That's all? A web page written by God knows who? Any serious biograph wouldn't agree to answer to stupid questions such as "Where You Raped By Your Father???" "how it was like to make love with Freddie?" (I'm not inventing, look at this page!!). Those people, both the persons who ask and the person who answers are just fucking idiots who only are interested in dreary and morbid details. I can't believe that some people like you promote and believe in what they say.
That's NOT because it is written in a book that it IS true!
They can't be taken seriously! The proof is that the person claims to know where Freddie is buried... ahem...
We have some official biographies and that's enough! Stop wanting to know what is favorite sex position was, if it was painful when he died...
And for God sake stop believing that if someone is homosexual, it's only because he has been raped. That's an old 1820 vision of homosexuality and I like to think that humanity evolved since then.
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[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Kiki2 wrote: [/QUOTENAME]That's all? A web page written by God knows who? Any serious biograph wouldn't agree to answer to stupid questions such as "Where You Raped By Your Father???" "how it was like to make love with Freddie?" (I'm not inventing, look at this page!!). Those people, both the persons who ask and the person who answers are just fucking idiots who only are interested in dreary and morbid details. I can't believe that some people like you promote and believe in what they say.
That's NOT because it is written in a book that it IS true!
They can't be taken seriously! The proof is that the person claims to know where Freddie is buried... ahem...
We have some official biographies and that's enough! Stop wanting to know what is favorite sex position was, if it was painful when he died...
And for God sake stop believing that if someone is homosexual, it's only because he has been raped. That's an old 1820 vision of homosexuality and I like to think that humanity evolved since then.[/QUOTE]
I'm sure we all appreciate your contribution, as I'm sure some people hadn't thought of this, but the way you came accross was not only obnoxious, but it was also egotistical. "Hey guys! Look at me, I know something you don't know!"
I'm not trying to be mean either, I think you should be aware of the way you're coming across. If you have something useful to say, why not just say it? And not call everybody an "idiot" for maybe not having been knowledgeable of the idea you thought up. What you could have said was something like this:
I understand why some of you people might believe this, but you should also be aware of the fact that these are only internet sources. I don't suggest trusting them 100%. Also, why not just read the official biographies and go by what Freddie Mercury has said about his life? Those, in my opinion, are the only trust worthy sources to obtain real facts about Freddie Mercury and Queen.
There you have it. You can ignore me if you wish to, you can even beat me down with childish retaliations, or you could actually take advantage of what I've said for future discussions. It is up to you, my friend. Take it or leave it.
That's NOT because it is written in a book that it IS true!
They can't be taken seriously! The proof is that the person claims to know where Freddie is buried... ahem...
We have some official biographies and that's enough! Stop wanting to know what is favorite sex position was, if it was painful when he died...
And for God sake stop believing that if someone is homosexual, it's only because he has been raped. That's an old 1820 vision of homosexuality and I like to think that humanity evolved since then.[/QUOTE]
I'm sure we all appreciate your contribution, as I'm sure some people hadn't thought of this, but the way you came accross was not only obnoxious, but it was also egotistical. "Hey guys! Look at me, I know something you don't know!"
I'm not trying to be mean either, I think you should be aware of the way you're coming across. If you have something useful to say, why not just say it? And not call everybody an "idiot" for maybe not having been knowledgeable of the idea you thought up. What you could have said was something like this:
I understand why some of you people might believe this, but you should also be aware of the fact that these are only internet sources. I don't suggest trusting them 100%. Also, why not just read the official biographies and go by what Freddie Mercury has said about his life? Those, in my opinion, are the only trust worthy sources to obtain real facts about Freddie Mercury and Queen.
There you have it. You can ignore me if you wish to, you can even beat me down with childish retaliations, or you could actually take advantage of what I've said for future discussions. It is up to you, my friend. Take it or leave it.
Is "Jesus" from "Queen I" not about falacio? (Or oral sex however you spell it). "All going down, all going down."
