I just thought I'd pose this question for the AIDS experts out there. To help curious fans understand. I'll start off with the lil' I know.
There are people who had HIV in their system in the mid 70's who are still alive today. Their blood was tested afterwards from the Hep B trials and were alerted in the mid 80's. I remember reading a story about one such patient, I can't find the link it was on my old computer. But he soecifically stated he never used any drugs. Be it prescription drugs or illegal drugs.
There's a lot of people who believe that the use of drugs rapidly causes HIV to become AIDS.The vast majority of HIV positive patients who never become AIDS status say they've never used drugs and many never went on AIDS drugs. If you think about it street drug use or prescription drug use probably covers atleast 98% of AIDS related deaths.
You still have to account for the people, I believe the number is around 300, who never developed AIDS. These are people who have been HIV positive for 15-20 yrs or more. Again most of them fit the same profile of not using the drugs. Any AIDS experts have any info shooting down that theory? It seems to make sense to me.
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there`s a forum, where you can ask the experts what you want to know sbout AIDS or HIV
www.thebody.com
it`s very usefull
you cant use it for any thing, it`s a forum where people who have the illnes ask about his treatment
so be very carefull on what you ask
but i think this forum is not to talk about HIV or AIDS
it`s a Queen related forum
so, lets try to talk about it and not about AIDS
www.thebody.com
it`s very usefull
you cant use it for any thing, it`s a forum where people who have the illnes ask about his treatment
so be very carefull on what you ask
but i think this forum is not to talk about HIV or AIDS
it`s a Queen related forum
so, lets try to talk about it and not about AIDS
Indeed. Let's talk about the music.
omg i luv Freddie
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]KingMercury wrote: [/QUOTENAME]there`s a forum, where you can ask the experts what you want to know sbout AIDS or HIV
www.thebody.com
it`s very usefull
you cant use it for any thing, it`s a forum where people who have the illnes ask about his treatment
so be very carefull on what you ask
but i think this forum is not to talk about HIV or AIDS
it`s a Queen related forum
so, lets try to talk about it and not about AIDS[/QUOTE]
Like it or not AIDS is a relevant topic when discussing Queen/Freddie. After all it is what lead to Freddie's death and played a role in songs written at the time.
As for the topic, there are different strains of HIV including some newer strains which are more lethal than other strains.
www.thebody.com
it`s very usefull
you cant use it for any thing, it`s a forum where people who have the illnes ask about his treatment
so be very carefull on what you ask
but i think this forum is not to talk about HIV or AIDS
it`s a Queen related forum
so, lets try to talk about it and not about AIDS[/QUOTE]
Like it or not AIDS is a relevant topic when discussing Queen/Freddie. After all it is what lead to Freddie's death and played a role in songs written at the time.
As for the topic, there are different strains of HIV including some newer strains which are more lethal than other strains.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]teleman wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]KingMercury wrote: [/QUOTENAME]there`s a forum, where you can ask the experts what you want to know sbout AIDS or HIV
www.thebody.com
it`s very usefull
you cant use it for any thing, it`s a forum where people who have the illnes ask about his treatment
so be very carefull on what you ask
but i think this forum is not to talk about HIV or AIDS
it`s a Queen related forum
so, lets try to talk about it and not about AIDS[/QUOTE]
Like it or not AIDS is a relevant topic when discussing Queen/Freddie. After all it is what lead to Freddie's death and played a role in songs written at the time.
As for the topic, there are different strains of HIV including some newer strains which are more lethal than other strains.[/QUOTE]
its not a relevant topic!!!!
i listen to queen music, and (like most of people) i`m not interested in "when did freddie get the illness" or "why jim is still alive and freddie not"
please people
if you think AIDS is a relevant topic talking about Queen, you`re sick and you`re morbid
please let freddie rest in peace, and please enjoy his legacy, i mean, his music
www.thebody.com
it`s very usefull
you cant use it for any thing, it`s a forum where people who have the illnes ask about his treatment
so be very carefull on what you ask
but i think this forum is not to talk about HIV or AIDS
it`s a Queen related forum
so, lets try to talk about it and not about AIDS[/QUOTE]
Like it or not AIDS is a relevant topic when discussing Queen/Freddie. After all it is what lead to Freddie's death and played a role in songs written at the time.
