[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Micrówave wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Adam Baboolal wrote: [/QUOTENAME]The Deacy is NOT a bloody toy. Some purists don't like it, but I tell ya what, I've heard some extremely good recordings made with one. [/QUOTE]
Really? Seriously Adam, can you name some? I'd be interested to see if anybody has professionally recorded with it. And I don't mean some garage band that you recorded. I'm talking about someone with some skins on the wall.
Some of the people here (not accusing you) sound like Brian May Products salesmen. I would hope that we would let honesty answer our questions and not be clouded by Brianitis. Hey, I love Brian, too! But I know all about endorsements. I really don't think Brian spent too much time with the R&D team on the amp or the pedal.
But again, it's all how it feels to the musician. My favorite strat right now is the Eric Johnson signature. It fits me good and I simply love the tone and playability. The Eric Clapton model is $1000 more, but If I had to choose, I'd take the Johnson.[/QUOTE]
I've heard some decent recordings of the Vox Deacy in action. Visit the "Fan Works" area of this site http://www.timelily2.com/SoundCollectionsF.html
Try this site too http://p209.ezboard.com/Red-Special/fbrianmayworldfrm13 The Brian May board has plenty of anoraks ;-P
Granted it is no where near the original, nothing is. No matter how much you try, people aren't Brian May, to tell you the truth his recent sound doesn't sound like the sound I fell in love with. To me, the true Brian May sound came out of the 74-79 years. Nothing can beat that.
I have a Vox Deacy, but I only use if to practice, I would look silly bringing that amp to a gig. By no way am I a sales man, I do purchase my guitars strings from Wimba though, but I do like Brians products. The Digitech is okay, the Vox Deacy is a decent practice amp, and his guitars are pretty good too. The only thing I really don't like is the Vox AC-30BM, waste of money if you ask me. Vox amps haven't been Vox amps in a long time either, for the true Vox AC-30 experience you have to by a JMI amp.
http://www.jmiamplification.com/h1.htm
Nothing will beat the real thing.
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[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Adam Baboolal wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Dude, calm down. Seriously, you seem pissed off for some reason.[/QUOTE]
No, Adam, I'm not. I really tried to word that so you wouldn't think that. But I'm also a little disappointed that a lot of people are telling people to spend a reasonable chunk of change when they will end up disapointed.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Adam Baboolal wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Secondly, there aren't any professionals using the Deacy. Why would they? They'd get accused of stealing a sound or not using their own initiative to come up with their own sound. And it was a niche product which is why it only ran for a short time.[/QUOTE]
For twice the price you could get a really good small combo. Plus you suggested that using it to record can get good results. That's simply not true. No offense to the the patches you listed, but you don't hear that? First off it screams SOLID STATE. I personally can't stand tubeless guitars or simulating them. I can hear it right off the bat, usually.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Adam Baboolal wrote: [/QUOTENAME]I also think it's unfair to judge the AC30BM so harshly. It's setup in a very specific way for a specific purpose. It may be expensive, but it does what it's supposed to do. Some people want that. Not me, mind.
http://p209.ezboard.com/fbrianmayworldfrm13.showMessage?topicID=4163.topic
If you can search that forum, I'm sure someone recorded a song of their own with the ac30bm and it sounded excellent.[/QUOTE]
Without searching, I think it's pretty safe to say it's not a real AC30. That sound only comes from an old original. And incidentally, those new Vox Valvetronix amps and processors suck, too. At least the ones I've tried. Take Tom Petty, for example. Play a Ric 330 thru a real AC30 or a Marshall or Fender tube amp. Then use the new stuff with a cheaper made guitar. Then jangle is just not there.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Adam Baboolal wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Back to the Deacy. So, the only place I could point towards for these Deacy examples could be the Red Special forum at Brianmayworld.com. But then, there used to be sites I checked out on the web somewhere. It's on another computer, so I don't have the links to hand. But seriously, it works if you want it to. One of the recent comments about it was to treat it like the real deacy and Brian said they used to tame the highs by covering it with a coat, for instance. You don't just put a mic in front of it and expect it to work straight off. Uh uh... Which makes me wonder. Why don't you like it again?[/QUOTE]
1. I don't want to go thru some wierd ritual to get the sound I like. Tame the highs with a coat? No thanks give me a knob or tell the engineer to EQ it.
