Can you also support your opinion with an adeguate experience in record collecting or it's just an opinion based on what you've read on your horoscope today?
No, that's because who writes howe the following items:
http://www.queencollector.net/MyCollection.htm
and notice that's only an out-of-dated (26th Sept 2006) list.
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I've uploaded other photos here:
http://www.queencollector.net/various/qb5.JPG
http://www.queencollector.net/various/qb6.JPG
http://www.queencollector.net/various/qb7.JPG
Them show also the back of the box and the back of one of the cd's. Notice the silver hologram that belongs to SIAE (Società Italiana Autori ed Editori) which is the Italian copyright association.
I hope this stops any stupid cheat.
http://www.queencollector.net/various/qb5.JPG
http://www.queencollector.net/various/qb6.JPG
http://www.queencollector.net/various/qb7.JPG
Them show also the back of the box and the back of one of the cd's. Notice the silver hologram that belongs to SIAE (Società Italiana Autori ed Editori) which is the Italian copyright association.
I hope this stops any stupid cheat.
I don't know nor cant't see:
Sorrisi & Canzoni released this box set. What's the problem?
If you want have buy it from Giancarlo, although leave it in his hands.
bye
Sorrisi & Canzoni released this box set. What's the problem?
If you want have buy it from Giancarlo, although leave it in his hands.
bye
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]QueenCollector wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Can you also support your opinion with an adeguate experience in record collecting or it's just an opinion based on what you've read on your horoscope today?
No, that's because who writes howe the following items:
http://www.queencollector.net/MyCollection.htm
and notice that's only an out-of-dated (26th Sept 2006) list.[/QUOTE]
Mate, by your own admittance, Italy used to be pirate central.
If it isn't anymore, fair enough, but it is understandable that past reputations affect our judgement.
No, that's because who writes howe the following items:
http://www.queencollector.net/MyCollection.htm
and notice that's only an out-of-dated (26th Sept 2006) list.[/QUOTE]
Mate, by your own admittance, Italy used to be pirate central.
If it isn't anymore, fair enough, but it is understandable that past reputations affect our judgement.
Thesis:
Your sillogism is completely wrong.
Dimostration:
We was used to wear tunics during the ancient Rome time.
We don't wear tunics anymore, now.
Paradox:
Do we must wear tunics because we were famous for that 2000 years ago?
And also:
where do you yet find the brave to say that Italian issues are counterfeits? Was the 7 inches "The Show Must Go On" red vinyl a counterfeit? Was that the Brian's 12 inches "Too Much Love Will Kill You"? Or was it the 12 inches "We Are The Champions (Live)" B/W "We Will Rock You (Live)"? And so on...
In my opinion the most dangerous counterfeits come from Germany:
Just think about the Cross "Liar" 12 inches which is quite the same of the original. Or the "New Dark Ages" 12 inches which luckly doesn't show the baby face on the front sleeve. The perfect copies of the Checz coloured vinyls from the first album "Queen". The fake Bulgarian "Greatest Hits" picture discs. The fake Japanese "I Want It All" promo in multicolour vinyls. The fake "Larry Lurex" counterfeits. Etc...
And the things don't go better in UK.
That's for sure you won't find any stupid Italian that says that any German or English issue is a fake one because they have been (and are) pirate centrals.
It's simply pretentious to say that. It's like we say that any English man is a hooligan or any German man is a Nazis. Do you find it's a clever point of view to judge the actual things from their past?
I don't.
Your sillogism is completely wrong.
Dimostration:
We was used to wear tunics during the ancient Rome time.
We don't wear tunics anymore, now.
Paradox:
Do we must wear tunics because we were famous for that 2000 years ago?
And also:
where do you yet find the brave to say that Italian issues are counterfeits? Was the 7 inches "The Show Must Go On" red vinyl a counterfeit? Was that the Brian's 12 inches "Too Much Love Will Kill You"? Or was it the 12 inches "We Are The Champions (Live)" B/W "We Will Rock You (Live)"? And so on...