As for the topic, there are different strains of HIV including some newer strains which are more lethal than other strains.[/QUOTE]
its not a relevant topic!!!!
i listen to queen music, and (like most of people) i`m not interested in "when did freddie get the illness" or "why jim is still alive and freddie not"
please people
if you think AIDS is a relevant topic talking about Queen, you`re sick and you`re morbid
please let freddie rest in peace, and please enjoy his legacy, i mean, his music
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]KingMercury wrote: [/QUOTENAME]
if you think AIDS is a relevant topic talking about Queen, you`re sick and you`re morbid
please let freddie rest in peace, and please enjoy his legacy, i mean, his music[/QUOTE]
If AIDS and the death of Freddie played a role in songs written at the time then it is relevant to a discussion of Queen.
I don't give a fuck about how Freddie caught HIV/AIDS(it's pretty obvious) but I do care about the music and AIDS did play a role in the music from the last part of Freddie's life.
KingMercury, if you think I'm sick and morbid because I think AIDS is relevant to a discussion on Queen then I suggest you're a small minded idiot.
if you think AIDS is a relevant topic talking about Queen, you`re sick and you`re morbid
please let freddie rest in peace, and please enjoy his legacy, i mean, his music[/QUOTE]
If AIDS and the death of Freddie played a role in songs written at the time then it is relevant to a discussion of Queen.
I don't give a fuck about how Freddie caught HIV/AIDS(it's pretty obvious) but I do care about the music and AIDS did play a role in the music from the last part of Freddie's life.
KingMercury, if you think I'm sick and morbid because I think AIDS is relevant to a discussion on Queen then I suggest you're a small minded idiot.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]teleman wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]KingMercury wrote: [/QUOTENAME]
if you think AIDS is a relevant topic talking about Queen, you`re sick and you`re morbid
please let freddie rest in peace, and please enjoy his legacy, i mean, his music[/QUOTE]
If AIDS and the death of Freddie played a role in songs written at the time then it is relevant to a discussion of Queen.
I don't give a fuck about how Freddie caught HIV/AIDS(it's pretty obvious) but I do care about the music and AIDS did play a role in the music from the last part of Freddie's life.
KingMercury, if you think I'm sick and morbid because I think AIDS is relevant to a discussion on Queen then I suggest you're a small minded idiot.[/QUOTE]no need to abuse him by calling him an idiot...i support your theory by the way, THIS IS THE PLACE where we must spread the words about AIdS because FREDDIE died of AiDS! And yes, some of his songs are inspired by illness... sad but true!
if you think AIDS is a relevant topic talking about Queen, you`re sick and you`re morbid
please let freddie rest in peace, and please enjoy his legacy, i mean, his music[/QUOTE]
If AIDS and the death of Freddie played a role in songs written at the time then it is relevant to a discussion of Queen.
I don't give a fuck about how Freddie caught HIV/AIDS(it's pretty obvious) but I do care about the music and AIDS did play a role in the music from the last part of Freddie's life.
KingMercury, if you think I'm sick and morbid because I think AIDS is relevant to a discussion on Queen then I suggest you're a small minded idiot.[/QUOTE]no need to abuse him by calling him an idiot...i support your theory by the way, THIS IS THE PLACE where we must spread the words about AIdS because FREDDIE died of AiDS! And yes, some of his songs are inspired by illness... sad but true!
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]KingMercury wrote: [/QUOTENAME]
its not a relevant topic!!!!
[/QUOTE]
70% of the topics on this forum are not relevant but i didn´t see you complain there
its not a relevant topic!!!!
[/QUOTE]
70% of the topics on this forum are not relevant but i didn´t see you complain there
oh good a medical forum, Can someone help with this coldsore I've got, it's a right bugger had it for a week now
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]kdj2hot wrote: [/QUOTENAME]I just thought I'd pose this question for the AIDS experts out there. To help curious fans understand. I'll start off with the lil' I know.