2. no 8" speaker sounds good for live or recording purposes, period. I want to hear what I want it to sound like when practicing.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Adam Baboolal wrote: [/QUOTENAME]P.s. what was the garage band comment all about?[/QUOTE]
Again, no offense, but those clips you gave kinda sound like garage bands. And when I said "garage bands you recorded", I should have been more clear. I didn't specifically mean you. I meant "you" the one you recorded the band in general. I'm not criticizing technique, those just sound thin. Please, don't be offended, maybe it's my ear.
In closing, I find 100% of your posts informative and quite interesting. If you were a blowhard, I simply wouldn't respond. But you're one of the top ears on this board, in my opinion. You obviously have spent just as much time in the studio as I, possibly more. Thank God you weren't one of those Casio guys, then I really would've had to have a little talk with you.
So, no hard feelings Adam. I just believe that I was stating the obvious to some. I see somebody else already agreed with me about the AC30. I know if you had a choice between the Brian May and a '73 AC30 what you'd take, so please sorry if I came off a little rash
No, Adam, I'm not. I really tried to word that so you wouldn't think that. But I'm also a little disappointed that a lot of people are telling people to spend a reasonable chunk of change when they will end up disapointed.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Adam Baboolal wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Secondly, there aren't any professionals using the Deacy. Why would they? They'd get accused of stealing a sound or not using their own initiative to come up with their own sound. And it was a niche product which is why it only ran for a short time.[/QUOTE]
For twice the price you could get a really good small combo. Plus you suggested that using it to record can get good results. That's simply not true. No offense to the the patches you listed, but you don't hear that? First off it screams SOLID STATE. I personally can't stand tubeless guitars or simulating them. I can hear it right off the bat, usually.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Adam Baboolal wrote: [/QUOTENAME]I also think it's unfair to judge the AC30BM so harshly. It's setup in a very specific way for a specific purpose. It may be expensive, but it does what it's supposed to do. Some people want that. Not me, mind.
http://p209.ezboard.com/fbrianmayworldfrm13.showMessage?topicID=4163.topic
If you can search that forum, I'm sure someone recorded a song of their own with the ac30bm and it sounded excellent.[/QUOTE]
Without searching, I think it's pretty safe to say it's not a real AC30. That sound only comes from an old original. And incidentally, those new Vox Valvetronix amps and processors suck, too. At least the ones I've tried. Take Tom Petty, for example. Play a Ric 330 thru a real AC30 or a Marshall or Fender tube amp. Then use the new stuff with a cheaper made guitar. Then jangle is just not there.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Adam Baboolal wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Back to the Deacy. So, the only place I could point towards for these Deacy examples could be the Red Special forum at Brianmayworld.com. But then, there used to be sites I checked out on the web somewhere. It's on another computer, so I don't have the links to hand. But seriously, it works if you want it to. One of the recent comments about it was to treat it like the real deacy and Brian said they used to tame the highs by covering it with a coat, for instance. You don't just put a mic in front of it and expect it to work straight off. Uh uh... Which makes me wonder. Why don't you like it again?[/QUOTE]
1. I don't want to go thru some wierd ritual to get the sound I like. Tame the highs with a coat? No thanks give me a knob or tell the engineer to EQ it.
2. no 8" speaker sounds good for live or recording purposes, period. I want to hear what I want it to sound like when practicing.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Adam Baboolal wrote: [/QUOTENAME]P.s. what was the garage band comment all about?[/QUOTE]
Again, no offense, but those clips you gave kinda sound like garage bands. And when I said "garage bands you recorded", I should have been more clear. I didn't specifically mean you. I meant "you" the one you recorded the band in general. I'm not criticizing technique, those just sound thin. Please, don't be offended, maybe it's my ear.
