I think that A Night At The Opera is over-rated. Queen were at their best during the early years. Queen II was an absolute masterpiece, and Sheer Heart Attack was even better. Queen (the album) was substantially better than "The Game" which some argue to be one of their best. Queen redeemed themselves with News Of The World, but it wasn't the same. News Of The World would work better as an album if the first two tracks (We Will Rock You and We Are The Champions) had been the last two tracks. but with songs that seem to end an album at the beginning, I am constantly reaching for the next button on my stereo. Somehow, they redeemed themselves again on Innuendo, but this sounded like a third rate Guns And Roses tribute band had attempted to make a carbon copy of Queen II without getting sued.
I know you are going to flame me for insulting "the greatest band in the land" but I don't fucking care. nothing about being a Queen fan requires me to love every single album.
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You are entitled to your opinion. I wonder where it comes from when I look into your profile, though:
Favorite Band Member: Brian May
Favorite Album: A Night at the Opera
Became a Queen fan: March 2005
Favorite Band Member: Brian May
Favorite Album: A Night at the Opera
Became a Queen fan: March 2005
I haven't updated that in ages
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<i>Donny Mars wrote: [/QUOTENAME]I change my mind a lot[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<i>Donny Mars wrote: [/QUOTENAME]I think that A Night At The Opera is over-rated. Queen were at their best during the early years. Queen II was an absolute masterpiece, and Sheer Heart Attack was even better. Queen (the album) was substantially better than "The Game" which some argue to be one of their best. Queen redeemed themselves with News Of The World, but it wasn't the same. News Of The World would work better as an album if the first two tracks (We Will Rock You and We Are The Champions) had been the last two tracks. but with songs that seem to end an album at the beginning, I am constantly reaching for the next button on my stereo. Somehow, they redeemed themselves again on Innuendo, but this sounded like a third rate Guns And Roses tribute band had attempted to make a carbon copy of Queen II without getting sued.
I know you are going to flame me for insulting "the greatest band in the land" but I don't fucking care. nothing about being a Queen fan requires me to love every single album. [/QUOTE]
This is hardly a "fresh" idea. This argument has existed for a long while, and you realize this now? And if I may add, your ignorance is apparent. There was no need to stoop so low as to resort to profanity.
I know you are going to flame me for insulting "the greatest band in the land" but I don't fucking care. nothing about being a Queen fan requires me to love every single album. [/QUOTE]
This is hardly a "fresh" idea. This argument has existed for a long while, and you realize this now? And if I may add, your ignorance is apparent. There was no need to stoop so low as to resort to profanity.
Queen were always good in the 70s. But you're right. I think after the Sheer Heart Attack album, Queen became less of a metal / experimental band, and more of a conventional pop/rock commercial band where they tried to write hit singles in order to sell records. The quality was still there, but they lost some artistic earnesty of their early albums, and they never recovered it. During the 80s, they became even more of an egregiously pop/commercial band. But they were masters at creating hit songs. And the fans wanted exactly what Queen were creating.
One thing that Queen should have tried to do later on in their career was to write a rock opera. They had the talent to do it. Sadly, that will never happen.
One thing that Queen should have tried to do later on in their career was to write a rock opera. They had the talent to do it. Sadly, that will never happen.
how do you write hits????
you start an album and say: ok these 9 songs gonna be "normal" and these tree gonna be "hits"??...
Now I´m gonna sit down and write 5 hits and become millonaire in one week...
jezzz...
P.
you start an album and say: ok these 9 songs gonna be "normal" and these tree gonna be "hits"??...
Now I´m gonna sit down and write 5 hits and become millonaire in one week...
jezzz...
P.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<i>Donny Mars wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Queen redeemed themselves with News Of The World, but it wasn't the same. News Of The World would work better as an album if the first two tracks (We Will Rock You and We Are The Champions) had been the last two tracks. but with songs that seem to end an album at the beginning, I am constantly reaching for the next button on my stereo. [/QUOTE]
I was going to say something about this before, but felt it wasn't important to say. However, I do believe it deserves somewhat of a discussion now, or whatever. Listen, it would have been idiotic when producing the album to put those two tracks at the end. For heaven's sake, it's "We Will Rock You," not "We Just Rocked You." Perhaps they could have put "We Are The Champions" at the end of the album by itself, but that might have changed the course of history for Queen. I do realize that at most their concerts they put We Will Rock You/We Are The Champions at the end, however when producing the album they hadn't exactly performed those two songs as a tradition just yet.
