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What about me beeotch???
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Lisser wrote: [/QUOTENAME]What about me beeotch???[/QUOTE]
Guilt forbids me from acknowledging your presence, at least until I get your work done first.
I'm a bad, bad person, I know.
Guilt forbids me from acknowledging your presence, at least until I get your work done first.
I'm a bad, bad person, I know.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Zeni wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Lisser wrote: [/QUOTENAME]What about me beeotch???[/QUOTE]
Guilt forbids me from acknowledging your presence, at least until I get your work done first.
I'm a bad, bad person, I know. [/QUOTE]
LOL, well you don't have to proof read it anymore bc the deadline is January 18th and I already submitted it. But if you still want to look it over and got any suggestions in general, I'd love to hear them. That's really what I wanted, your opinon.
I'll let you know if I got the grant...$10,000!!!!
Guilt forbids me from acknowledging your presence, at least until I get your work done first.
I'm a bad, bad person, I know. [/QUOTE]
LOL, well you don't have to proof read it anymore bc the deadline is January 18th and I already submitted it. But if you still want to look it over and got any suggestions in general, I'd love to hear them. That's really what I wanted, your opinon.
I'll let you know if I got the grant...$10,000!!!!
In order to be at least somewhat convincing in a debate, one must respond to the strongest argumenters, not the weakest. It's funny how often Zeni's posts are left unresponded to, and how someone in particular may have went at length to fall into Microwave's giant ad hominem trap by extensively responding to it.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<b><font color=666600>Music Man wrote: [/QUOTENAME]In order to be at least somewhat convincing in a debate, one must respond to the strongest argumenters, not the weakest. It's funny how often Zeni's posts are left unresponded to, and how someone in particular may have went at length to fall into Microwave's giant ad hominem trap by extensively responding to it.[/QUOTE]
There is nothing to respond to; a scholar of Japanese culture who I happen to be friends with disagrees with Zeni as to the foreign policy debate;
As far as the 'Revisionist' theory I present: yes, that is true. However, Zeni's slant that 'more current' studies disprove it, is quite incomplete: SOME indeed do. SOME do not. I happen to find the ones that don't disprove it more convincing, as they are fully in accorance with the facts.
I feel no need to debate with Zeni, as what she presents is a highly selective reading of historic publications. She indeed has scholars on her side; as do I. However, I do not agree with her views on what is good historical research, apparently. Sadly for her, my professors do agree with mine, as I haven't failed a single research paper yet.
There is nothing to respond to; a scholar of Japanese culture who I happen to be friends with disagrees with Zeni as to the foreign policy debate;
As far as the 'Revisionist' theory I present: yes, that is true. However, Zeni's slant that 'more current' studies disprove it, is quite incomplete: SOME indeed do. SOME do not. I happen to find the ones that don't disprove it more convincing, as they are fully in accorance with the facts.
I feel no need to debate with Zeni, as what she presents is a highly selective reading of historic publications. She indeed has scholars on her side; as do I. However, I do not agree with her views on what is good historical research, apparently. Sadly for her, my professors do agree with mine, as I haven't failed a single research paper yet.
I wish I could meet your professors Thomas as I have yet to find anybody that agrees with your warped view of world history.
You seem intent on blaming America for every problem in the world. After living here for several years it is clear to me that your opinion of Americans is severely scewded.
You seem intent on blaming America for every problem in the world. After living here for several years it is clear to me that your opinion of Americans is severely scewded.
Keep in fact that some college professors are into far left wing brainwashing (not all of them), and that's pretty much in every country in the world.
However, here in America there are college professors who have been accused of being communists and even acused of encouraging anarchy among students from ultra conservatives groups for the simple fact that they strongly disagree with the far right. Most college professors I know lean to the left but remain moderate and respect their students ideas even though they might differ.
So how do you spot a far left brainwashing college professor from a moderate? The radical leftist teaches conspiracy theories as actual facts.
However, here in America there are college professors who have been accused of being communists and even acused of encouraging anarchy among students from ultra conservatives groups for the simple fact that they strongly disagree with the far right. Most college professors I know lean to the left but remain moderate and respect their students ideas even though they might differ.
So how do you spot a far left brainwashing college professor from a moderate? The radical leftist teaches conspiracy theories as actual facts.
"You seem intent on blaming America for every problem in the world."
Thats too simple though! The fact is, we owe our problems to every 'civilised' nation in the first half of the 20th century. It happened first at the end of WWI when they screwed the Arabs out of a good deal, and then it happened again at the end of WWII when they went and handed Israel over without any real thought as to the fuss it would cause.
Thats too simple though! The fact is, we owe our problems to every 'civilised' nation in the first half of the 20th century. It happened first at the end of WWI when they screwed the Arabs out of a good deal, and then it happened again at the end of WWII when they went and handed Israel over without any real thought as to the fuss it would cause.
Caspar writes:
"However, I do not agree with her views on what is good historical research, apparently. Sadly for her, my professors do agree with mine, as I haven't failed a single research paper yet."
*sigh*
I rarely feel the need to state my academic or professional credentials for QZ, nor will I begin now. It sounds too pretentious and most QZers wouldn't care anyways. All I will say, in my defense, is that I am qualified to teach a university course on post-Meiji Japan and that my years of training have given me more opportunity to do "good historical research" than Caspar. I'm glad he's doing well, and the fact that he has yet to flunk a paper must say something.
