Did anybody see Keith Olbermann last night?
Basically he had a segment where he talked about 24 basically being propaganda for the Bush administration. I frankly find his comments absurd and I am no fan of Bush.
Here are parts of what he said:
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_011607/content/rush_on_24.Par.0002.ImageFile.jpg
"It's a familiar tactic for grabbing and holding the public's attention, beloved by both the Bush administration and, just as another example, Fox News Channel. Step 1: Fear, and if step 1 does not work, Step 2: More fear. In our fourth story on the Countdown, it is also evidently how the producers of the Fox series "24" plan to keep viewers during the show's sixth year, as evidenced by the first 30 seconds of the season premiere:
[Video of Islamic militants blowing up various trains and buses on the show "24"]
If that wasn't enough to scare or outrage you, the rest of the four-hour, two-night show featured a mall attack, a would-be suicide bomber on the subway and a successful suicide bombing on a passenger bus — not in places where these things have already happened, but in a country called the United States of America.
In case you missed the point, the show finished up with a nuclear weapon detonating in a major American city, literally conjuring up the administration's imagery for the war in Iraq: the good old mushroom cloud."
"Is 24 propaganda? Is it fear mongering? Or is it a program-length commercial for one political party?"
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Keith Olbermann is a kook, plain and simple.
His takes on things are laughable, such as this.
His takes on things are laughable, such as this.
I just wonder why they are bashing it now.
It's not the first time there have been Islamic terrorists on the show.
It's not the first nuke on the show, although the other one did get set off in the desert.
It's not the first time that torture has been on the show.
Here is the video of him bashing the show:
http://www.olbermann.org/ko/video_detail.cfm?id=2104
It's not the first time there have been Islamic terrorists on the show.
It's not the first nuke on the show, although the other one did get set off in the desert.
It's not the first time that torture has been on the show.
Here is the video of him bashing the show:
http://www.olbermann.org/ko/video_detail.cfm?id=2104
Any chance folks like Olbermann can get to "make a name" for himself, he is gonna take it.
Generally, he gets his name by his outrageous comments about the Bush administration.
I would like to think that even a leftist like TQ, an ardent a Bush hater as one would ever find, would find KO's take to be absurd at best.
A publicity stunt, to get ratings, as Keith has about 5 people per night watching his show as it is.
Generally, he gets his name by his outrageous comments about the Bush administration.
I would like to think that even a leftist like TQ, an ardent a Bush hater as one would ever find, would find KO's take to be absurd at best.
A publicity stunt, to get ratings, as Keith has about 5 people per night watching his show as it is.
After reading comments on the 24 message board there are plently of liberals on there that think KO comments were stupid.
Calling for it to be taken off the air is just plain stupid.
Calling for it to be taken off the air is just plain stupid.
It should be noted, when Pieter asked why this criticism is cropping up now, that Joel Surnow, producer of 24, is also producing for Fox a "conservative-themed" or "right-leaning" alternative to The Daily Show. It appears that Surnow made his biases better known.
Also, for the sake of being honest, I was a bit put off during the first 24 episode when the family protects their Muslim neighbor from a pair of jerks and, as the episode reveals, the neighbor is really a terrorist conspirator. I mean, think about it for a second, but what is the underlying message to that - Don't even bother helping others, they're just bad people anyhoo?
Just my opinion. I gave up watching 24 after I learned what happened to Jack and that he likes the taste of Man Neck. Can't devote that much time to watching TV this spring.
Also, for the sake of being honest, I was a bit put off during the first 24 episode when the family protects their Muslim neighbor from a pair of jerks and, as the episode reveals, the neighbor is really a terrorist conspirator. I mean, think about it for a second, but what is the underlying message to that - Don't even bother helping others, they're just bad people anyhoo?
Just my opinion. I gave up watching 24 after I learned what happened to Jack and that he likes the taste of Man Neck. Can't devote that much time to watching TV this spring.
Maybe I'm just stupid....
But, do people really have to find an underlying message in everything?
24 is an entertaining TV show, nothing more, nothing less. It's not a political vehicle, it's not a race relation vehicle, it is simply a TV show.
But, do people really have to find an underlying message in everything?