I was going to say something about this before, but felt it wasn't important to say. However, I do believe it deserves somewhat of a discussion now, or whatever. Listen, it would have been idiotic when producing the album to put those two tracks at the end. For heaven's sake, it's "We Will Rock You," not "We Just Rocked You." Perhaps they could have put "We Are The Champions" at the end of the album by itself, but that might have changed the course of history for Queen. I do realize that at most their concerts they put We Will Rock You/We Are The Champions at the end, however when producing the album they hadn't exactly performed those two songs as a tradition just yet.
I loved "Innuendo" and I would pick it as their "best". Maybe wrongly, maybe because how I feel about music as art. I don't think it was trying to be a "carbon copy" of anything. I think perhaps they were maturing and took things they learned together. I also love "The Miracle" - and I can see a sort of "lead up" to "Innuendo" there.
I agree wholeheartedly with Freddie - I don't remember when he said it, or what it was part of - but he said that the band had already grown and done better than "Bohemian Rhapsody". I think this was "Day at the Races" time, but I'm not sure.
Stephen King also said something to the effect of, "It kind of bothers me when people say my best work was thirty years ago and that I can only go downhill".
I think creative people can certainly "decline" - but I think what Queen did was a choice. Do you think that if Queen had stuck to "Prog-Fantasy-Fairy-Rock" people would still give a shit today ? I guess it's possible, but I think they would have stagnated and people would have gotten tired of them. People like Madonna and Bowie because they "change". If Ziggy Stardust had tried to keep going, he could well have gotten boring and outlived his welcome.
But, whatever.
I agree wholeheartedly with Freddie - I don't remember when he said it, or what it was part of - but he said that the band had already grown and done better than "Bohemian Rhapsody". I think this was "Day at the Races" time, but I'm not sure.
Stephen King also said something to the effect of, "It kind of bothers me when people say my best work was thirty years ago and that I can only go downhill".
I think creative people can certainly "decline" - but I think what Queen did was a choice. Do you think that if Queen had stuck to "Prog-Fantasy-Fairy-Rock" people would still give a shit today ? I guess it's possible, but I think they would have stagnated and people would have gotten tired of them. People like Madonna and Bowie because they "change". If Ziggy Stardust had tried to keep going, he could well have gotten boring and outlived his welcome.
But, whatever.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]masterstroke_84 wrote: [/QUOTENAME]how do you write hits????
you start an album and say: ok these 9 songs gonna be "normal" and these tree gonna be "hits"??...
Now I´m gonna sit down and write 5 hits and become millonaire in one week...
jezzz...
P.[/QUOTE]
omg, i am always thinking about that! it's like for the news of the world album..."Ok, WWRY and WATC are gonna be hits, so let's put them at the beginning of the album."
?
this is strange to me.
speaking of hits, what i don't understand is why bohemian rhapsody is so great but people fail to realize how very similar it is to march of the black queen. can someone explain this to me?
you start an album and say: ok these 9 songs gonna be "normal" and these tree gonna be "hits"??...
Now I´m gonna sit down and write 5 hits and become millonaire in one week...
jezzz...
P.[/QUOTE]
omg, i am always thinking about that! it's like for the news of the world album..."Ok, WWRY and WATC are gonna be hits, so let's put them at the beginning of the album."
?
this is strange to me.
speaking of hits, what i don't understand is why bohemian rhapsody is so great but people fail to realize how very similar it is to march of the black queen. can someone explain this to me?
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]queen4eva224 wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]masterstroke_84 wrote: [/QUOTENAME]how do you write hits????
you start an album and say: ok these 9 songs gonna be "normal" and these tree gonna be "hits"??...
Now I´m gonna sit down and write 5 hits and become millonaire in one week...
jezzz...
P.[/QUOTE]
omg, i am always thinking about that! it's like for the news of the world album..."Ok, WWRY and WATC are gonna be hits, so let's put them at the beginning of the album."
?
this is strange to me.
speaking of hits, what i don't understand is why bohemian rhapsody is so great but people fail to realize how very similar it is to march of the black queen. can someone explain this to me? [/QUOTE]
How is BohRhap similiar to March of the Black Queen?
you start an album and say: ok these 9 songs gonna be "normal" and these tree gonna be "hits"??...
Now I´m gonna sit down and write 5 hits and become millonaire in one week...
jezzz...
P.[/QUOTE]
omg, i am always thinking about that! it's like for the news of the world album..."Ok, WWRY and WATC are gonna be hits, so let's put them at the beginning of the album."
?
this is strange to me.
speaking of hits, what i don't understand is why bohemian rhapsody is so great but people fail to realize how very similar it is to march of the black queen. can someone explain this to me? [/QUOTE]
How is BohRhap similiar to March of the Black Queen?