In closing, I find 100% of your posts informative and quite interesting. If you were a blowhard, I simply wouldn't respond. But you're one of the top ears on this board, in my opinion. You obviously have spent just as much time in the studio as I, possibly more. Thank God you weren't one of those Casio guys, then I really would've had to have a little talk with you.
So, no hard feelings Adam. I just believe that I was stating the obvious to some. I see somebody else already agreed with me about the AC30. I know if you had a choice between the Brian May and a '73 AC30 what you'd take, so please sorry if I came off a little rash
Just to clarify, I only posted a link to a post on a forum not to any sounds. I think you mistook someone else's post for mine.
The Deacy amp may be a kind of novelty, but it's a far cry from a toy. I have gigged out with it miked, and it rocks with the cock out.
I just tried the pedal today for the second time at Guitar Center, and the triple-harmonic effect alone make it worth 200 bucks.
The toy to me has been the Mini May, which I haven't found very playable -- it doesn't really stay in tune. Granted, it was shipped to me from England, and I haven't gotten it properly set up, but I have yet to get this thing in tune to even strum a chord. It doesn't bode well for me for the BM guitars. I am more than happy with my Burns, for the record!
I just tried the pedal today for the second time at Guitar Center, and the triple-harmonic effect alone make it worth 200 bucks.
The toy to me has been the Mini May, which I haven't found very playable -- it doesn't really stay in tune. Granted, it was shipped to me from England, and I haven't gotten it properly set up, but I have yet to get this thing in tune to even strum a chord. It doesn't bode well for me for the BM guitars. I am more than happy with my Burns, for the record!
"For twice the price you could get a really good combo."
Sure. OK, the Deaky costs what? $125. So you spend another $125 and you could get a mini-Marshall or a Line 6? Great. I've got a Line 6 and a Deaky. It's apples and oranges. I use the Deaky to practice, and it sounds way better than, say, a Gorilla amp that costs that much, or a crappy Peavey amp. It's a practice amp!
Saying the Burns BM sounds like a Jackson is kinda harsh. It sounds like a Les Paul SG-1 to me at worst -- a two-setting smooth rhythm and nasty lead. And isn't that what we all need as rock guitarists anyway?
Like I said, I have gigged out with the Deaky, and with one mic on it, it filled a club-sized room. Sure, it might look ridiculous, but I'm the kind of guy who doesn't care about how I look onstage, just how I sound.
Sure. OK, the Deaky costs what? $125. So you spend another $125 and you could get a mini-Marshall or a Line 6? Great. I've got a Line 6 and a Deaky. It's apples and oranges. I use the Deaky to practice, and it sounds way better than, say, a Gorilla amp that costs that much, or a crappy Peavey amp. It's a practice amp!
Saying the Burns BM sounds like a Jackson is kinda harsh. It sounds like a Les Paul SG-1 to me at worst -- a two-setting smooth rhythm and nasty lead. And isn't that what we all need as rock guitarists anyway?
Like I said, I have gigged out with the Deaky, and with one mic on it, it filled a club-sized room. Sure, it might look ridiculous, but I'm the kind of guy who doesn't care about how I look onstage, just how I sound.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Adam Baboolal wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Just to clarify, I only posted a link to a post on a forum not to any sounds. I think you mistook someone else's post for mine.[/QUOTE]
Yes, my bad.
Yes, my bad.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Daniel Nester wrote: [/QUOTENAME]"For twice the price you could get a really good combo."
Sure. OK, the Deaky costs what? $125. So you spend another $125 and you could get a mini-Marshall or a Line 6? Great. I've got a Line 6 and a Deaky. It's apples and oranges. I use the Deaky to practice, and it sounds way better than, say, a Gorilla amp that costs that much, or a crappy Peavey amp. It's a practice amp!
Saying the Burns BM sounds like a Jackson is kinda harsh. It sounds like a Les Paul SG-1 to me at worst -- a two-setting smooth rhythm and nasty lead. And isn't that what we all need as rock guitarists anyway?
