Hello everybody!
Just thought it would be interesting to compare both KISS and Queen concerts. After all, I think it is fair to say they're both the greatest stadium rockers.
I look forward to everybodies opinions and or facts.
Steve
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I don't have much to share other than to say I noticed the new KISS DVD set apparently includes 4 complete concerts, including Houston 1977 at the Summit.. same venue Queen played that year.
Assuming it's a decent release, I find it very sad that Queen Productions aren't doing similar releases.. imagine a 4 concert set with say, Rainbow, Earl's Hyde, Court Park and Houston. Maybe even Hammy. One show from each year 1974-1977 as the first DVD set.
Assuming it's a decent release, I find it very sad that Queen Productions aren't doing similar releases.. imagine a 4 concert set with say, Rainbow, Earl's Hyde, Court Park and Houston. Maybe even Hammy. One show from each year 1974-1977 as the first DVD set.
KISS concerts are FULL... FULL of overdubs... and practically the whole KISS live albums are overdubs... the only way that you can compare is listening to some bootleg...
Queen were better live... because they not only put a hell of a show, but also have great musical perfomances... I think KISS only have a great visual show but not a great music show... Queen were awesome in both aspects.
Cheers!
P.
Queen were better live... because they not only put a hell of a show, but also have great musical perfomances... I think KISS only have a great visual show but not a great music show... Queen were awesome in both aspects.
Cheers!
P.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]masterstroke_84 wrote: [/QUOTENAME]KISS concerts are FULL... FULL of overdubs... and practically the whole KISS live albums are overdubs... the only way that you can compare is listening to some bootleg...
Queen were better live... because they not only put a hell of a show, but also have great musical perfomances... I think KISS only have a great visual show but not a great music show... Queen were awesome in both aspects.
Cheers!
P.
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you clearly have not listened to Live Killers
Queen were better live... because they not only put a hell of a show, but also have great musical perfomances... I think KISS only have a great visual show but not a great music show... Queen were awesome in both aspects.
Cheers!
P.
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you clearly have not listened to Live Killers
Yes I Do... but comparing to KISS records... LK is less full of overdubs... I have 4 or 5 boots of ´79 and the overdubs of LK are very tinny... in the case of Alive 3 and 4... those records were mostky recorded in the studio more than in a gig :S...
You didn´t get the point...
P.
You didn´t get the point...
P.
*mostly
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]masterstroke_84 wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Yes I Do... but comparing to KISS records... LK is less full of overdubs... I have 4 or 5 boots of ´79 and the overdubs of LK are very tinny... in the case of Alive 3 and 4... those records were mostky recorded in the studio more than in a gig :S...
You didn´t get the point...
P.
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you need to make fairer comparisons...LK was 79...and it was full of overdubds...queen even admit as much...and "rcorded from over 50 shows" when there were only 23 tracks on the album kinda implies stacks of overdubs
as for kss...the fairer comparison is a live album from the same time period...ie - Alive II
...whicxh had the same number fo overdubs as LK...btu sounded better...as a "live album" it sounded better - had better atmos and didn't sound empty
You didn´t get the point...
P.
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you need to make fairer comparisons...LK was 79...and it was full of overdubds...queen even admit as much...and "rcorded from over 50 shows" when there were only 23 tracks on the album kinda implies stacks of overdubs
as for kss...the fairer comparison is a live album from the same time period...ie - Alive II
...whicxh had the same number fo overdubs as LK...btu sounded better...as a "live album" it sounded better - had better atmos and didn't sound empty
I saw Kiss live on 2004 and loved their show. The music's quality is not BoRhap or MOTBQ quality because most songs are simple rockers without many pretensions. The visuals, pyrotechnics and stunts were GREAT!
Come on, 3 out of 4 band members "flew" during the show. Gene Simmons makes a 20 meters jump after his bass solo using a crane and a wire (which you don't notice when he gets it) and then performs Detroit Rock City from a tiny stage up near the roof. Paul Stanley hops into a metal step connected to a horizontal wire which takes him flying over the audience and into a small sub stage between the audience to perform I was made for loving you. The drummer (I believe it was Eric Singer) rises with his drumset over a platform with fire below it resembling a rocket lifting off.
I saw Queen and Paul Rodgers in 2005 and 2006 and I was still amazed by their show. The LIGHTS were MUCH BETTER than Kiss'. There was ZERO pyrotechnics or stunts but that was never Queen's style.
Queen's catalog is full of GREAT songs, most of them very melodic, some of them more complex than the average Kiss song (from what I've heard) and better. Queen are better musician's, although they had many mistakes during their 2005 tour. 2006 was another story. San Diego 2006 was miles better than any other show I've ever been to.
On the "talent" level, Rodgers' voice is much better than Simmons' or Stanley's (let's not EVEN compare them with Freddie, all right?). Brian's guitar playing is WAAAAY better than Stanley or Thayer (whatever their new guitarist's name is).