One last point for interested third party readers:
I have done my best to point out historical facts likes dates, places, and people in order to make my argument more convincing. That is, after all, good historical research - verifiable facts as the foundation of an argument. Caspar, however, has not; instead he debates me with phrases like "there's nothing to respond to" or "a friend of mine disagrees." I wish he would bring in more facts because this would be a much more interesting, educating, and enjoyable thread for everyone.
In the end, I will let others decide who they choose to believe and let the chips fall where they may.
"However, I do not agree with her views on what is good historical research, apparently. Sadly for her, my professors do agree with mine, as I haven't failed a single research paper yet."
*sigh*
I rarely feel the need to state my academic or professional credentials for QZ, nor will I begin now. It sounds too pretentious and most QZers wouldn't care anyways. All I will say, in my defense, is that I am qualified to teach a university course on post-Meiji Japan and that my years of training have given me more opportunity to do "good historical research" than Caspar. I'm glad he's doing well, and the fact that he has yet to flunk a paper must say something.
One last point for interested third party readers:
I have done my best to point out historical facts likes dates, places, and people in order to make my argument more convincing. That is, after all, good historical research - verifiable facts as the foundation of an argument. Caspar, however, has not; instead he debates me with phrases like "there's nothing to respond to" or "a friend of mine disagrees." I wish he would bring in more facts because this would be a much more interesting, educating, and enjoyable thread for everyone.
In the end, I will let others decide who they choose to believe and let the chips fall where they may.
For what its worth Zeni, and I won't pretend to speak for every QZer, bc I am not. But you have nothing to prove to me. Even if I didn't already personally know your professional career and background, I always enjoy your posts, your wisdom, and all that you add to the board no matter what the content. It is more than evident to me that you are very educated and accurate in what you say.
Even though you are still a butt munch!!!!
Even though you are still a butt munch!!!!
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]PieterMC wrote: [/QUOTENAME]I wish I could meet your professors Thomas as I have yet to find anybody that agrees with your warped view of world history.[/QUOTE]
Go right ahead. Cleveringaplein 1, Leiden. That's off the Rapenburg.
[QUOTE]You seem intent on blaming America for every problem in the world. After living here for several years it is clear to me that your opinion of Americans is severely scewded. [/QUOTE]
It is clear to ME that you cannot read; I blame your GOVERNMENT, not your people. Are you too daft or just UNWILLING to see that?
Go right ahead. Cleveringaplein 1, Leiden. That's off the Rapenburg.
[QUOTE]You seem intent on blaming America for every problem in the world. After living here for several years it is clear to me that your opinion of Americans is severely scewded. [/QUOTE]
It is clear to ME that you cannot read; I blame your GOVERNMENT, not your people. Are you too daft or just UNWILLING to see that?
I find it interesting that you reply to me Thomas but totally ignore Zeni's post. I think that says it all.
Once, a bunch of guys met in a private club, dressed up as Native Americans, and performed a "terrorist raid" on a British ship and tossed bales of tea into Boston Harbor. Fact or conspiracy theory?
what about the USS Maine (1896?) or USS Pueblo (Vietnam era)? And of course the original Gulf War, where Hussein actually asked the US for permission 7/24/90 to invade Kuwait before actually doing so. History also has shown that members of Pres. Lincoln's cabinet approved of his execution so a puppet for the Jim Crow Reconstruction could be installed.
Example of a bad conspiracy theory: the moon landings were fake. Answer: 836 lbs soil samples taken by NASA!
When you run with the same group of people as your father, and his father, and so will your son, it is likely that methodology will remain the same as well. Now that's imho; but experience seems to bear it out.
I don't think there's enough info to clearly say 9/11 was staged at this point, but there are some examples of physical evidence at Ground Zero that do raise the question -- esp because building #7 was not hit by a plane, but had the same characteristic heat damage at its foundation. At any rate, the voices of the families and survivors are more interesting or necessary to understand the cultural meaning of 9/11 for America.
The failure to find WMD in Iraq or place Osama Bin Laden in US custody thus far also weakens the credibility of the official version for the justification of the 'war on terror.' Although Bush comes from a family deeply involved in the military intelligence community, it does not seem to be delivering worthwhile results.
what about the USS Maine (1896?) or USS Pueblo (Vietnam era)? And of course the original Gulf War, where Hussein actually asked the US for permission 7/24/90 to invade Kuwait before actually doing so. History also has shown that members of Pres. Lincoln's cabinet approved of his execution so a puppet for the Jim Crow Reconstruction could be installed.
Example of a bad conspiracy theory: the moon landings were fake. Answer: 836 lbs soil samples taken by NASA!
When you run with the same group of people as your father, and his father, and so will your son, it is likely that methodology will remain the same as well. Now that's imho; but experience seems to bear it out.
I don't think there's enough info to clearly say 9/11 was staged at this point, but there are some examples of physical evidence at Ground Zero that do raise the question -- esp because building #7 was not hit by a plane, but had the same characteristic heat damage at its foundation. At any rate, the voices of the families and survivors are more interesting or necessary to understand the cultural meaning of 9/11 for America.
The failure to find WMD in Iraq or place Osama Bin Laden in US custody thus far also weakens the credibility of the official version for the justification of the 'war on terror.' Although Bush comes from a family deeply involved in the military intelligence community, it does not seem to be delivering worthwhile results.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]PieterMC wrote: [/QUOTENAME]I find it interesting that you reply to me Thomas but totally ignore Zeni's post. I think that says it all.[/QUOTE]
If you'd have read my post right before that one, you'd have seen I responded to that one. Not to good at reading?
If you'd have read my post right before that one, you'd have seen I responded to that one. Not to good at reading?