Like I said, I have gigged out with the Deaky, and with one mic on it, it filled a club-sized room. Sure, it might look ridiculous, but I'm the kind of guy who doesn't care about how I look onstage, just how I sound. [/QUOTE]
1. Yes, it's a practice amp, but I just don't like that crunchy 8" sound. That's not what I'm going to want to sound like, so again it's me.
2. You said you had the Deacy and the Line 6. I'm just betting that if you had the small Marshall you mentioned, you'd sell those other two within a year... until I read further...
3. Ah, you got my Jackson joke. Of course it's not as bad as that. But I have a Guild original and paid quite a lot for it. Back when I wanted to collect as well as play it. Then the Burns came out claiming to sound just as good. A lot of people ate that up... people like me. So maybe I have a grudge...
4. You have a purpose for the Deacy amp. Looks, I agree, are not important. But if you've taken that out to perform live, well, that's your sound. And then the amp becomes useful. So in your case, it is worth every penny. But if you're playing a $3000 guitar, don't you want it to sound kinda like that? Only a tube amp can do that.
Funny how this has turned into the MICROWAVE HAS TO JUSTIFY HIS AURAL PERCEPTION. My days of "Nasty leads" are long over. And one "smooth rhythm" isn't gonna do it. Takes different wood, pickups, etc. I'm more into tone now than ever before. Listen to guys like Donald Koessler (Buck Dharma), Peter Frampton, Adrian Belew, Jeff Beck today. Their tone is 100 times better today than in the 70s. Those guys crafted their sound over the years. And they're not doing it with cheap amps or footpedals either.
Sure. OK, the Deaky costs what? $125. So you spend another $125 and you could get a mini-Marshall or a Line 6? Great. I've got a Line 6 and a Deaky. It's apples and oranges. I use the Deaky to practice, and it sounds way better than, say, a Gorilla amp that costs that much, or a crappy Peavey amp. It's a practice amp!
Saying the Burns BM sounds like a Jackson is kinda harsh. It sounds like a Les Paul SG-1 to me at worst -- a two-setting smooth rhythm and nasty lead. And isn't that what we all need as rock guitarists anyway?
Like I said, I have gigged out with the Deaky, and with one mic on it, it filled a club-sized room. Sure, it might look ridiculous, but I'm the kind of guy who doesn't care about how I look onstage, just how I sound. [/QUOTE]
1. Yes, it's a practice amp, but I just don't like that crunchy 8" sound. That's not what I'm going to want to sound like, so again it's me.
2. You said you had the Deacy and the Line 6. I'm just betting that if you had the small Marshall you mentioned, you'd sell those other two within a year... until I read further...
3. Ah, you got my Jackson joke. Of course it's not as bad as that. But I have a Guild original and paid quite a lot for it. Back when I wanted to collect as well as play it. Then the Burns came out claiming to sound just as good. A lot of people ate that up... people like me. So maybe I have a grudge...
4. You have a purpose for the Deacy amp. Looks, I agree, are not important. But if you've taken that out to perform live, well, that's your sound. And then the amp becomes useful. So in your case, it is worth every penny. But if you're playing a $3000 guitar, don't you want it to sound kinda like that? Only a tube amp can do that.
Funny how this has turned into the MICROWAVE HAS TO JUSTIFY HIS AURAL PERCEPTION. My days of "Nasty leads" are long over. And one "smooth rhythm" isn't gonna do it. Takes different wood, pickups, etc. I'm more into tone now than ever before. Listen to guys like Donald Koessler (Buck Dharma), Peter Frampton, Adrian Belew, Jeff Beck today. Their tone is 100 times better today than in the 70s. Those guys crafted their sound over the years. And they're not doing it with cheap amps or footpedals either.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Daniel Nester wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Like I said, I have gigged out with the Deaky, and with one mic on it, it filled a club-sized room. Sure, it might look ridiculous, but I'm the kind of guy who doesn't care about how I look onstage, just how I sound. [/QUOTE]
LOL Hey! I did that too!! Even though I had a Vox Cambridge 30RT I still found myself sticking with the VBM1 mic'd. Hmm... Of course, I'm a valvetronix ad50 user now and loving that a million times more. With my 2006 BHM, Treble booster and that amp? It's heaven!