There are people who had HIV in their system in the mid 70's who are still alive today. Their blood was tested afterwards from the Hep B trials and were alerted in the mid 80's. I remember reading a story about one such patient, I can't find the link it was on my old computer. But he soecifically stated he never used any drugs. Be it prescription drugs or illegal drugs.
There's a lot of people who believe that the use of drugs rapidly causes HIV to become AIDS.The vast majority of HIV positive patients who never become AIDS status say they've never used drugs and many never went on AIDS drugs. If you think about it street drug use or prescription drug use probably covers atleast 98% of AIDS related deaths.
You still have to account for the people, I believe the number is around 300, who never developed AIDS. These are people who have been HIV positive for 15-20 yrs or more. Again most of them fit the same profile of not using the drugs. Any AIDS experts have any info shooting down that theory? It seems to make sense to me.[/QUOTE]
Let see... What I know from AIDS is you can be HIV infected for years before HIV become AIDS. I think in Freddie's situation there has been a short time overlapping each other. Freddie could be HIV positive since 1985 and got AIDS in 1987.
Jim H. got HIV in 1985 and maybe in the year 1994 he still didn't had AIDS. I believe in 1994 came the first kind of decent medicine to prevent a person who's got HIV falling into the final state, still no cure, AIDS
So Jim was very lucky in a way you can say....
Please, the last time topics about AIDS and so on.. Let's talk about music!!!!!!!!!!!
There are people who had HIV in their system in the mid 70's who are still alive today. Their blood was tested afterwards from the Hep B trials and were alerted in the mid 80's. I remember reading a story about one such patient, I can't find the link it was on my old computer. But he soecifically stated he never used any drugs. Be it prescription drugs or illegal drugs.
There's a lot of people who believe that the use of drugs rapidly causes HIV to become AIDS.The vast majority of HIV positive patients who never become AIDS status say they've never used drugs and many never went on AIDS drugs. If you think about it street drug use or prescription drug use probably covers atleast 98% of AIDS related deaths.
You still have to account for the people, I believe the number is around 300, who never developed AIDS. These are people who have been HIV positive for 15-20 yrs or more. Again most of them fit the same profile of not using the drugs. Any AIDS experts have any info shooting down that theory? It seems to make sense to me.[/QUOTE]
Let see... What I know from AIDS is you can be HIV infected for years before HIV become AIDS. I think in Freddie's situation there has been a short time overlapping each other. Freddie could be HIV positive since 1985 and got AIDS in 1987.
Jim H. got HIV in 1985 and maybe in the year 1994 he still didn't had AIDS. I believe in 1994 came the first kind of decent medicine to prevent a person who's got HIV falling into the final state, still no cure, AIDS
So Jim was very lucky in a way you can say....
Please, the last time topics about AIDS and so on.. Let's talk about music!!!!!!!!!!!
isn't there a gene that can stop you from getting full blown AID's...omega something...heard i somewhere. also the gene that stopped some people dying of the plague...i don't know, will have to look it up now
Excuse me, I didnt mean to offend anyone. Sorry.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]jeffuk49 wrote: [/QUOTENAME]oh good a medical forum, Can someone help with this coldsore I've got, it's a right bugger had it for a week now[/QUOTE]
Just find someone who doesn't have one and rub your face against theirs. Yours should clear up in a week or so.
Just find someone who doesn't have one and rub your face against theirs. Yours should clear up in a week or so.
the reason why Freddie was killed so swiftly is because he was diagonsied with AIDs and not HIV. He had most likely had HIV for a great number of years before it turned into AIDs. But because he didn't have HIV when he discovered he was ill he couldn't have had the medication to prevent it from progressing into AIDs even if that was a couple of years. In modern days it can now be sustained for up to 20 years.
I don't know if drugs increses the speed of HIV developing into AIDs but I don't think it does.
I don't know if drugs increses the speed of HIV developing into AIDs but I don't think it does.