I personally feel that Queen II is a much more acclomplished piece of music. Don't get me wrong, SHA is a killer album, with some cracking songs, but the entire concept behind QueenII: the contrast in black side and white side, the contrast to the iconic cover photo, the contrast of ethereal (white queen, nevermore) to sheer bombast rock (father to soon, black queen etc..). Its a purely fantastic piece of art. It flows so amazingly and is so freaking bonkers and flamboyant. It's so theatrical and camp and artistic and heavy that I think it's Queens defining sound. SHA is great, i mean, Brighton Rock for gods sake! But as a piece of art, it has to be Queen II.
Their best album? I think so.
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Yup. I´ll cast my wote on Queen II because it´s as many call it balanced. But I do LOVE Brighton Rock and Killer...
i like them both but i find it amazing that queen 2 and SHA both came out in 1974. the two albums sound years and years apart. i think they made a huge jump from queen 2. the production is a hell of alot better compared to the somewhat confused approach on queen 2 i.e(whats with all the bass?). on SHA they were focusing more on writing shorter pop songs and it was more of a band effort i think.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]dont try suicide wrote: [/QUOTENAME]i like them both but i find it amazing that queen 2 and SHA both came out in 1974. the two albums sound years and years apart. i think they made a huge jump from queen 2. the production is a hell of alot better compared to the somewhat confused approach on queen 2 i.e(whats with all the bass?). on SHA they were focusing more on writing shorter pop songs and it was more of a band effort i think.[/QUOTE]
Both albums came out in 1974 but queen 2 was actually recorded in july/august 1973 and completed within a month where as SHA was recorded june1974 onwards, so there's almost a year difference perhaps that's why it SOUNDS different.
Still my two fave albums love them to bits.
Both albums came out in 1974 but queen 2 was actually recorded in july/august 1973 and completed within a month where as SHA was recorded june1974 onwards, so there's almost a year difference perhaps that's why it SOUNDS different.
Still my two fave albums love them to bits.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]dont try suicide wrote: [/QUOTENAME]i like them both but i find it amazing that queen 2 and SHA both came out in 1974. the two albums sound years and years apart. i think they made a huge jump from queen 2. the production is a hell of alot better compared to the somewhat confused approach on queen 2 i.e(whats with all the bass?). on SHA they were focusing more on writing shorter pop songs and it was more of a band effort i think.[/QUOTE]
If you call SHA a pop album, stop listening to music. It's not the crazy progressive metal fest called Queen II, it ain't the raw metal of Queen I, but it's still damn rocking. Brighton Rock, Tenement Funster, Flick of the Wrist, Now I'm Here, Stone Cold Crazy...
But oh, it got Killer Queen. Damn, that makes it a pop album...
If you call SHA a pop album, stop listening to music. It's not the crazy progressive metal fest called Queen II, it ain't the raw metal of Queen I, but it's still damn rocking. Brighton Rock, Tenement Funster, Flick of the Wrist, Now I'm Here, Stone Cold Crazy...
But oh, it got Killer Queen. Damn, that makes it a pop album...
> If you call SHA a pop album, stop listening to music. It's not the crazy progressive metal fest called Queen II, it ain't the raw metal of Queen I, but it's still damn rocking. Brighton Rock, Tenement Funster, Flick of the Wrist, Now I'm Here, Stone Cold Crazy... But oh, it got Killer Queen. Damn, that makes it a pop album...
Standing ovation!
Standing ovation!
in the lap of the gods, dear friends, killer queen, lilly of the valley, misfire, she makes me, leroy brown. yeah your right dude. SHA really is a metal ablum. my bad. you win.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]dont try suicide wrote: [/QUOTENAME]in the lap of the gods, dear friends, killer queen, lilly of the valley, misfire, she makes me, leroy brown. yeah your right dude. SHA really is a metal ablum. my bad. you win.[/QUOTE]
In the Lap of the Gods = Super-progressive wierdfeast. Pop? Get educated in music, mister.
Dear Friends = Ballad. Ballads doesn't count on the overall genre-stuff. Hell, is Queen II a softy because of White Queen and Nevermore?
Killer Queen = Yeah, this is pop rock/glam rock.
Lily of the Valley = Ballad. See above.
Misfire = Carribian pop/rock. A damn experiment, this.
She Makes Me = A (really fucking boring) ballad. See above.
Bring Back That Leroy Brown = Dude, this is ragtime. Hilarious ragtime. Queen loved vaudeville and the '20/30s. Not pop.
But still, it got some badly heavy riffs (Stone Cold Crazy, Now I'm Here) thundering guitarsolos (Brighton fuckin' Rock), evil music (Flick of the Wrist), and just normal hard rock (Tenement Funster).
Would like to call Sheer Heart Attack Hard rock/glam rock/progressive rock/heavy metal.
In the Lap of the Gods = Super-progressive wierdfeast. Pop? Get educated in music, mister.
Dear Friends = Ballad. Ballads doesn't count on the overall genre-stuff. Hell, is Queen II a softy because of White Queen and Nevermore?
