You daft bastards.
Course its Churchill.
If Johnny Foreigner didn't surrender at the first sign of a Bratwurst he wouldn't have needed to save Europe.
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[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Sir Archie Leach wrote: [/QUOTENAME]You daft bastards.
Course its Churchill.
If Johnny Foreigner didn't surrender at the first sign of a Bratwurst he wouldn't have needed to save Europe.
[/QUOTE]
Ah, right. So apart from the fact that Britain was helpless without:
a) the supply-convoys from the US right down from the first days in '40
b) the Red Army in the east
c) the Free French in North Africa
d) the Americans to make sure you could hold on to your island, and actually get off it
Well, yes, apart from that, you are almost right. Then, I would like to point out how hard the Belgians fought, to name but one of the peoples who resisted, AND I would like to point out that it was also your country that sold Chechoslowakia to Adolf.
Course its Churchill.
If Johnny Foreigner didn't surrender at the first sign of a Bratwurst he wouldn't have needed to save Europe.
[/QUOTE]
Ah, right. So apart from the fact that Britain was helpless without:
a) the supply-convoys from the US right down from the first days in '40
b) the Red Army in the east
c) the Free French in North Africa
d) the Americans to make sure you could hold on to your island, and actually get off it
Well, yes, apart from that, you are almost right. Then, I would like to point out how hard the Belgians fought, to name but one of the peoples who resisted, AND I would like to point out that it was also your country that sold Chechoslowakia to Adolf.
I think you'll find it wasn't my country that sold 'Chechoslowakia' (wherever that may be) down the swanny.
Who brokered deals to keep supplies coming to Britain and Russia from the US?
Who made sure victory in Europe was seen as the priority (although God knows why)rather than the Pacific?
Who urged on the Americans to take Berlin before the Russians got to it, for fear of the consequences?
First Honourary Citizen of the US anybody?
I don't think it was Hercule Poirot or Tin Tin, although you probably know otherwise.
Who brokered deals to keep supplies coming to Britain and Russia from the US?
Who made sure victory in Europe was seen as the priority (although God knows why)rather than the Pacific?
Who urged on the Americans to take Berlin before the Russians got to it, for fear of the consequences?
First Honourary Citizen of the US anybody?
I don't think it was Hercule Poirot or Tin Tin, although you probably know otherwise.
Tin Tin is the worst thing to come out of France.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]joxerthegoosefatpirate wrote: [/QUOTENAME]thatcher the snatcher fucked this country over big time.blair just put the final nail in the coffin.
i would say lloyd george for me[/QUOTE]
Umm....aren't we being a bit over-dramatic here? The country is not dying...the final nail is not in the coffin. And yes, I'd even say that about the US. You are just in a major transition period. Happens to every country at some point, and everyone always seems to think the country is done whenever it does. We are in a major transition period too...so is France, and so are a lot of other countries in the world. I may get cynical sometimes, but can't we at least have a glimmer of hope before we shit on everything?
i would say lloyd george for me[/QUOTE]
Umm....aren't we being a bit over-dramatic here? The country is not dying...the final nail is not in the coffin. And yes, I'd even say that about the US. You are just in a major transition period. Happens to every country at some point, and everyone always seems to think the country is done whenever it does. We are in a major transition period too...so is France, and so are a lot of other countries in the world. I may get cynical sometimes, but can't we at least have a glimmer of hope before we shit on everything?
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]iGSM wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Tin Tin is the worst thing to come out of France.[/QUOTE]
Almost. His author Hergé is: a fanatical rexist (catholic fascism) and collaborator.
Almost. His author Hergé is: a fanatical rexist (catholic fascism) and collaborator.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]CMU HistoryGirl wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]joxerthegoosefatpirate wrote: [/QUOTENAME]thatcher the snatcher fucked this country over big time.blair just put the final nail in the coffin.
i would say lloyd george for me[/QUOTE]
Umm....aren't we being a bit over-dramatic here? The country is not dying...the final nail is not in the coffin. And yes, I'd even say that about the US. You are just in a major transition period. Happens to every country at some point, and everyone always seems to think the country is done whenever it does. We are in a major transition period too...so is France, and so are a lot of other countries in the world. I may get cynical sometimes, but can't we at least have a glimmer of hope before we shit on everything?[/QUOTE]
Hope's for the next decade. This is the European '50s on a world-scale.
