Really funny, Ian :) That reminds me how I thought as a child that "Savoy Truffle" by The Beatles has no vocals because the vocal track was not played by my cheap mono turntable I used to have when I was a child.
"YV, I briefly had a UK ADATR with the end of YTMBA as part of Long Away but I consider the track marker things to be a different kind of 'error' :) "
I agree. While a pause is just a technical mishap the wrong cutting of songs is due to human ignorance. How anyone could think that this is the correct track is beyond me:)
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[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Ian R wrote: [/QUOTENAME]The track markers on 'Queen Rocks' are all over the bloody place; a right pain in the arse if, like me, you happen to listen to CDs on the 'Random' or 'Shuffle' setting.[/QUOTE]
Weird. Is that the 2nd release? I bought it on the day it came out and I don't have any track errors, just the FBG click error.
Adam.
Weird. Is that the 2nd release? I bought it on the day it came out and I don't have any track errors, just the FBG click error.
Adam.
Yeah, about the Rocks thing.. never had a problem with my U.S. version, though the tracks are close together.. basically crossfading if you listen close, save for one pause before NOBY, so perhaps if they're slightly off, this can be a problem when programming it.
And another sample for the My Fairy King thing.. I didn't think earlier to compare the 1998 'Crown Jewels' version so here it is..
http://rapidshare.com/files/7529527/MyFairyKing_sample_CJ98.mp3
Again, like the 2001/2004 remaster, I don't hear a problem here as I do with the Hollywood version.
I'm guessing it was a defect on earlier master copies which was somehow corrected prior to or during the 1998 and 2001 remasterings.
And another sample for the My Fairy King thing.. I didn't think earlier to compare the 1998 'Crown Jewels' version so here it is..
http://rapidshare.com/files/7529527/MyFairyKing_sample_CJ98.mp3
Again, like the 2001/2004 remaster, I don't hear a problem here as I do with the Hollywood version.
I'm guessing it was a defect on earlier master copies which was somehow corrected prior to or during the 1998 and 2001 remasterings.
Yeah, your clips show that it's a real problem. I had always noticed the sound change, but thought it was just on the tapes. Never imagined it was an error. Oh well, guess I'll replace my copy. Mind you, I'm not sure I'll get the 2004 one with all that extra low-end on the drums. It's quite boomy on those drums. Is the error also present on the UK 1993/4 remaster? Anyone?
Adam.
Adam.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]YourValentine wrote:
I agree. While a pause is just a technical mishap the wrong cutting of songs is due to human ignorance. How anyone could think that this is the correct track is beyond me:)[/QUOTE]
I first bought ADATR on vinyl and believe it or not i thought that the ending of "Take My Breath..." was the begining of "Long Away" ;))
I mean, this ending starts almost 7 or 8 seconds after the last piano piece, Who would think that this was the last part of the song?
I think this was made deliberatly, because if you listen carefully that ending is suposed to say "You Take my breath away" over and over again, but due to some parts being overlaped on other parts, you hear the word Away better than the others. Let´s just say that i allways view this as an interlude between those two songs with the word Away.
Í feel more happy now that i know there were more people who thought like me ; )
Take care
I agree. While a pause is just a technical mishap the wrong cutting of songs is due to human ignorance. How anyone could think that this is the correct track is beyond me:)[/QUOTE]
I first bought ADATR on vinyl and believe it or not i thought that the ending of "Take My Breath..." was the begining of "Long Away" ;))
I mean, this ending starts almost 7 or 8 seconds after the last piano piece, Who would think that this was the last part of the song?
I think this was made deliberatly, because if you listen carefully that ending is suposed to say "You Take my breath away" over and over again, but due to some parts being overlaped on other parts, you hear the word Away better than the others. Let´s just say that i allways view this as an interlude between those two songs with the word Away.
Í feel more happy now that i know there were more people who thought like me ; )
Take care
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Generalissimo Bubbles wrote:
I'm guessing it was a defect on earlier master copies which was somehow corrected prior to or during the 1998 and 2001 remasterings.[/QUOTE]
I´m having the same impression!
I think the difference is that they have mixed the drum tracks in a different manner adding more texture and guiving it the sense of a full sound.
The bad version has a weacker sound throughout the song. Now, my confusion is that i can´t clearly say wich track is off during that 3 seconds sound change. At first impression it looks like that the drum track, but when i hear it more carefully i realise that the guitar track doing the feedback noises -wich add ambience to the song- is almost completely off during that period. Whoever spotted this error really have a good ear!
Take care
I'm guessing it was a defect on earlier master copies which was somehow corrected prior to or during the 1998 and 2001 remasterings.[/QUOTE]
I´m having the same impression!
I think the difference is that they have mixed the drum tracks in a different manner adding more texture and guiving it the sense of a full sound.
The bad version has a weacker sound throughout the song. Now, my confusion is that i can´t clearly say wich track is off during that 3 seconds sound change. At first impression it looks like that the drum track, but when i hear it more carefully i realise that the guitar track doing the feedback noises -wich add ambience to the song- is almost completely off during that period. Whoever spotted this error really have a good ear!
Take care
Bobby, the error on that track is NOT the guitar part. When you listen, you'll hear the guitar sounds clear throughout the crash point. It is the drums (overheads anyone?) that seem less clear at that crash point in comparison to the 1998+2004 remasters. AND... the sound is not weaker throughout the song on ANY of the remasters. You're just hearing the effects of the 2004 remastering which has upped low and high end as well as more compression.
Adam.
Adam.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Adam Baboolal wrote: [/QUOTENAME]AND... the sound is not weaker throughout the song on ANY of the remasters. You're just hearing the effects of the 2004 remastering which has upped low and high end as well as more compression.
