[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]galileo_figaro_magnifico wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Henry V wrote: [/QUOTENAME]I do prefer that mid-80's hard edge he had on his voice. I find his voice from the innuendo sessions - fantastic range and all - but a little nasal. truly an amazing singner[/QUOTE]
i dunno, maybe it's just me, but do you think Freddie's voice sometimes sounds a little nasal in the 70's as well? not all the time, but on a few occasions...i cant find any examples right now lol, everything i'm trying, he sounds crystal clear, but i notice every now and again...[/QUOTE]
Freddie was human...he did get the flu/cold occasionally. :P
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[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]saltnvinegar wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Pim Derks wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Nodules my ass, I bet they were warts (from all the you know what). [/QUOTE]
Wow, what's with all the references to this subject, are you jealous or something?[/QUOTE]
I think he really is jealous.
Wow, what's with all the references to this subject, are you jealous or something?[/QUOTE]
I think he really is jealous.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<font color=00CCFF>Mercury Lover<h6>HA! wrote: [/QUOTENAME]He had throat nodules. He refused treatment for them, because of the tools they would use to treat them were 'kind of scary' and they would end up coming back anyway.[/QUOTE]
Nodes do not come back if you learn to use your voice correctly, and break the habits that led you to develop nodes in the first place.
Nodes do not come back if you learn to use your voice correctly, and break the habits that led you to develop nodes in the first place.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]beautifulsoup wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<font color=00CCFF>Mercury Lover<h6>HA! wrote: [/QUOTENAME]He had throat nodules. He refused treatment for them, because of the tools they would use to treat them were 'kind of scary' and they would end up coming back anyway.[/QUOTE]
Nodes do not come back if you learn to use your voice correctly, and break the habits that led you to develop nodes in the first place. [/QUOTE]
Are you saying Freddie didn't know how to use his voice? I'm pretty sure he did. Training methods for singers have changed so much. Also, Keep in mind how far medical science has come since the 80's.
Nodes do not come back if you learn to use your voice correctly, and break the habits that led you to develop nodes in the first place. [/QUOTE]
Are you saying Freddie didn't know how to use his voice? I'm pretty sure he did. Training methods for singers have changed so much. Also, Keep in mind how far medical science has come since the 80's.
I think it might have something to do with the course of the disease. Not a hundred percent sure but it may also be down to the fact that he gave up smoking because of his health.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<font color=0099FF>Mercury Lover<h6>HA! wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]beautifulsoup wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<font color=00CCFF>Mercury Lover<h6>HA! wrote: [/QUOTENAME]He had throat nodules. He refused treatment for them, because of the tools they would use to treat them were 'kind of scary' and they would end up coming back anyway.[/QUOTE]
Nodes do not come back if you learn to use your voice correctly, and break the habits that led you to develop nodes in the first place. [/QUOTE]
Are you saying Freddie didn't know how to use his voice? I'm pretty sure he did. Training methods for singers have changed so much. Also, Keep in mind how far medical science has come since the 80's. [/QUOTE]
He could have used his voice much better than he did. I'll leave it at that. :)
Nodes do not come back if you learn to use your voice correctly, and break the habits that led you to develop nodes in the first place. [/QUOTE]
Are you saying Freddie didn't know how to use his voice? I'm pretty sure he did. Training methods for singers have changed so much. Also, Keep in mind how far medical science has come since the 80's. [/QUOTE]
He could have used his voice much better than he did. I'll leave it at that. :)
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<font color=0099FF>Mercury Lover<h6>HA! wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]beautifulsoup wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<font color=00CCFF>Mercury Lover<h6>HA! wrote: [/QUOTENAME]He had throat nodules. He refused treatment for them, because of the tools they would use to treat them were 'kind of scary' and they would end up coming back anyway.[/QUOTE]
Nodes do not come back if you learn to use your voice correctly, and break the habits that led you to develop nodes in the first place. [/QUOTE]
Are you saying Freddie didn't know how to use his voice? I'm pretty sure he did. Training methods for singers have changed so much. Also, Keep in mind how far medical science has come since the 80's. [/QUOTE]
Thats right, Freddie didn't know how to use his voice. Thats why he couldn't sing the higher notes live, and why he used to shout a lot (especially in the Works and Magic tour.
And also why the first few concerts had Freddie in great vocal shape and then the rest was always not very good.
Freddie never had vocal lessons. Some people say Freddie took some vocal lessons when he was recording Barcelona which might be true. But he certainly never had a vocal coach or whatever before 1987.
