I have to agree with the opinion of Jazz, no prescence of roy thomas baker, but too say no good songs on magic especially who wants to live forever, is wrong for me
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[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]maxpower wrote: [/QUOTENAME]I have to agree with the opinion of Jazz, no prescence of roy thomas baker, but too say no good songs on magic especially who wants to live forever, is wrong for me [/QUOTE]
You name WWTLF, but FORGET Princes Of The Universe?!!
You name WWTLF, but FORGET Princes Of The Universe?!!
who wants to live forever and princess of the universe don't sound like anybody but queen. Name one other artist from the 80's that sounds like "it's a hard life" or "hammer to falls" "one vision" these songs only sound like queen. The popular stuff from the eighties were michael jackson, boy george, duran duran. Eighties queen sounds nothing like any of that.
There are good and bad points amongst Hot Space/The Works/A Kind Of Magic/The Miracle albums - but as a complete work, I feel Queen hit their 80s peak with The Game, and peaked in America as a whole with that record. The next (and last) classic album didn't materialise until Innuendo eleven years later.
The 80s were obviously a difficult period in some ways - less material recorded, no American tours after 1982 and many individual solo projects.
In terms of their sound, I think that is simply illustrated by looking at the lack of heavier songs produced over the 6 albums (listed below)...
Need Your Loving Tonight
Battle Theme/The Hero
Put Out The Fire
Tear It Up
Hammer To Fall
Princes Of The Universe
I Want It All
Looking at the discography as a whole, there was a discussion here a while back as to whether there is such a thing as a "perfect" Queen album. I don't think there is from start to finish, but Sheer Heart Attack is still their best work for me.
The 80s were obviously a difficult period in some ways - less material recorded, no American tours after 1982 and many individual solo projects.
In terms of their sound, I think that is simply illustrated by looking at the lack of heavier songs produced over the 6 albums (listed below)...
Need Your Loving Tonight
Battle Theme/The Hero
Put Out The Fire
Tear It Up
Hammer To Fall
Princes Of The Universe
I Want It All
Looking at the discography as a whole, there was a discussion here a while back as to whether there is such a thing as a "perfect" Queen album. I don't think there is from start to finish, but Sheer Heart Attack is still their best work for me.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<font color=maroon>bitesthedust wrote: [/QUOTENAME]There are good and bad points amongst Hot Space/The Works/A Kind Of Magic/The Miracle albums - but as a complete work, I feel Queen hit their 80s peak with The Game, and peaked in America as a whole with that record. The next (and last) classic album didn't materialise until Innuendo eleven years later.
The 80s were obviously a difficult period in some ways - less material recorded, no American tours after 1982 and many individual solo projects.
In terms of their sound, I think that is simply illustrated by looking at the lack of heavier songs produced over the 6 albums (listed below)...
Need Your Loving Tonight
Battle Theme/The Hero
Put Out The Fire
Tear It Up
Hammer To Fall
Princes Of The Universe
I Want It All
Looking at the discography as a whole, there was a discussion here a while back as to whether there is such a thing as a "perfect" Queen album. I don't think there is from start to finish, but Sheer Heart Attack is still their best work for me.
[/QUOTE]it's a shame that you say that. "there's no such thing as a perfect queen album" I disagree, the first 5 albums were perfect in my eye's. except "loser in the end" is weaker. I do agree that "the game" is Queens peak in the 80's but the second side of that album let's us down a bit. It could have been the perfect 80's album. It's funny you mention the lack of heavier songs in the eighties like "tear it up" and "put out the fire" I actually think these are the weaker songs on their respective albums.
The 80s were obviously a difficult period in some ways - less material recorded, no American tours after 1982 and many individual solo projects.
In terms of their sound, I think that is simply illustrated by looking at the lack of heavier songs produced over the 6 albums (listed below)...
Need Your Loving Tonight
Battle Theme/The Hero
Put Out The Fire
Tear It Up
Hammer To Fall
Princes Of The Universe
I Want It All
Looking at the discography as a whole, there was a discussion here a while back as to whether there is such a thing as a "perfect" Queen album. I don't think there is from start to finish, but Sheer Heart Attack is still their best work for me.
[/QUOTE]it's a shame that you say that. "there's no such thing as a perfect queen album" I disagree, the first 5 albums were perfect in my eye's. except "loser in the end" is weaker. I do agree that "the game" is Queens peak in the 80's but the second side of that album let's us down a bit. It could have been the perfect 80's album. It's funny you mention the lack of heavier songs in the eighties like "tear it up" and "put out the fire" I actually think these are the weaker songs on their respective albums.
Here's my take on all this when getting into queen i don't think it matters what album you listen to first to gauge a decision on best album etc..., i know my first queen album was the works and i was 10 years old at the time and i love it.
Radio gaga was high in the charts and followed by break free not long after i thought hammer to fall was pure rock and the other tracks were great, when the next one i found was queen 2 it was like woooooo what the hell is this i absouletely love it, very layered over amplified with segues into each track and a beautiful duo of nevermore and white queen.
Was this the same group???? it was and i continued to delve to other albums to see what queen have delivered so in the end it's all down to taste and choice, i do disagree with louvox's points but again it's his/her opinion.
For me queen queen2 SHA ANATO adatr are made with production from ROY THOMAS BAKER and queen strecthing the limits of the studio to the MAX, but like anything else you can get fed up of the same routine and look for new ground to test and of course that's what happened NOTW JAZZ taking a queen band on foreign sand in terms of production and sound what made queen change???.
Punk had started and a new trend of bands were emerging so of course the times were changing so queen followed but on their terms, so contrary to popular belief when times changes usually style does also.
Radio gaga was high in the charts and followed by break free not long after i thought hammer to fall was pure rock and the other tracks were great, when the next one i found was queen 2 it was like woooooo what the hell is this i absouletely love it, very layered over amplified with segues into each track and a beautiful duo of nevermore and white queen.
Was this the same group???? it was and i continued to delve to other albums to see what queen have delivered so in the end it's all down to taste and choice, i do disagree with louvox's points but again it's his/her opinion.
For me queen queen2 SHA ANATO adatr are made with production from ROY THOMAS BAKER and queen strecthing the limits of the studio to the MAX, but like anything else you can get fed up of the same routine and look for new ground to test and of course that's what happened NOTW JAZZ taking a queen band on foreign sand in terms of production and sound what made queen change???.
Punk had started and a new trend of bands were emerging so of course the times were changing so queen followed but on their terms, so contrary to popular belief when times changes usually style does also.