Queen's show depends almost entirely on the performer's quality (which is huge). I think Kiss can have a shitty performance and you'd still enjoy their concert because of the stunts and pyrotechnics. Still, I prefer Queen any day of the week, hehe :).
Sorry for the long post.
See ya,
Wiley
Come on, 3 out of 4 band members "flew" during the show. Gene Simmons makes a 20 meters jump after his bass solo using a crane and a wire (which you don't notice when he gets it) and then performs Detroit Rock City from a tiny stage up near the roof. Paul Stanley hops into a metal step connected to a horizontal wire which takes him flying over the audience and into a small sub stage between the audience to perform I was made for loving you. The drummer (I believe it was Eric Singer) rises with his drumset over a platform with fire below it resembling a rocket lifting off.
I saw Queen and Paul Rodgers in 2005 and 2006 and I was still amazed by their show. The LIGHTS were MUCH BETTER than Kiss'. There was ZERO pyrotechnics or stunts but that was never Queen's style.
Queen's catalog is full of GREAT songs, most of them very melodic, some of them more complex than the average Kiss song (from what I've heard) and better. Queen are better musician's, although they had many mistakes during their 2005 tour. 2006 was another story. San Diego 2006 was miles better than any other show I've ever been to.
On the "talent" level, Rodgers' voice is much better than Simmons' or Stanley's (let's not EVEN compare them with Freddie, all right?). Brian's guitar playing is WAAAAY better than Stanley or Thayer (whatever their new guitarist's name is).
Queen's show depends almost entirely on the performer's quality (which is huge). I think Kiss can have a shitty performance and you'd still enjoy their concert because of the stunts and pyrotechnics. Still, I prefer Queen any day of the week, hehe :).
Sorry for the long post.
See ya,
Wiley
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]masterstroke_84 wrote: [/QUOTENAME]KISS concerts are FULL... FULL of overdubs...[/QUOTE]
How the hell do you overdub a live concert?
You're really talking out of your ass.
As far as the original question goes ...
There's KISS in concert, then there's everyone else. Queen, visually, was good. KISS wrote the book on the concert experience.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]masterstroke_84 wrote: [/QUOTENAME]and practically the whole KISS live albums are overdubs... the only way that you can compare is listening to some bootleg...[/QUOTE]
Queen "Live Killers" was all cut and paste. There are lines from one city intermixed with lines from other cities in a single track. If you listen carefully you can hear where the edits are.
KISS released Instant Live recordings from almost all of the shows on their "Rock The Nation" tour in 2004. I received my copy 20 minutes after the concert finished. No overdubs, just a great concert souvenir.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]masterstroke_84 wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Queen were better live... because they not only put a hell of a show, but also have great musical perfomances... I think KISS only have a great visual show but not a great music show... Queen were awesome in both aspects.
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Sounds like you've never attended a KISS concert.
Listen to Queen's Hyde Park show. Freddie was terrible.
How the hell do you overdub a live concert?
You're really talking out of your ass.
As far as the original question goes ...
There's KISS in concert, then there's everyone else. Queen, visually, was good. KISS wrote the book on the concert experience.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]masterstroke_84 wrote: [/QUOTENAME]and practically the whole KISS live albums are overdubs... the only way that you can compare is listening to some bootleg...[/QUOTE]
Queen "Live Killers" was all cut and paste. There are lines from one city intermixed with lines from other cities in a single track. If you listen carefully you can hear where the edits are.
KISS released Instant Live recordings from almost all of the shows on their "Rock The Nation" tour in 2004. I received my copy 20 minutes after the concert finished. No overdubs, just a great concert souvenir.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]masterstroke_84 wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Queen were better live... because they not only put a hell of a show, but also have great musical perfomances... I think KISS only have a great visual show but not a great music show... Queen were awesome in both aspects.
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Sounds like you've never attended a KISS concert.
Listen to Queen's Hyde Park show. Freddie was terrible.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]masterstroke_84 wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Yes I Do... but comparing to KISS records... LK is less full of overdubs... I have 4 or 5 boots of ´79 and the overdubs of LK are very tinny... in the case of Alive 3 and 4... those records were mostky recorded in the studio more than in a gig :S...
You didn´t get the point...
P.
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Again, talking out of your ass.
I have a bootleg of "Alive IV - KISS Symphony". The only overdub was Gene's vocals on "Great Expectations", because it didn't come out great. That was the first and only time they've played that song live.
You didn´t get the point...
P.
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Again, talking out of your ass.
I have a bootleg of "Alive IV - KISS Symphony". The only overdub was Gene's vocals on "Great Expectations", because it didn't come out great. That was the first and only time they've played that song live.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<font color=#FFFFFF>The Invisible Man wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Hello everybody!