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]SomebodyWhoLoves wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]queen4eva224 wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]masterstroke_84 wrote: [/QUOTENAME]how do you write hits????
you start an album and say: ok these 9 songs gonna be "normal" and these tree gonna be "hits"??...
Now I´m gonna sit down and write 5 hits and become millonaire in one week...
jezzz...
P.[/QUOTE]
omg, i am always thinking about that! it's like for the news of the world album..."Ok, WWRY and WATC are gonna be hits, so let's put them at the beginning of the album."
?
this is strange to me.
speaking of hits, what i don't understand is why bohemian rhapsody is so great but people fail to realize how very similar it is to march of the black queen. can someone explain this to me? [/QUOTE]
How is BohRhap similiar to March of the Black Queen?[/QUOTE]
idk, to me they seem simliar. i don't know how to describe it. um...they're both different in an awesome way. there's not really a chorus for either of them. i mean, they both change a lot throughout the song, they don't stay the same for too long. you know what i mean? god, i knew this would be hard to explain. yargh.
you start an album and say: ok these 9 songs gonna be "normal" and these tree gonna be "hits"??...
Now I´m gonna sit down and write 5 hits and become millonaire in one week...
jezzz...
P.[/QUOTE]
omg, i am always thinking about that! it's like for the news of the world album..."Ok, WWRY and WATC are gonna be hits, so let's put them at the beginning of the album."
?
this is strange to me.
speaking of hits, what i don't understand is why bohemian rhapsody is so great but people fail to realize how very similar it is to march of the black queen. can someone explain this to me? [/QUOTE]
How is BohRhap similiar to March of the Black Queen?[/QUOTE]
idk, to me they seem simliar. i don't know how to describe it. um...they're both different in an awesome way. there's not really a chorus for either of them. i mean, they both change a lot throughout the song, they don't stay the same for too long. you know what i mean? god, i knew this would be hard to explain. yargh.
^They are both some form of progressive rock, I suppose...
They both use some of the same recording techniques...
They both are real long...
I guess. That's what I think, anyways. (:
They both use some of the same recording techniques...
They both are real long...
I guess. That's what I think, anyways. (:
... "The March of the Black Queen", to me is definitely a step on the way to "Bohemian Rhapsody".
They both have the changes in style that take you on a sort of "journey".
The difference I feel is that "Bohemian Rhapsody" is more "one song" with "The March of the Black Queen" is a bit more choppy (which isn't necessarily "worse").
I also feel that "My Fairy King" and "The Millionaire Waltz" and probably something I'm forgetting are "related" to "Bohemian Rhapsody".
They just have the same sort of multi-part music journey thing going on.
They both have the changes in style that take you on a sort of "journey".
The difference I feel is that "Bohemian Rhapsody" is more "one song" with "The March of the Black Queen" is a bit more choppy (which isn't necessarily "worse").
I also feel that "My Fairy King" and "The Millionaire Waltz" and probably something I'm forgetting are "related" to "Bohemian Rhapsody".
They just have the same sort of multi-part music journey thing going on.
I think Freddie said that he took three songs and put them together to make Bohrap. It does sound like one of those early Queen medleys.
Actually, in Queen II, a lot of those songs, especially on the black side sound like medleys where you have songs that lead into another song as if it is one long song.
BohRhap is the same way. It starts off with a beautiful soft song that leads into a crazy bizarre "operatic" section that explodes into a hard rock riff before finally fading back softly. It's a very strange yet beautiful song in which only Freddie could pull off. It's almost orgasmic. The entire song builds and builds and finally there is a climax.
If you put Nevermore and March of the Black Queen together, it sort of is a BohRhap. Nevermore is a beautiful soft song that fades into a harder, edgier, climactic March of the Black Queen song.
I can't decide which I like better: Never More + March, or BohRhap.
Actually, in Queen II, a lot of those songs, especially on the black side sound like medleys where you have songs that lead into another song as if it is one long song.
BohRhap is the same way. It starts off with a beautiful soft song that leads into a crazy bizarre "operatic" section that explodes into a hard rock riff before finally fading back softly. It's a very strange yet beautiful song in which only Freddie could pull off. It's almost orgasmic. The entire song builds and builds and finally there is a climax.
If you put Nevermore and March of the Black Queen together, it sort of is a BohRhap. Nevermore is a beautiful soft song that fades into a harder, edgier, climactic March of the Black Queen song.
I can't decide which I like better: Never More + March, or BohRhap.