[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]CharlieG wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME].*.Messenger Of Leah.*. wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Freddie is angry.
And I haven't bought anything to do with Paul Rodgers.[/QUOTE]
Actually, Freddie is dead. . . And the prognosis is that he'll remain that way for the foreseeable future.
I'm sure everyone is crushed that you won't buy anything to do with Paul. Even if all the "rabid" Queen "fans" boycotted the new record, that would barely dent the sales. [/QUOTE]
Rabid Queen Fans?
Concert ticket sales or album sales? Hahaha. I doubt the studio album RoBr+Paul Rodgers are coming out with won't make the top 50 albums in the US.
I've been a fan of Queen for a long time, I collect almost everything they've done. I don't collect anything with Paul on it because it's not QUEEN.
Are you sure your buddy PJ isn't slapping you around while wearing a fat guy suit and fake tatoos.
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[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]AmeriQueen wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Personally I don't care about Axl's choice to use the name, I just think it's ridiculous, but not all that harmful. Most know it's not the original band, and if they didn't, they'd be getting Axl's irreplaceable voice and a live show containing many of the old GNR songs, so it's not too dishonest. But what's ridiculous to me is that even if the new GNR is better, it's totally different people supporting Axl. How much is lost by replacing the non Axl elements?
This always varies in this situation in how much the band changes. For instance, when Def Leppard lost Pete Willis and replaced him with Phl Collen, the change was minor. They went from Willis's loud, wild guitar input to Collen's cleaner, more produced sound with tighter, more intertwined guitar flashes and solos. The change was subtle, and I think for the best. However, when they went to Vivian Campbell after Steve Clark died, the band lost everything greatest about them. They still had Eliott's amazing voice, but the #1 standout element of Def Leppard for me was their powerful guitar riffs which were all Steve Clark. VC is awesome, but he couldn't come close to replacing Clark's endless ability to create little riffs and sound bytes throughout their songs. So are they really Def Leppard?
My only complaint on this topic is that using the original name for a new party is compromising a unique band identity for commercial gain by capitalizing on falsely connecting the new group in people's minds with the old group they know. The only good argument for using the old name is in action of advertising the old band's accomplishments and songs will be revisited by the new, similar entity.
I'd say Queen's decision to include the Queen name with a + reference leading to the replacement vocalist, is by far the best, most clever way to go. They cover all ends honorably and wisely, and most of all I like how even that little bit of difference in adding to the Queen name, somehow even with Queen in it, it comes across as a seperate entity. I think of Q + PR as a new band.
[/QUOTE] you make some stupid posts. Queen+ paul could be found in the "Queen" section of the music store. Meaning it's officially a queen record. Don't be fooled by that silly "+" sign.
This always varies in this situation in how much the band changes. For instance, when Def Leppard lost Pete Willis and replaced him with Phl Collen, the change was minor. They went from Willis's loud, wild guitar input to Collen's cleaner, more produced sound with tighter, more intertwined guitar flashes and solos. The change was subtle, and I think for the best. However, when they went to Vivian Campbell after Steve Clark died, the band lost everything greatest about them. They still had Eliott's amazing voice, but the #1 standout element of Def Leppard for me was their powerful guitar riffs which were all Steve Clark. VC is awesome, but he couldn't come close to replacing Clark's endless ability to create little riffs and sound bytes throughout their songs. So are they really Def Leppard?
My only complaint on this topic is that using the original name for a new party is compromising a unique band identity for commercial gain by capitalizing on falsely connecting the new group in people's minds with the old group they know. The only good argument for using the old name is in action of advertising the old band's accomplishments and songs will be revisited by the new, similar entity.
I'd say Queen's decision to include the Queen name with a + reference leading to the replacement vocalist, is by far the best, most clever way to go. They cover all ends honorably and wisely, and most of all I like how even that little bit of difference in adding to the Queen name, somehow even with Queen in it, it comes across as a seperate entity. I think of Q + PR as a new band.
[/QUOTE] you make some stupid posts. Queen+ paul could be found in the "Queen" section of the music store. Meaning it's officially a queen record. Don't be fooled by that silly "+" sign.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME].*.Messenger Of Leah.*. wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]CharlieG wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME].*.Messenger Of Leah.*. wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Freddie is angry.
And I haven't bought anything to do with Paul Rodgers.[/QUOTE]
Actually, Freddie is dead. . . And the prognosis is that he'll remain that way for the foreseeable future.
I'm sure everyone is crushed that you won't buy anything to do with Paul. Even if all the "rabid" Queen "fans" boycotted the new record, that would barely dent the sales. [/QUOTE]
Rabid Queen Fans?
Concert ticket sales or album sales? Hahaha. I doubt the studio album RoBr+Paul Rodgers are coming out with won't make the top 50 albums in the US.
I've been a fan of Queen for a long time, I collect almost everything they've done. I don't collect anything with Paul on it because it's not QUEEN.
Are you sure your buddy PJ isn't slapping you around while wearing a fat guy suit and fake tatoos.[/QUOTE]
Too bad you're such a closed-minded reactionary. I'd hoped you had a brain.
And I haven't bought anything to do with Paul Rodgers.[/QUOTE]
Actually, Freddie is dead. . . And the prognosis is that he'll remain that way for the foreseeable future.
I'm sure everyone is crushed that you won't buy anything to do with Paul. Even if all the "rabid" Queen "fans" boycotted the new record, that would barely dent the sales. [/QUOTE]
Rabid Queen Fans?