Nodes do not come back if you learn to use your voice correctly, and break the habits that led you to develop nodes in the first place. [/QUOTE]
Are you saying Freddie didn't know how to use his voice? I'm pretty sure he did. Training methods for singers have changed so much. Also, Keep in mind how far medical science has come since the 80's. [/QUOTE]
Thats right, Freddie didn't know how to use his voice. Thats why he couldn't sing the higher notes live, and why he used to shout a lot (especially in the Works and Magic tour.
And also why the first few concerts had Freddie in great vocal shape and then the rest was always not very good.
Freddie never had vocal lessons. Some people say Freddie took some vocal lessons when he was recording Barcelona which might be true. But he certainly never had a vocal coach or whatever before 1987.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]mattsmith wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Heaven for everyone was on Made in heaven, not Innuendo.
The difference in the way Freddie sings is actually quite big, even from the miracle, to innuendo which was a gap of about 18 months to 2 years.
I believe that his voice in the 90's went back to the way it was in the early to mid 70's, delivered with a soaring power and immense range.
Just my opinion though.
Matt.[/QUOTE]Made in heaven was recorded for Rogers solo project Shove it with The Cross. Just after the Magic tour if I remember it right. Oh my god I´m such a nerd...
The difference in the way Freddie sings is actually quite big, even from the miracle, to innuendo which was a gap of about 18 months to 2 years.
I believe that his voice in the 90's went back to the way it was in the early to mid 70's, delivered with a soaring power and immense range.
Just my opinion though.
Matt.[/QUOTE]Made in heaven was recorded for Rogers solo project Shove it with The Cross. Just after the Magic tour if I remember it right. Oh my god I´m such a nerd...
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]henke1980 wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]mattsmith wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Heaven for everyone was on Made in heaven, not Innuendo.
The difference in the way Freddie sings is actually quite big, even from the miracle, to innuendo which was a gap of about 18 months to 2 years.
I believe that his voice in the 90's went back to the way it was in the early to mid 70's, delivered with a soaring power and immense range.
Just my opinion though.
Matt.[/QUOTE]Made in heaven was recorded for Rogers solo project Shove it with The Cross. Just after the Magic tour if I remember it right. Oh my god I´m such a nerd...[/QUOTE]Oh, sorry...you know what I mean...
The difference in the way Freddie sings is actually quite big, even from the miracle, to innuendo which was a gap of about 18 months to 2 years.
I believe that his voice in the 90's went back to the way it was in the early to mid 70's, delivered with a soaring power and immense range.
Just my opinion though.
Matt.[/QUOTE]Made in heaven was recorded for Rogers solo project Shove it with The Cross. Just after the Magic tour if I remember it right. Oh my god I´m such a nerd...[/QUOTE]Oh, sorry...you know what I mean...
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Daniel Nester wrote: [/QUOTENAME]I think Innuendo is probably a bad place to start looking at how Freddie's voice changed over the years. A lot of those tracks are from his solo recordings, Heaven for Everyone is from The Cross sessions, and still others are from the mid-80s. It might be better to look at how his voice changes from Hot Space --> Works --> A Kind of Magic. To my ears, there's lots of changes in tenor and in range in that time period. Perhaps he smoked even more? Or drank? Some of it, I am sure, is natural as the body gets older.[/QUOTE]
Okay...okay I thought things were bad before I left but atleast people had basic Queen knowledge, this idiot just confused Innuendo with Made in Heaven... geeeeeeeeeeeshhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Okay...okay I thought things were bad before I left but atleast people had basic Queen knowledge, this idiot just confused Innuendo with Made in Heaven... geeeeeeeeeeeshhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Kiki2 wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Maybe because he stopped drinking and smoking. In Innuendo, his voice looked more like the voice he had in the 70's...[/QUOTE]
OMG, you people. Freddie didn't stop drinking, vodka aided him to be able to record at that period. He was smoking well in to 1991, his voice sounded better because they werent touring. End of discussion. I shouldve stopped by here a month ago and this thread wouldnt have been 3 pages long.
Official un asshole answer:
His voice probably sounded better because they weren't touring. I think Freddie's best vocal period was News of the World era but he didn't just go for it like he did on Innuendo. If you take snippets of Spread your Wings and it's Late his highs are almost similar than on Innuendo. His voice was well rested and he wanted to go out with a bang.
OMG, you people. Freddie didn't stop drinking, vodka aided him to be able to record at that period. He was smoking well in to 1991, his voice sounded better because they werent touring. End of discussion. I shouldve stopped by here a month ago and this thread wouldnt have been 3 pages long.
Official un asshole answer:
His voice probably sounded better because they weren't touring. I think Freddie's best vocal period was News of the World era but he didn't just go for it like he did on Innuendo. If you take snippets of Spread your Wings and it's Late his highs are almost similar than on Innuendo. His voice was well rested and he wanted to go out with a bang.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Bijou In Queens Crown wrote: [/QUOTENAME]I think Freddie's voice around '91 is a mix between husky and rough and pure and delicate.