Killer Queen = Yeah, this is pop rock/glam rock.
Lily of the Valley = Ballad. See above.
Misfire = Carribian pop/rock. A damn experiment, this.
She Makes Me = A (really fucking boring) ballad. See above.
Bring Back That Leroy Brown = Dude, this is ragtime. Hilarious ragtime. Queen loved vaudeville and the '20/30s. Not pop.
But still, it got some badly heavy riffs (Stone Cold Crazy, Now I'm Here) thundering guitarsolos (Brighton fuckin' Rock), evil music (Flick of the Wrist), and just normal hard rock (Tenement Funster).
Would like to call Sheer Heart Attack Hard rock/glam rock/progressive rock/heavy metal.
I'd simply call it a Queen album.
As for She Makes Me, I'll agree it's not their greatest effort, but I recently started listening to it again, and it's got more creative flourishes than most bands good songs. I also think that Brian was going for atmospheric results on this, as despite it's major chord progression it's one of his moodier pieces.
As for She Makes Me, I'll agree it's not their greatest effort, but I recently started listening to it again, and it's got more creative flourishes than most bands good songs. I also think that Brian was going for atmospheric results on this, as despite it's major chord progression it's one of his moodier pieces.
Dear Friends is a sort of lullaby imo.
well, out of the 13 songs on the album only five are really rockin. i would say that flick of the wrist, brighton rock, and stone cold crazy would fall in the metal category and now im here is just a good olde fashion rock n roll song ala chuck berry and in the lap of the gods revisited is just plain rock. but all in all i would call sheer heart attack a good rock record with a lot of pop elements.
for what it's worth i don't think i was ever claiming that SHA was a pop album. i simply said that during this period the queen guys were concentrating more on writing good songs rather than trying to prove to everyone how heavy they could play. im not going to argue anymore becuase it's pointless. everyone on here has there own views. nobody's right and nobody's wrong.
for what it's worth i don't think i was ever claiming that SHA was a pop album. i simply said that during this period the queen guys were concentrating more on writing good songs rather than trying to prove to everyone how heavy they could play. im not going to argue anymore becuase it's pointless. everyone on here has there own views. nobody's right and nobody's wrong.
Yes and no. Between these two perspectives...
a. 'Bo Rhap' has mock-opera
b. 'Bo Rhap' has mock-operetta
... there are no absolute "right" or "wrong" solutions. But between these two...
a. 'Sheer Heart Attack' has some pop
b. 'Sheer Heart Attack' is a pop album
... "b" is wrong.
a. 'Bo Rhap' has mock-opera
b. 'Bo Rhap' has mock-operetta
... there are no absolute "right" or "wrong" solutions. But between these two...
a. 'Sheer Heart Attack' has some pop
b. 'Sheer Heart Attack' is a pop album
... "b" is wrong.
But when we're at it, Queen II has Funny How Love Is (the most ridcilous pop song ever) and Queen I got Mad the Swine (the re-release, at least). Does this make them pop albums? Hell no. And it was just the way of Queen baby: Experiment with the music 'til you drop. Just take a look at Jazz.
1. Arabian comedy rock
2. Sexual, country-flavored hard rock
3. Sweet piano ballad
4. Crazy childish neo-prog
5. Power pop
6. Arena rock parody
7. Speed rock
8. Pop
9. Vaudeville
10. Funk
11. Soft rock
12. Pop rock
13. Hard rock
Now I want you to put one genre on that album, mister.
1. Arabian comedy rock
2. Sexual, country-flavored hard rock
3. Sweet piano ballad
4. Crazy childish neo-prog
5. Power pop
6. Arena rock parody
7. Speed rock
8. Pop
9. Vaudeville
10. Funk
11. Soft rock
12. Pop rock
13. Hard rock
Now I want you to put one genre on that album, mister.
And that's an important side of Jazz: it's so eclectic. I love the album.
Yeah, and Sheer Heart Attack is almost as electic. I mean, come on. Its track list:
1. Guitar Virtuso
2. Pop rock
3. Hard rock
4. Pop metal
5. Evil metal
6. Fantasy ballad
7. Progressive mumbo-jumbo
8. Speed metal
9. Carribian pop
10. Lullaby
11. Ragtime
12. Boring ballad
13. Arena rock
You see? Let's see how many time pop music is mentioned... Three times. And one of them is pop metal (Now I'm Here), so that doesn't count.
Gosh, Queen sure was electic... In the '70s at least. In the '80s, they ranged from synth-pop to synth-rock.
1. Guitar Virtuso
2. Pop rock
3. Hard rock
4. Pop metal
5. Evil metal
6. Fantasy ballad
7. Progressive mumbo-jumbo
8. Speed metal
9. Carribian pop
10. Lullaby
11. Ragtime
12. Boring ballad
13. Arena rock
You see? Let's see how many time pop music is mentioned... Three times. And one of them is pop metal (Now I'm Here), so that doesn't count.
Gosh, Queen sure was electic... In the '70s at least. In the '80s, they ranged from synth-pop to synth-rock.