Adam.
LOL Hey! I did that too!! Even though I had a Vox Cambridge 30RT I still found myself sticking with the VBM1 mic'd. Hmm... Of course, I'm a valvetronix ad50 user now and loving that a million times more. With my 2006 BHM, Treble booster and that amp? It's heaven!
Adam.
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3. Ah, you got my Jackson joke. Of course it's not as bad as that. But I have a Guild original and paid quite a lot for it. Back when I wanted to collect as well as play it. Then the Burns came out claiming to sound just as good. A lot of people ate that up... people like me. So maybe I have a grudge...
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The difference between the Burns and the Guilds are night and day. I've played a Guild and a Burns using the same equipment, the Burns does not hold up. And the Burns had Adeson TriSonics on it, it was mine. The Guild was much warmer and had a lot more sustain, and was a better guitar than the my Burns.
3. Ah, you got my Jackson joke. Of course it's not as bad as that. But I have a Guild original and paid quite a lot for it. Back when I wanted to collect as well as play it. Then the Burns came out claiming to sound just as good. A lot of people ate that up... people like me. So maybe I have a grudge...
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The difference between the Burns and the Guilds are night and day. I've played a Guild and a Burns using the same equipment, the Burns does not hold up. And the Burns had Adeson TriSonics on it, it was mine. The Guild was much warmer and had a lot more sustain, and was a better guitar than the my Burns.
Oh please, Microwave! Behave! And give me your gear! :)
If you have a 3,000-dollar guitar, why don't you just say it? Day-um. It sort of takes one out of the debate, though, doesn't it? Kind of like quibbling about the Mini Cooper's interior when one has a Jag in the garage.
I've played the Guild many times over the years, and to it's just as bad/good-sounding as the Burns RS. My main guitar is a Telecaster, and it's fine, but more and more, the Burns BM is my everyday guitar.
Deaky Amp-wise, To shoo away a $100 amp as beneath you is fine, but it's not trying to be anything other than an amp-for-the-masses -- just like Queen is music for the masses! Comparing it to a Marshall amp setup, again, is like a Mini Cooper/Jag debate. I can't speak for the Brian May AC 30; sounds like that it might be a different debate entirely.
I would day it's a disappointment to me that Brian went on his own after the Burns, and let my try to say why.
The Burns is a relatively affordable guitar. It puts forth all the advances in guitar-making--and playing--that Brian and Harold May thought up all those years ago. And people will get that.
Brian's innovations in the guitar, I'd say, are not as big as, say, Leo Fender and Les Paul, but they are certainly up there. And you can't copyright an idea all your life. Brian retreating into Brian May Guitarsland, with the doubling and tripling of guitar prices, is a retreat. In my opinion, he should keep a partnership with Burns -- hell, even Fender/Squire -- while making his marquee guitars.
Why? Mark my prediction: Some day -- if not already -- there will be a guitar with all the innovations Brian has put into the Red Special, and it will look nothing like a Red Special. My only hope is that Brian gets credit for these innovations -- the individual pickup switches, in and out of phase switches, body type , the head stock -- years after he's gone.
No one is talking about whether Deaky is getting money from Vox for his amp, eh? Deaky needs more lap dance money!
If you have a 3,000-dollar guitar, why don't you just say it? Day-um. It sort of takes one out of the debate, though, doesn't it? Kind of like quibbling about the Mini Cooper's interior when one has a Jag in the garage.
I've played the Guild many times over the years, and to it's just as bad/good-sounding as the Burns RS. My main guitar is a Telecaster, and it's fine, but more and more, the Burns BM is my everyday guitar.
Deaky Amp-wise, To shoo away a $100 amp as beneath you is fine, but it's not trying to be anything other than an amp-for-the-masses -- just like Queen is music for the masses! Comparing it to a Marshall amp setup, again, is like a Mini Cooper/Jag debate. I can't speak for the Brian May AC 30; sounds like that it might be a different debate entirely.
I would day it's a disappointment to me that Brian went on his own after the Burns, and let my try to say why.