On songs like 'Don't Try So Hard' it could have been recorded in the 70s to me. But on 'Hitman' it sounds quite rough like you can tell he's straining on the one and he does sound quite bad. 'The Show Must Go On' is very pure then at the end it has bits where it sounds like he's straining. But on 'Bijou' it's sounds so delicate and fragile.
But if you listen to the first album then Innuendo there are obvious differences. I know it's obvious but he sounds alot older in some ways on 'Innuendo'.[/QUOTE]
I don't think it sounds that way at all. And if it did, Freddie would of noticed it and re-did it until he got it to be the best.
On songs like 'Don't Try So Hard' it could have been recorded in the 70s to me. But on 'Hitman' it sounds quite rough like you can tell he's straining on the one and he does sound quite bad. 'The Show Must Go On' is very pure then at the end it has bits where it sounds like he's straining. But on 'Bijou' it's sounds so delicate and fragile.
But if you listen to the first album then Innuendo there are obvious differences. I know it's obvious but he sounds alot older in some ways on 'Innuendo'.[/QUOTE]
I don't think it sounds that way at all. And if it did, Freddie would of noticed it and re-did it until he got it to be the best.
I agree with Fried Chicken that Freddie didn't know how to use his voice because he never took lessons and was not trained to be a profesional singer. But if he had taken voice lessons maybe he would not have sang with that rough, edgy voice that he used for the rock songs.
I think that the voice lessons would have come in handy for the live concerts so he wouldn't have resorted to screaming like he did in some songs. Maybe that's the reason that I don't like too much to listen to the live concerts cds. His persona, charisma and performance carried him in the concerts not so much his voice.
Despite this he had a wonderful, heavenly, spell bounding voice and he knew how to use it in different ways to give each song the mood, and the force each song needed it and transmit it.
A group of many things may have affected his voice in the 90-91 period, maybe the stopping smoking, his illness, the weight loss, etc.
Now I have to pay more attention to the different albums and observe the difference.
I think that the voice lessons would have come in handy for the live concerts so he wouldn't have resorted to screaming like he did in some songs. Maybe that's the reason that I don't like too much to listen to the live concerts cds. His persona, charisma and performance carried him in the concerts not so much his voice.
Despite this he had a wonderful, heavenly, spell bounding voice and he knew how to use it in different ways to give each song the mood, and the force each song needed it and transmit it.
A group of many things may have affected his voice in the 90-91 period, maybe the stopping smoking, his illness, the weight loss, etc.
Now I have to pay more attention to the different albums and observe the difference.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]MamaQueen wrote: [/QUOTENAME]I agree with Fried Chicken that Freddie didn't know how to use his voice because he never took lessons and was not trained to be a profesional singer. But if he had taken voice lessons maybe he would not have sang with that rough, edgy voice that he used for the rock songs.
I think that the voice lessons would have come in handy for the live concerts so he wouldn't have resorted to screaming like he did in some songs. Maybe that's the reason that I don't like too much to listen to the live concerts cds. His persona, charisma and performance carried him in the concerts not so much his voice.
Despite this he had a wonderful, heavenly, spell bounding voice and he knew how to use it in different ways to give each song the mood, and the force each song needed it and transmit it.
A group of many things may have affected his voice in the 90-91 period, maybe the stopping smoking, his illness, the weight loss, etc.
Now I have to pay more attention to the different albums and observe the difference.[/QUOTE]
Steven Tyler has had many lessons and he sings with a rock voice. Brian Wilson has a vocal coach as well!
I think that the voice lessons would have come in handy for the live concerts so he wouldn't have resorted to screaming like he did in some songs. Maybe that's the reason that I don't like too much to listen to the live concerts cds. His persona, charisma and performance carried him in the concerts not so much his voice.
Despite this he had a wonderful, heavenly, spell bounding voice and he knew how to use it in different ways to give each song the mood, and the force each song needed it and transmit it.
A group of many things may have affected his voice in the 90-91 period, maybe the stopping smoking, his illness, the weight loss, etc.
Now I have to pay more attention to the different albums and observe the difference.[/QUOTE]
Steven Tyler has had many lessons and he sings with a rock voice. Brian Wilson has a vocal coach as well!
most of the songs freddie sang on the innuendo album were sang in head voice which is why he has such power and range on this album. weight loss and the fact he stopped smoking will have had a big effect on his voice.
if u want detail info on freddie's voice thoughout his career then look no further than here.
http://www.f-mercury.com.ar/frames_eng.htm
great website.
if u want detail info on freddie's voice thoughout his career then look no further than here.
http://www.f-mercury.com.ar/frames_eng.htm
great website.