Just thought it would be interesting to compare both KISS and Queen concerts. After all, I think it is fair to say they're both the greatest stadium rockers.
I look forward to everybodies opinions and or facts.
Steve[/QUOTE]
AC/DC, The Stones and even Metallica could be considered...if you take your "these are my favourite bands so let's just talk about them" blinkers off.
Just thought it would be interesting to compare both KISS and Queen concerts. After all, I think it is fair to say they're both the greatest stadium rockers.
I look forward to everybodies opinions and or facts.
Steve[/QUOTE]
AC/DC, The Stones and even Metallica could be considered...if you take your "these are my favourite bands so let's just talk about them" blinkers off.
Kiss were/are the most overated band in rock history even their "destroyer" claimed as their best is shit, the 1st track detroit rock city is shit & it just gets worse for me Aerosmith kick their ass in ref to american rock banks starting out in 1970's.
I just cant handle that bollocks at all, these days im listening to more punk than ever, only today bought the Clash's singles box set lovely presentation
I just cant handle that bollocks at all, these days im listening to more punk than ever, only today bought the Clash's singles box set lovely presentation
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Penetration_Guru wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<font color=#FFFFFF>The Invisible Man wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Hello everybody!
Just thought it would be interesting to compare both KISS and Queen concerts. After all, I think it is fair to say they're both the greatest stadium rockers.
I look forward to everybodies opinions and or facts.
Steve[/QUOTE]
AC/DC, The Stones and even Metallica could be considered...if you take your "these are my favourite bands so let's just talk about them" blinkers off.[/QUOTE]
Oh! It's you again! Well, just so you know AC/DC, The Stones, and even Metallica are among my favorite bands. In fact, I love Metallica just as much as I love Queen believe it or not. I have a great understanding for music and I am fascinated by all different types. I've been composing my own music for about four years now, I study music theory and music history at my school, I'm in the choir, I'm in a concert band, a jazz band, I'm also first chair in Full Orchestra, and I'm quite active in my own record collecting. So as you can see I know a little bit about music and it's important figures. So next time, don't insinuate that just because I mentioned KISS means their one of my favorite bands. The reason why I mentioned such a band is because they are indeed one of the greatest stadium rock bands. It's not an opinion, it's a fact. If you don't agree, well then that's just to damn bad.
I thought even you would understand the relevance of this topic. Instead you must be an ass about it. Don't give me another sly remark or you'll just be degrading yourself here on Queenzone...again. Instead, let us communicate peacefully without all this nonsense.
Peace out.
Steve
Just thought it would be interesting to compare both KISS and Queen concerts. After all, I think it is fair to say they're both the greatest stadium rockers.
I look forward to everybodies opinions and or facts.
Steve[/QUOTE]
AC/DC, The Stones and even Metallica could be considered...if you take your "these are my favourite bands so let's just talk about them" blinkers off.[/QUOTE]
Oh! It's you again! Well, just so you know AC/DC, The Stones, and even Metallica are among my favorite bands. In fact, I love Metallica just as much as I love Queen believe it or not. I have a great understanding for music and I am fascinated by all different types. I've been composing my own music for about four years now, I study music theory and music history at my school, I'm in the choir, I'm in a concert band, a jazz band, I'm also first chair in Full Orchestra, and I'm quite active in my own record collecting. So as you can see I know a little bit about music and it's important figures. So next time, don't insinuate that just because I mentioned KISS means their one of my favorite bands. The reason why I mentioned such a band is because they are indeed one of the greatest stadium rock bands. It's not an opinion, it's a fact. If you don't agree, well then that's just to damn bad.
I thought even you would understand the relevance of this topic. Instead you must be an ass about it. Don't give me another sly remark or you'll just be degrading yourself here on Queenzone...again. Instead, let us communicate peacefully without all this nonsense.
Peace out.
Steve
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]maxpower wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Kiss were/are the most overated band in rock history even their "destroyer" claimed as their best is shit, the 1st track detroit rock city is shit & it just gets worse for me Aerosmith kick their ass in ref to american rock banks starting out in 1970's.[/QUOTE]
Aeroshit blows.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]maxpower wrote: [/QUOTENAME]
I just cant handle that bollocks at all, these days im listening to more punk than ever, only today bought the Clash's singles box set lovely presentation[/QUOTE]
Figures. Punk == talentless fashion posers.
Aeroshit blows.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]maxpower wrote: [/QUOTENAME]
I just cant handle that bollocks at all, these days im listening to more punk than ever, only today bought the Clash's singles box set lovely presentation[/QUOTE]
Figures. Punk == talentless fashion posers.
seems like no-one can have an opinion because individuals like jpf insult you...
maybe I´m wrong... but you have to learn not to insult every person who have a different opinion...
Bye.
maybe I´m wrong... but you have to learn not to insult every person who have a different opinion...
Bye.