Adam.[/QUOTE]
You´re right, but weacker was just the best word i could find to express the difference in sound. I´m from Portugal, and sometimes it´s really hard to express myself in a way that i know people understand. In my view those effects made the drum sound superior, even if they´re only effects ; )
Take care
Adam.[/QUOTE]
You´re right, but weacker was just the best word i could find to express the difference in sound. I´m from Portugal, and sometimes it´s really hard to express myself in a way that i know people understand. In my view those effects made the drum sound superior, even if they´re only effects ; )
Take care
I thought I'd mention another release to watch out for. After the 2004 release of the karaoke CD remasters and DVD in Japan, a Korean version appeared combining the CDs and DVD in one package.. which may or may not be truly official.
I bought one of these early on and it was some sort of promotional pack with a Queen shirt included.. I only mention this in case the stand-alone digipack turned out different later, but..
My CDs from this version have some problems. The last couple tracks on disc 1 are missing the first bit of their intros, and on disc 2 nearly all of the track markers are off.. way off.
When I finally got the original Japanese remaster this year these errors are of course not present, and the sound quality seems slightly better too. So you might want to avoid the Korean set. It seems like a good deal, but beware it probably has these defects.
Here it is, listed at Amazon and CD Universe:
http://www.amazon.com/Greatest-Hits-Karaoke/dp/B00064OONY/sr=8-1/qid=1166219743/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/002-5111794-5100839?ie=UTF8&s=music
http://www.cduniverse.com/productinfo.asp?pid=6793808&BAB=E
My advice is buy the original Japanese versions separately instead :)
I bought one of these early on and it was some sort of promotional pack with a Queen shirt included.. I only mention this in case the stand-alone digipack turned out different later, but..
My CDs from this version have some problems. The last couple tracks on disc 1 are missing the first bit of their intros, and on disc 2 nearly all of the track markers are off.. way off.
When I finally got the original Japanese remaster this year these errors are of course not present, and the sound quality seems slightly better too. So you might want to avoid the Korean set. It seems like a good deal, but beware it probably has these defects.
Here it is, listed at Amazon and CD Universe:
http://www.amazon.com/Greatest-Hits-Karaoke/dp/B00064OONY/sr=8-1/qid=1166219743/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/002-5111794-5100839?ie=UTF8&s=music
http://www.cduniverse.com/productinfo.asp?pid=6793808&BAB=E
My advice is buy the original Japanese versions separately instead :)
I agree that the track-marker is another type of error.. But about that. I can't remember which release, maybe it's the 1994 remasters of Queen II. Anyway.. the end of The March of The Black Queen and the beginning of Funny How Love Is are totally mixed together, and it sounds very wrong (if you skip to number 10).
...anyway, great to see so much interesting views on the the different versions of the albums!
...anyway, great to see so much interesting views on the the different versions of the albums!
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]ITSM wrote: [/QUOTENAME]I agree that the track-marker is another type of error.. But about that. I can't remember which release, maybe it's the 1994 remasters of Queen II. Anyway.. the end of The March of The Black Queen and the beginning of Funny How Love Is are totally mixed together, and it sounds very wrong (if you skip to number 10).
...anyway, great to see so much interesting views on the the different versions of the albums![/QUOTE]
Those tracks are supposed to be mixed together like that :) As with other tracks on that album, they are crossfaded. There is a stand-alone b-side single version of Funny How Love Is with a clean "ahh-less" intro. On CD I believe its only appearance was a Japanese 3" singles set. Other versions just use the album version, faded in and such.
...anyway, great to see so much interesting views on the the different versions of the albums![/QUOTE]
Those tracks are supposed to be mixed together like that :) As with other tracks on that album, they are crossfaded. There is a stand-alone b-side single version of Funny How Love Is with a clean "ahh-less" intro. On CD I believe its only appearance was a Japanese 3" singles set. Other versions just use the album version, faded in and such.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Generalissimo Bubbles wrote: There is a stand-alone b-side single version of Funny How Love Is with a clean "ahh-less" intro. On CD I believe its only appearance was a Japanese 3" singles set. Other versions just use the album version, faded in and such.[/QUOTE]
Now that you mention this song, i think that this song starts to fade out very early!
I know that´s the way they wanted it, but i never understood why.
Is there any version with an alternative ending, or every ending is the same?
Take care
Now that you mention this song, i think that this song starts to fade out very early!
I know that´s the way they wanted it, but i never understood why.
Is there any version with an alternative ending, or every ending is the same?
Take care
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Generalissimo Bubbles wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE]
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Those tracks are supposed to be mixed together like that :) As with other tracks on that album, they are crossfaded. There is a stand-alone b-side single version of Funny How Love Is with a clean "ahh-less" intro. On CD I believe its only appearance was a Japanese 3" singles set. Other versions just use the album version, faded in and such.[/QUOTE]
I didn't mean the sound or anything, I just meant it's a different length on The MarchOTBQ on different CD-releases.. So if you push play on nr 10 FunnyHLI, the song starts in different places on different CD's.. Not a huge problem, though...
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Those tracks are supposed to be mixed together like that :) As with other tracks on that album, they are crossfaded. There is a stand-alone b-side single version of Funny How Love Is with a clean "ahh-less" intro. On CD I believe its only appearance was a Japanese 3" singles set. Other versions just use the album version, faded in and such.[/QUOTE]
I didn't mean the sound or anything, I just meant it's a different length on The MarchOTBQ on different CD-releases.. So if you push play on nr 10 FunnyHLI, the song starts in different places on different CD's.. Not a huge problem, though...
No pause at 3.35 in Back Chat on my 1994 UK remaster cd.
I'm pretty sure they stop there Live At The Bowl too