24 is an entertaining TV show, nothing more, nothing less. It's not a political vehicle, it's not a race relation vehicle, it is simply a TV show.
That's certainly how I see it anyway. Just a show.
However I can also see that some people will treat it as more than that.
I don't think it matters what political views the maker of 24 has. There are plenty of liberal film / tv producers. Everybody has some sort of political standpoint.
I just find KO calls for it to be taken off the air to be crazy. If he does not like it then he does not have to watch it.
However I can also see that some people will treat it as more than that.
I don't think it matters what political views the maker of 24 has. There are plenty of liberal film / tv producers. Everybody has some sort of political standpoint.
I just find KO calls for it to be taken off the air to be crazy. If he does not like it then he does not have to watch it.
C'mon, Haystacks, surely you realize that popular culture shows like 24 can have a positive or negative effect on people's perceptions of real world problems. For instance, it's been in the news many times lately of how difficult prosecuting attorneys have it when potential jurors demand CSI-like evidence in criminal trials.
Honestly, I am neither a fan nor a hater of 24. I haven't watched it regularly in a couple years mainly out of time committments (that and the whole Jack has a heroin habit from a couple years back - talk about overdoing it). To say I'm looking for an underlying message or that I have my political radar out when I watch the show is a stretch.
Honestly, I am neither a fan nor a hater of 24. I haven't watched it regularly in a couple years mainly out of time committments (that and the whole Jack has a heroin habit from a couple years back - talk about overdoing it). To say I'm looking for an underlying message or that I have my political radar out when I watch the show is a stretch.
And to be clear - I just posted my reaction to a scene from the show. It's not a political statement or political critique of 24, just my opinion.
And I have never seen Harold and Kumar go to White Castle, either (or whatever the title was).
And I have never seen Harold and Kumar go to White Castle, either (or whatever the title was).
Perhaps if they had just got that guy some White Castle cheeseburgers he would have not held the family hostage.
Kiefer Sutherlands comments on Season 6:
“The one thing - the show is political. It’s not that the show has not been political but I think last season it became political, because people observing it drew a political angle from it. I remember Joel Surnow, the writer, saying it’s really quite amazing to have the right kind of adopt the show the way they have and then have the left, Barbra Streisand and so many people on the left adopt the show for themselves as well. And that it’s managed to run this kind of mutual political ground while having very strong political aspirations within the context of the show. This year, there’s a couple statements that are very political. They are on purpose from the writers and I think they chose to address a really interesting situation in our society.”
“The one thing - the show is political. It’s not that the show has not been political but I think last season it became political, because people observing it drew a political angle from it. I remember Joel Surnow, the writer, saying it’s really quite amazing to have the right kind of adopt the show the way they have and then have the left, Barbra Streisand and so many people on the left adopt the show for themselves as well. And that it’s managed to run this kind of mutual political ground while having very strong political aspirations within the context of the show. This year, there’s a couple statements that are very political. They are on purpose from the writers and I think they chose to address a really interesting situation in our society.”
Sure, I can see where some folks would take the premise that the show presents and run with it, one way or the other...
Personally, I find it a bit silly. It's a prime time TV show. Everything that is done in the show is done to maximize ratings, period.
Why anyone would take it to the absurd point that Olbermann does is beyond me. Of course, nothing that buffoon does should surprise anyone. He, too, is in it solely for the ratings, and if by making the asinine comments that he did gains him a few new far left audience members, then his rant did what he meant it to do.
Personally, I find it a bit silly. It's a prime time TV show. Everything that is done in the show is done to maximize ratings, period.
Why anyone would take it to the absurd point that Olbermann does is beyond me. Of course, nothing that buffoon does should surprise anyone. He, too, is in it solely for the ratings, and if by making the asinine comments that he did gains him a few new far left audience members, then his rant did what he meant it to do.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]PieterMC wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Perhaps if they had just got that guy some White Castle cheeseburgers he would have not held the family hostage.[/QUOTE]
Haha! xD Can I PRETTY PLEASE quote that??
My brother was having a hard time watching because he couldn't get White Castle out of his head.
Haha! xD Can I PRETTY PLEASE quote that??
My brother was having a hard time watching because he couldn't get White Castle out of his head.