In my opinion the most dangerous counterfeits come from Germany:
Just think about the Cross "Liar" 12 inches which is quite the same of the original. Or the "New Dark Ages" 12 inches which luckly doesn't show the baby face on the front sleeve. The perfect copies of the Checz coloured vinyls from the first album "Queen". The fake Bulgarian "Greatest Hits" picture discs. The fake Japanese "I Want It All" promo in multicolour vinyls. The fake "Larry Lurex" counterfeits. Etc...
And the things don't go better in UK.
That's for sure you won't find any stupid Italian that says that any German or English issue is a fake one because they have been (and are) pirate centrals.
It's simply pretentious to say that. It's like we say that any English man is a hooligan or any German man is a Nazis. Do you find it's a clever point of view to judge the actual things from their past?
I don't.
Ciao Giancarlo...purtroppo ho perso la prima uscita...ma senza dubbio "sorrisi e canzoni" ti dà un modo per fartela arrivare...speriamo!
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]QueenCollector wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Thesis:
Your sillogism is completely wrong.
Dimostration:
We was used to wear tunics during the ancient Rome time.
We don't wear tunics anymore, now.
Paradox:
Do we must wear tunics because we were famous for that 2000 years ago?
And also:
where do you yet find the brave to say that Italian issues are counterfeits? Was the 7 inches "The Show Must Go On" red vinyl a counterfeit? Was that the Brian's 12 inches "Too Much Love Will Kill You"? Or was it the 12 inches "We Are The Champions (Live)" B/W "We Will Rock You (Live)"? And so on...
In my opinion the most dangerous counterfeits come from Germany:
Just think about the Cross "Liar" 12 inches which is quite the same of the original. Or the "New Dark Ages" 12 inches which luckly doesn't show the baby face on the front sleeve. The perfect copies of the Checz coloured vinyls from the first album "Queen". The fake Bulgarian "Greatest Hits" picture discs. The fake Japanese "I Want It All" promo in multicolour vinyls. The fake "Larry Lurex" counterfeits. Etc...
And the things don't go better in UK.
That's for sure you won't find any stupid Italian that says that any German or English issue is a fake one because they have been (and are) pirate centrals.
It's simply pretentious to say that. It's like we say that any English man is a hooligan or any German man is a Nazis. Do you find it's a clever point of view to judge the actual things from their past?
I don't.[/QUOTE]
LOL
Your sillogism is completely wrong.
Dimostration:
We was used to wear tunics during the ancient Rome time.
We don't wear tunics anymore, now.
Paradox:
Do we must wear tunics because we were famous for that 2000 years ago?
And also:
where do you yet find the brave to say that Italian issues are counterfeits? Was the 7 inches "The Show Must Go On" red vinyl a counterfeit? Was that the Brian's 12 inches "Too Much Love Will Kill You"? Or was it the 12 inches "We Are The Champions (Live)" B/W "We Will Rock You (Live)"? And so on...
In my opinion the most dangerous counterfeits come from Germany:
Just think about the Cross "Liar" 12 inches which is quite the same of the original. Or the "New Dark Ages" 12 inches which luckly doesn't show the baby face on the front sleeve. The perfect copies of the Checz coloured vinyls from the first album "Queen". The fake Bulgarian "Greatest Hits" picture discs. The fake Japanese "I Want It All" promo in multicolour vinyls. The fake "Larry Lurex" counterfeits. Etc...
And the things don't go better in UK.
That's for sure you won't find any stupid Italian that says that any German or English issue is a fake one because they have been (and are) pirate centrals.
It's simply pretentious to say that. It's like we say that any English man is a hooligan or any German man is a Nazis. Do you find it's a clever point of view to judge the actual things from their past?
I don't.[/QUOTE]
LOL
I want to say my opinion about this release...
I'm from Italy and I bought the 2 cds (GH & GHII).
These look like original, but some little things quite made me change idea..
First of all, here in Italy, in these days, we have NOT any bootleg market more, because of the strict laws... and in this edition there is the S.I.A.E. (Società Italiana Autori ed Editori / Italian Authors' and Publishers' Association) logo, which means that we're dealing with original material.