i would say lloyd george for me[/QUOTE]
Umm....aren't we being a bit over-dramatic here? The country is not dying...the final nail is not in the coffin. And yes, I'd even say that about the US. You are just in a major transition period. Happens to every country at some point, and everyone always seems to think the country is done whenever it does. We are in a major transition period too...so is France, and so are a lot of other countries in the world. I may get cynical sometimes, but can't we at least have a glimmer of hope before we shit on everything?[/QUOTE]
Hope's for the next decade. This is the European '50s on a world-scale.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Sir Archie Leach wrote: [/QUOTENAME]I think you'll find it wasn't my country that sold 'Chechoslowakia' (wherever that may be) down the swanny.[/QUOTE]
If you had the brain to open a history book, you'd find that it was Britain, in the person of Chamberlain, of your precious Tory-dung heap, who sold the Czechs to Hitler at the '38 Munich Conference. You know, the one after which he told the people "peace with dignity, peace in our time" about a year before it turned out that Hitler was more of an immediate danger than Russia after all.
[QUOTE]Who brokered deals to keep supplies coming to Britain and Russia from the US?[/QUOTE]
Roosevelt, actually.
[QUOTE]Who made sure victory in Europe was seen as the priority (although God knows why)rather than the Pacific?[/QUOTE]
That was the British Army more than Churchill, really. Not to mention the fact that part of the White House, too, had their share in that.
[QUOTE]Who urged on the Americans to take Berlin before the Russians got to it, for fear of the consequences?[/QUOTE]
Yes, and what consequences were they? The relationship was fine until Khrushchev started stumbling around, and seeing how he was rather a buffoon, he'd have caused shit anyway.
If you had the brain to open a history book, you'd find that it was Britain, in the person of Chamberlain, of your precious Tory-dung heap, who sold the Czechs to Hitler at the '38 Munich Conference. You know, the one after which he told the people "peace with dignity, peace in our time" about a year before it turned out that Hitler was more of an immediate danger than Russia after all.
[QUOTE]Who brokered deals to keep supplies coming to Britain and Russia from the US?[/QUOTE]
Roosevelt, actually.
[QUOTE]Who made sure victory in Europe was seen as the priority (although God knows why)rather than the Pacific?[/QUOTE]
That was the British Army more than Churchill, really. Not to mention the fact that part of the White House, too, had their share in that.
[QUOTE]Who urged on the Americans to take Berlin before the Russians got to it, for fear of the consequences?[/QUOTE]
Yes, and what consequences were they? The relationship was fine until Khrushchev started stumbling around, and seeing how he was rather a buffoon, he'd have caused shit anyway.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<b><font color = "crimson"> ThomasQuinn wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]iGSM wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Tin Tin is the worst thing to come out of France.[/QUOTE]
Almost. His author Hergé is: a fanatical rexist (catholic fascism) and collaborator.[/QUOTE]
and from belguim...
Almost. His author Hergé is: a fanatical rexist (catholic fascism) and collaborator.[/QUOTE]
and from belguim...
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]joxerthegoosefatpirate wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<b><font color = "crimson"> ThomasQuinn wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]iGSM wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Tin Tin is the worst thing to come out of France.[/QUOTE]
Almost. His author Hergé is: a fanatical rexist (catholic fascism) and collaborator.[/QUOTE]
and from belguim...[/QUOTE]
Uhu...hence the REXIST. There weren't any outside of Belgium, were there now? In France they'd have been called 'Pétainist(e)s'
Almost. His author Hergé is: a fanatical rexist (catholic fascism) and collaborator.[/QUOTE]
and from belguim...[/QUOTE]
Uhu...hence the REXIST. There weren't any outside of Belgium, were there now? In France they'd have been called 'Pétainist(e)s'
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<b><font color = "crimson"> ThomasQuinn wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]CMU HistoryGirl wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]joxerthegoosefatpirate wrote: [/QUOTENAME]thatcher the snatcher fucked this country over big time.blair just put the final nail in the coffin.
i would say lloyd george for me[/QUOTE]
Umm....aren't we being a bit over-dramatic here? The country is not dying...the final nail is not in the coffin. And yes, I'd even say that about the US. You are just in a major transition period. Happens to every country at some point, and everyone always seems to think the country is done whenever it does. We are in a major transition period too...so is France, and so are a lot of other countries in the world. I may get cynical sometimes, but can't we at least have a glimmer of hope before we shit on everything?[/QUOTE]
Hope's for the next decade. This is the European '50s on a world-scale.[/QUOTE]
It's easy to be pessimistic when you are caught in the middle of something. But you'll find that when viewed from the outside, things aren't as bad as they seem (with a few rare exceptions).
