselves big names... So big that it seems some fans will love them soon as much as Freddie...[/QUOTE]
HEY, YOU'RE NOT THE ONLY ONE WHO HAS THOUGHT ABOUT IT.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Seven_Seas_Of_Rhye II wrote: [/QUOTENAME]I'm thinking again...
All that - Freeston & Hutton books - is alarming us very much because it is about our Freddie and IT IS ABOUT THE TRUTH OF HIM. What young men who's just becoming Queen fans will think about Freddie?... They just already have these books and his image of drugs-sex-rock'n'roll-24-hours-a-day...
Peter and Jim didn't have moral rights to write these books because Freddie kept his private life very private. If they were so close friends to him – they must know about it.
But I understand when Hutton or Freeston was going to write a book after Freddie passed because they knew his close and could tell the world the nature of Freddie, of his life, of his music’s creation.
So,
1) They did write even if Freddie didn’t want it.
2) But the main thing they concentrated on is not Freddie but HIS CONDITIONS OF LIFE.
It’s shabby. They betray Freddie twice.
Mary didn’t... But even if she could tell much.
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ACTUALLY THIS WOMAN MARY DIDN'T HAVE TO. AND SHE WATCHED WHILE ALL THIS WAS BEING WRITTEN AND PUBLISHED AND SAID NOTHING AND DID NOTHING.
ANYWAY I CAN'T FIGURE WHY EVERYONE LOVES HER SO MUCH. THIS WOMAN HAS A VERY STRANGE, COLD LOOK IN HER EYES.
All that - Freeston & Hutton books - is alarming us very much because it is about our Freddie and IT IS ABOUT THE TRUTH OF HIM. What young men who's just becoming Queen fans will think about Freddie?... They just already have these books and his image of drugs-sex-rock'n'roll-24-hours-a-day...
Peter and Jim didn't have moral rights to write these books because Freddie kept his private life very private. If they were so close friends to him – they must know about it.
But I understand when Hutton or Freeston was going to write a book after Freddie passed because they knew his close and could tell the world the nature of Freddie, of his life, of his music’s creation.
So,
1) They did write even if Freddie didn’t want it.
2) But the main thing they concentrated on is not Freddie but HIS CONDITIONS OF LIFE.
It’s shabby. They betray Freddie twice.
Mary didn’t... But even if she could tell much.
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ACTUALLY THIS WOMAN MARY DIDN'T HAVE TO. AND SHE WATCHED WHILE ALL THIS WAS BEING WRITTEN AND PUBLISHED AND SAID NOTHING AND DID NOTHING.
ANYWAY I CAN'T FIGURE WHY EVERYONE LOVES HER SO MUCH. THIS WOMAN HAS A VERY STRANGE, COLD LOOK IN HER EYES.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Seven_Seas_Of_Rhye II wrote: [/QUOTENAME]
Please, who has scans of articles from 70’s-80’s magazines about Freddie where it’s mentioned his homosexuality and his clubs ‘merriment’, please could you send it to me or share.[/QUOTE]
Even if you did come across these articles, doesn't mean they are correct. Freddie himself said so...that they falsify things about him all the time.
Even when a supposed interview with him mentions as a sideline that he admits to being gay. It strikes me how Freddie never admits to it in interviews. They just add it as a sideline but it's never part of the actual interview!
Falsification!
Freddie also never contradicted because he stated in interviews that he thinks the whole "bisexual" image is fun, and to let them think what they want. He doesn't contradict it, but this is NOT the same as admitting to it.
And as far as people seeing him in gay clubs and such.....it is odd how the paparazzi were never there to catch it. This "information" comes from his so called friends. It could very well be all fabrications. If a person were willing to dig deep enough into the sources of this "information".....who knows maybe you would find there isn't any real proof.
Please, who has scans of articles from 70’s-80’s magazines about Freddie where it’s mentioned his homosexuality and his clubs ‘merriment’, please could you send it to me or share.[/QUOTE]
Even if you did come across these articles, doesn't mean they are correct. Freddie himself said so...that they falsify things about him all the time.
Even when a supposed interview with him mentions as a sideline that he admits to being gay. It strikes me how Freddie never admits to it in interviews. They just add it as a sideline but it's never part of the actual interview!
Falsification!
Freddie also never contradicted because he stated in interviews that he thinks the whole "bisexual" image is fun, and to let them think what they want. He doesn't contradict it, but this is NOT the same as admitting to it.
And as far as people seeing him in gay clubs and such.....it is odd how the paparazzi were never there to catch it. This "information" comes from his so called friends. It could very well be all fabrications. If a person were willing to dig deep enough into the sources of this "information".....who knows maybe you would find there isn't any real proof.