But, the covers aren't surely original.. they look like scans from the original.. and I've to say, really bad scans, comparing with the "music store" releases..
Not only, in the GH II booklet, the text has been replaced, or better, re-written (probably for the bad quality of the scans) including some gross mistakes (for example "Freddie" rather than "Freddie")... :(
So, about the recordings, I have no doubt about their originality, but for the covers I'm presumptuously sure, they are NOT original...
Then, for 9,90 € each, we cannot ask for anything else... just enjoy this great occasion, having this limited edition.
If you want I can post the scans of both booklets (the original and this with the mistakes).. since Giancarlo didn't open the box (for obvious reasons)
Sorry for my "italianized" English.. :)
I'm from Italy and I bought the 2 cds (GH & GHII).
These look like original, but some little things quite made me change idea..
First of all, here in Italy, in these days, we have NOT any bootleg market more, because of the strict laws... and in this edition there is the S.I.A.E. (Società Italiana Autori ed Editori / Italian Authors' and Publishers' Association) logo, which means that we're dealing with original material.
But, the covers aren't surely original.. they look like scans from the original.. and I've to say, really bad scans, comparing with the "music store" releases..
Not only, in the GH II booklet, the text has been replaced, or better, re-written (probably for the bad quality of the scans) including some gross mistakes (for example "Freddie" rather than "Freddie")... :(
So, about the recordings, I have no doubt about their originality, but for the covers I'm presumptuously sure, they are NOT original...
Then, for 9,90 € each, we cannot ask for anything else... just enjoy this great occasion, having this limited edition.
If you want I can post the scans of both booklets (the original and this with the mistakes).. since Giancarlo didn't open the box (for obvious reasons)
Sorry for my "italianized" English.. :)
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]queen7391 wrote: [/QUOTENAME]
If you want I can post the scans of both booklets (the original and this with the mistakes).. since Giancarlo didn't open the box (for obvious reasons)
Sorry for my "italianized" English.. :)[/QUOTE]
Hi, don't worry, we understand what you mean. Thank you for the extra information.
If you could post scans of the Sorrisi e Canzoni versions? Could you describe the discs too please?
Thanks again!
If you want I can post the scans of both booklets (the original and this with the mistakes).. since Giancarlo didn't open the box (for obvious reasons)
Sorry for my "italianized" English.. :)[/QUOTE]
Hi, don't worry, we understand what you mean. Thank you for the extra information.
If you could post scans of the Sorrisi e Canzoni versions? Could you describe the discs too please?
Thanks again!
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]queen7391 wrote: [/QUOTENAME]I want to say my opinion about this release...
I'm from Italy and I bought the 2 cds (GH & GHII).
These look like original, but some little things quite made me change idea..
[/QUOTE]
You don't have to change your first idea.
You may say these are poor releases or they are not at the Parlophone best, but you cannot think that a Mondadori journal can trade in bootlegs.
That's a different point and that doesn't reflect on the fact that these items are definitevely original items.
I'm from Italy and I bought the 2 cds (GH & GHII).
These look like original, but some little things quite made me change idea..
[/QUOTE]
You don't have to change your first idea.
You may say these are poor releases or they are not at the Parlophone best, but you cannot think that a Mondadori journal can trade in bootlegs.
That's a different point and that doesn't reflect on the fact that these items are definitevely original items.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]queen7391 wrote: [/QUOTENAME]in the GH II booklet, the text has been replaced, or better, re-written (probably for the bad quality of the scans) including some gross mistakes (for example "Freddie" rather than "Freddie")...[/QUOTE]... sorry, quickly checked the booklet but I can not find the "Freddie" you mention - where is it...?
Anyway, I agree on the bad print quality but it's a legitimate release.
Anyway, I agree on the bad print quality but it's a legitimate release.
Look in the 9th page, under the photo... there's written "Freddie Mercury, 1991"
Oohh, looking better, i found another very very little mistake.. on the 8th page under the photo there's written "I Want It ALl, 1989" with the "L"...
... oh, sh*t ... :-D
I just want to skip all the crap, and ask flat out... is this another cheap pirate, or does it have anything new to offer?