The Burns is a relatively affordable guitar. It puts forth all the advances in guitar-making--and playing--that Brian and Harold May thought up all those years ago. And people will get that.
Brian's innovations in the guitar, I'd say, are not as big as, say, Leo Fender and Les Paul, but they are certainly up there. And you can't copyright an idea all your life. Brian retreating into Brian May Guitarsland, with the doubling and tripling of guitar prices, is a retreat. In my opinion, he should keep a partnership with Burns -- hell, even Fender/Squire -- while making his marquee guitars.
Why? Mark my prediction: Some day -- if not already -- there will be a guitar with all the innovations Brian has put into the Red Special, and it will look nothing like a Red Special. My only hope is that Brian gets credit for these innovations -- the individual pickup switches, in and out of phase switches, body type , the head stock -- years after he's gone.
No one is talking about whether Deaky is getting money from Vox for his amp, eh? Deaky needs more lap dance money!
I will say, again, that the Mini May is a huge disappointment. Like many Queen fans who buy Red Specials to hang over their mantle, I may do the same with the Mini May. I wanted it to really play -- to play horrible renditions of Hammer to Fall, for example, while on my book tours. But it doesn't even stay in tune.
Anyone wanna buy it? I've got the original box and everything!
Anyone wanna buy it? I've got the original box and everything!
Hooha, leave a thread for 5 minutes and I miss lots of entertaining vitriol!!
Microwave, for clarification - the thing you quoted me as saying actually came from someone else.
"I've had a Mesa Boogie, JCM-120, even tried those Line 6 amps, but I always come back home to my Marshall."
URGH, Line 6.... everyone I know seems to love them, I can't stand the things. They're toy amps, invented for the 14 year old metalhead market I think.
But as for Marshall.... hmmm. Maybe the higher end stuff sounds better? In my price range at the moment, the Laney's offer a better sound and less mud. I'll get back to you if I can ever afford anything decent!
"To me, the true Brian May sound came out of the 74-79 years. Nothing can beat that."
I feel he may have... gone 'astray', occasionally :P But I dunno, in pieces like "The Dark", he's got an unmistakable Brian sound going. I think.
"And incidentally, those new Vox Valvetronix amps and processors suck, too."
I've found that the Valvetronix I tried last week sounded better as long as I didn't dick around too much with simulations and effects. How odd!! I did have it going ear-piercingly loud though, I was probably enjoying myself too much for an objective review.
"I don't want to go thru some wierd ritual to get the sound I like."
Where is your dedication!?!
Hmm...
I see all this talk about Mini Mays, and.... grrr!??! Why bother? If there's just one pickup, it's obviously not going to give the mini people the Mini Brian May tone they're after. What a waste of time!!
"or a crappy Peavey amp."
I recoil in fear from the Peavey brand name, but the Classic 30 is a good amp.
"Saying the Burns BM sounds like a Jackson is kinda harsh."
I really would have to put it down to personal experiences. Most of the more learned guru types who've had a go at my Burns think it's great. I personally like the feel of it, it's a joy to play, I've never really noticed the balance problem that people bring up.
I dunno, my Burns is like any guitar I've had... take care of it, and it'll take care of you!!
"Only a tube amp can do that."
Amen!
Sooo... anyone feel like swapping a 3-tone sunburst BHM with a Burns? :) Gaha.
Microwave, for clarification - the thing you quoted me as saying actually came from someone else.
"I've had a Mesa Boogie, JCM-120, even tried those Line 6 amps, but I always come back home to my Marshall."
URGH, Line 6.... everyone I know seems to love them, I can't stand the things. They're toy amps, invented for the 14 year old metalhead market I think.
But as for Marshall.... hmmm. Maybe the higher end stuff sounds better? In my price range at the moment, the Laney's offer a better sound and less mud. I'll get back to you if I can ever afford anything decent!
"To me, the true Brian May sound came out of the 74-79 years. Nothing can beat that."
I feel he may have... gone 'astray', occasionally :P But I dunno, in pieces like "The Dark", he's got an unmistakable Brian sound going. I think.