Concert ticket sales or album sales? Hahaha. I doubt the studio album RoBr+Paul Rodgers are coming out with won't make the top 50 albums in the US.
I've been a fan of Queen for a long time, I collect almost everything they've done. I don't collect anything with Paul on it because it's not QUEEN.
Are you sure your buddy PJ isn't slapping you around while wearing a fat guy suit and fake tatoos.[/QUOTE]
Too bad you're such a closed-minded reactionary. I'd hoped you had a brain.
The best "Band name gone wrong" story *has* to be the Guess Who.
You know, American Woman, No Sugar Tonight...
Anyways, The 2 songwriters and singers were Burton Cummings and Randy Bachman.
Somehow, the original bass player owns the name and he's the biggest prick going.
He tours bars and casinos in the States with a bunch of nobodies as "The Guess Who" while all the other members have to tour as "The Cummings Bachman Band". They can use the Guess Who name if they pay him for it, and he's not touring at the time.
You know, American Woman, No Sugar Tonight...
Anyways, The 2 songwriters and singers were Burton Cummings and Randy Bachman.
Somehow, the original bass player owns the name and he's the biggest prick going.
He tours bars and casinos in the States with a bunch of nobodies as "The Guess Who" while all the other members have to tour as "The Cummings Bachman Band". They can use the Guess Who name if they pay him for it, and he's not touring at the time.
One more post...
A few years ago "Boney M" played Toronto. You know "Rasputin"...
Anyways, it was their first North American appearance *Ever* and they booked it in the biggest hockey arena in the city and tickets were over $60. I was interested in going because of how rare it was and I thought it might be something special, but decided not to based on price.
Good thing. They only sold about 2000 tickets and it turns out that there was only 1 original member, it lasted about half an hour and it sucked. I looked up an article about it and here's what it said.
"Respected urban music critic Errol Nazareth wrote that it was a "dreadful spectacle," describing the 35-minute show as "the bastard love child of bad karaoke and a Vegas act."
A few years ago "Boney M" played Toronto. You know "Rasputin"...
Anyways, it was their first North American appearance *Ever* and they booked it in the biggest hockey arena in the city and tickets were over $60. I was interested in going because of how rare it was and I thought it might be something special, but decided not to based on price.
Good thing. They only sold about 2000 tickets and it turns out that there was only 1 original member, it lasted about half an hour and it sucked. I looked up an article about it and here's what it said.
"Respected urban music critic Errol Nazareth wrote that it was a "dreadful spectacle," describing the 35-minute show as "the bastard love child of bad karaoke and a Vegas act."
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME].*.Messenger Of Leah.*. wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Freddie is angry. [/QUOTE]
He's told you this himself, has he?
*glug-glug-glug-hic*
So he's cool with the whole dying-before-his-time thing, but he's angry about Paul Rodgers. That's some pretty fucked up priorities right there.
He's told you this himself, has he?
*glug-glug-glug-hic*
So he's cool with the whole dying-before-his-time thing, but he's angry about Paul Rodgers. That's some pretty fucked up priorities right there.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Champipple wrote: [/QUOTENAME]The best "Band name gone wrong" story *has* to be the Guess Who.
You know, American Woman, No Sugar Tonight...
Anyways, The 2 songwriters and singers were Burton Cummings and Randy Bachman.
Somehow, the original bass player owns the name and he's the biggest prick going.
He tours bars and casinos in the States with a bunch of nobodies as "The Guess Who" while all the other members have to tour as "The Cummings Bachman Band". They can use the Guess Who name if they pay him for it, and he's not touring at the time.[/QUOTE]
So that's the story... fascinating!
You know, American Woman, No Sugar Tonight...
Anyways, The 2 songwriters and singers were Burton Cummings and Randy Bachman.
Somehow, the original bass player owns the name and he's the biggest prick going.
He tours bars and casinos in the States with a bunch of nobodies as "The Guess Who" while all the other members have to tour as "The Cummings Bachman Band". They can use the Guess Who name if they pay him for it, and he's not touring at the time.[/QUOTE]
So that's the story... fascinating!
[QUOTE]A really pathetic attempt to profit on past glory[/QUOTE]
Really pathetic attempt to profit...where do you see it? Nobody from QPR is attempting to profit on anything else than joy for themselves and others.
Really pathetic attempt to profit...where do you see it? Nobody from QPR is attempting to profit on anything else than joy for themselves and others.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]violonbleu wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE]A really pathetic attempt to profit on past glory[/QUOTE]
Really pathetic attempt to profit...where do you see it? Nobody from QPR is attempting to profit on anything else than joy for themselves and others.
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Did you actually read the first post in the topic?
Really pathetic attempt to profit...where do you see it? Nobody from QPR is attempting to profit on anything else than joy for themselves and others.
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Did you actually read the first post in the topic?
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]violonbleu wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE]A really pathetic attempt to profit on past glory[/QUOTE]
Really pathetic attempt to profit...where do you see it? Nobody from QPR is attempting to profit on anything else than joy for themselves and others.
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Did you actually read the first post in the topic?
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I wanted to say: QPR, the new guy from Guns'n'Rose,of course :-)
Sorry, Sir.
Really pathetic attempt to profit...where do you see it? Nobody from QPR is attempting to profit on anything else than joy for themselves and others.
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Did you actually read the first post in the topic?
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I wanted to say: QPR, the new guy from Guns'n'Rose,of course :-)
Sorry, Sir.
No prob.. :)
Same thing with Black Sabbath during the 80s and 90s...Iommi owns the name. He was sometimes the only original member.