i would say lloyd george for me[/QUOTE]
Umm....aren't we being a bit over-dramatic here? The country is not dying...the final nail is not in the coffin. And yes, I'd even say that about the US. You are just in a major transition period. Happens to every country at some point, and everyone always seems to think the country is done whenever it does. We are in a major transition period too...so is France, and so are a lot of other countries in the world. I may get cynical sometimes, but can't we at least have a glimmer of hope before we shit on everything?[/QUOTE]
Hope's for the next decade. This is the European '50s on a world-scale.[/QUOTE]
It's easy to be pessimistic when you are caught in the middle of something. But you'll find that when viewed from the outside, things aren't as bad as they seem (with a few rare exceptions).
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<b><font color = "crimson"> ThomasQuinn wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]iGSM wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Tin Tin is the worst thing to come out of France.[/QUOTE]
Almost. His author Hergé is: a fanatical rexist (catholic fascism) and collaborator.[/QUOTE]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgm4HGzQdQA
Almost. His author Hergé is: a fanatical rexist (catholic fascism) and collaborator.[/QUOTE]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgm4HGzQdQA
The one from Little Britain.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<b><font color = "crimson"> ThomasQuinn wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]iGSM wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Tin Tin is the worst thing to come out of France.[/QUOTE]
Almost. His author Hergé is: a fanatical rexist (catholic fascism) and collaborator.[/QUOTE]
Looks like someone didn't like 'Tin Tin In The Land Of The Soviets'.
Almost. His author Hergé is: a fanatical rexist (catholic fascism) and collaborator.[/QUOTE]
Looks like someone didn't like 'Tin Tin In The Land Of The Soviets'.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<b><font color = "crimson"> ThomasQuinn wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Sir Archie Leach wrote: [/QUOTENAME]I think you'll find it wasn't my country that sold 'Chechoslowakia' (wherever that may be) down the swanny.[/QUOTE]
If you had the brain to open a history book, you'd find that it was Britain, in the person of Chamberlain, of your precious Tory-dung heap, who sold the Czechs to Hitler at the '38 Munich Conference. You know, the one after which he told the people "peace with dignity, peace in our time" about a year before it turned out that Hitler was more of an immediate danger than Russia after all.
[QUOTE]Who brokered deals to keep supplies coming to Britain and Russia from the US?[/QUOTE]
Roosevelt, actually.
[QUOTE]Who made sure victory in Europe was seen as the priority (although God knows why)rather than the Pacific?[/QUOTE]
That was the British Army more than Churchill, really. Not to mention the fact that part of the White House, too, had their share in that.
[QUOTE]Who urged on the Americans to take Berlin before the Russians got to it, for fear of the consequences?[/QUOTE]
Yes, and what consequences were they? The relationship was fine until Khrushchev started stumbling around, and seeing how he was rather a buffoon, he'd have caused shit anyway. [/QUOTE]
Oh you fuckwit. I like to think I know where Czechoslovakia is and also how to spell it!
Next time you have a history lesson please feel free to check out 'lend/lease' and while you're at it check out who supplied Russia with the tanks to keep them in the war.
And as for the British Army telling WC what to do...absolute hogwash.
Stick to your tiresome Bush bashing.
If you had the brain to open a history book, you'd find that it was Britain, in the person of Chamberlain, of your precious Tory-dung heap, who sold the Czechs to Hitler at the '38 Munich Conference. You know, the one after which he told the people "peace with dignity, peace in our time" about a year before it turned out that Hitler was more of an immediate danger than Russia after all.
[QUOTE]Who brokered deals to keep supplies coming to Britain and Russia from the US?[/QUOTE]
Roosevelt, actually.
[QUOTE]Who made sure victory in Europe was seen as the priority (although God knows why)rather than the Pacific?[/QUOTE]
That was the British Army more than Churchill, really. Not to mention the fact that part of the White House, too, had their share in that.
[QUOTE]Who urged on the Americans to take Berlin before the Russians got to it, for fear of the consequences?[/QUOTE]
Yes, and what consequences were they? The relationship was fine until Khrushchev started stumbling around, and seeing how he was rather a buffoon, he'd have caused shit anyway. [/QUOTE]
Oh you fuckwit. I like to think I know where Czechoslovakia is and also how to spell it!
Next time you have a history lesson please feel free to check out 'lend/lease' and while you're at it check out who supplied Russia with the tanks to keep them in the war.
And as for the British Army telling WC what to do...absolute hogwash.
Stick to your tiresome Bush bashing.