"And incidentally, those new Vox Valvetronix amps and processors suck, too."
I've found that the Valvetronix I tried last week sounded better as long as I didn't dick around too much with simulations and effects. How odd!! I did have it going ear-piercingly loud though, I was probably enjoying myself too much for an objective review.
"I don't want to go thru some wierd ritual to get the sound I like."
Where is your dedication!?!
Hmm...
I see all this talk about Mini Mays, and.... grrr!??! Why bother? If there's just one pickup, it's obviously not going to give the mini people the Mini Brian May tone they're after. What a waste of time!!
"or a crappy Peavey amp."
I recoil in fear from the Peavey brand name, but the Classic 30 is a good amp.
"Saying the Burns BM sounds like a Jackson is kinda harsh."
I really would have to put it down to personal experiences. Most of the more learned guru types who've had a go at my Burns think it's great. I personally like the feel of it, it's a joy to play, I've never really noticed the balance problem that people bring up.
I dunno, my Burns is like any guitar I've had... take care of it, and it'll take care of you!!
"Only a tube amp can do that."
Amen!
Sooo... anyone feel like swapping a 3-tone sunburst BHM with a Burns? :) Gaha.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Daniel Nester wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Brian retreating into Brian May Guitarsland, with the doubling and tripling of guitar prices, is a retreat. In my opinion, he should keep a partnership with Burns --[/QUOTE]
I don't understand the retreating bit. The guitars are well priced and a lot cheaper than when they were initially with Burns. I've seen them at around £450 brand new and I see the US can get them cheaper at £405! So, prices are better than ever.
And now it's under Brian May Guitars Ltd. I can wholeheartedly say they play and sound better than the two Burns I've tried in the past.
I can only guess the tripling of prices is in reference to the 'pro' model mentioned. Nothing wrong with that since the low-end model will still exist and won't be phased out.
There is still a partnership with Burns through the pickups. But I disagree that he should have stayed with them for the guitars. The manufacturing suffered over time and now they're under his company name, suddenly they're a lot better. It's the same plant they used in Korea apparently, so I wonder what happened.
Adam.
I don't understand the retreating bit. The guitars are well priced and a lot cheaper than when they were initially with Burns. I've seen them at around £450 brand new and I see the US can get them cheaper at £405! So, prices are better than ever.
And now it's under Brian May Guitars Ltd. I can wholeheartedly say they play and sound better than the two Burns I've tried in the past.
I can only guess the tripling of prices is in reference to the 'pro' model mentioned. Nothing wrong with that since the low-end model will still exist and won't be phased out.
There is still a partnership with Burns through the pickups. But I disagree that he should have stayed with them for the guitars. The manufacturing suffered over time and now they're under his company name, suddenly they're a lot better. It's the same plant they used in Korea apparently, so I wonder what happened.
Adam.
I think the jury is still out on the Brian May Guitars; that's my main point. My Burns is fantastic, it plays great. It's as good as the Guild in many ways, and definitely in the bang-for-the-buck department.
I suppose I'm wrong about prices. And why a pro model at all? Let's see what happens with distribution, eh?
I will definitely play a BHM BM modem, but lemme tell ya, the Mini May does not bode well. For $250, it's a complete POS.
I suppose I'm wrong about prices. And why a pro model at all? Let's see what happens with distribution, eh?
I will definitely play a BHM BM modem, but lemme tell ya, the Mini May does not bode well. For $250, it's a complete POS.
Zebonka12, I meant his live sound, not his studio sound.
Daniel, the innovations that are on the Red Special are not new, even 40 years ago when Brian created the RS. They'd been done before, Brian just took it to the next level.
http://vintage-hofner.mysite.wanadoo-members.co.uk/solids/sol7.html
http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l145/bhm1890/4575.jpg
Daniel, the innovations that are on the Red Special are not new, even 40 years ago when Brian created the RS. They'd been done before, Brian just took it to the next level.
http://vintage-hofner.mysite.wanadoo-members.co.uk/solids/sol7.html
http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l145/bhm1890/4575.jpg