The people who are so adamant about Freddie's sexuality not being a big deal always then say we shouldn't discuss it and just enjoy the music. If it's truly not a big deal, then what's the harm in discussing it?
Ok so sorry but it is about the fifth time that someone gives me a link to this website. So many people trust what they read on the internet. And I rather was angry against the people who wrote this page (that is them that I called "fucking idiots" not you of course. What's more, I think that your main question (gay themes in queen songs) can be interesting). It is full of huuuge mistakes and I can't stand to see this website promoted by people who say that they respect Freddie.
It's just the way people talk about this. To analyse some lyrics can be fun but when it comes to things like "who gave him AIDS" I go crazy, I just can't help it.
"Those, in my opinion, are the only trust worthy sources to obtain real facts about Freddie Mercury and Queen." I'm glad to read this. So we could now stop to give attention to the website we talked about.
Then again, you are not the "idiot", I was talking about the person(s?) who made he website and I'm sorry if you tought it was you.
(on the contrary I absolutely do not regret what I said about this person, I even think that I was being too kind)
It's just the way people talk about this. To analyse some lyrics can be fun but when it comes to things like "who gave him AIDS" I go crazy, I just can't help it.
"Those, in my opinion, are the only trust worthy sources to obtain real facts about Freddie Mercury and Queen." I'm glad to read this. So we could now stop to give attention to the website we talked about.
Then again, you are not the "idiot", I was talking about the person(s?) who made he website and I'm sorry if you tought it was you.
(on the contrary I absolutely do not regret what I said about this person, I even think that I was being too kind)
^Glad to hear it. :)
So, he was gay. Who gives a fuck? It's all good music.
... dim recollections of an interview where Brian mentioned complaining to Freddie, during some studio session, that Freddie's songwriting was beginning to lean too explicitly towards homosexuality, while the band had always strived to make their songs readable "both ways" that far ...
No idea where and when the interview was, though...
No idea where and when the interview was, though...
^I'm very intrigued by what you've just said. Personally, I've probably seen most if not all of the interviews that the general public can obtain and have not once heard Brian May say anything like that. If you ever get the slightest realization of where you might have heard it from please let us know!
yes, please do because that sounds very interesting
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<font color=FF0033 face=symbol>Freddie wrote: [/QUOTENAME]If you ever get the slightest realization of where you might have heard it from please let us know![/QUOTE]It was surely in writing and on the Web, several months ago.
No longer sure it was an interview, though, because I generally save interviews and articles on my PC, but I could not find it there.
Must have been a note on his Soapbox - possibly about Body Language.
Can't check at the moment, sorry.
No longer sure it was an interview, though, because I generally save interviews and articles on my PC, but I could not find it there.
Must have been a note on his Soapbox - possibly about Body Language.
Can't check at the moment, sorry.
hmmm, the homosexual signs in queen music, ok let's see, well in don't stop me now, you can hear i wanna make a supersonic man outta you, that's definetely gay, las palabras de amor is not gay but 100% refers to sex when it goes: despacito mi amor which means slowly my dear, apparently hahaha freddie was very agressive in his way to make love meaning very macho, body language is very sexual too....anyway it's obvious that mercury was gay not because of these signs but everybody knows hes got many male lovers, and anyone with an iq over 15 would guess freddie was gay just by watching live at wembley 85.
Bingo!
It was actually an interview, that I read on BM.com:
[http://www.brianmay.com/brian/magsandpress/gwusoct98may99/gwusoct98kom.html]
Guitar World Magazine (US), Oct 1998, "A KIND OF MAGIC"
Relevant paragraphs:
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GW: (...) But what was it like early on, with Freddie being a gay man in the macho world of Seventies rock?
MAY: (...) So there was a period in his life when he was seemingly completely blown away by it all.
(...)
But it didn't really change our relationship with him very much. (...) But from the 'Jazz' album onwards, it would always cross my mind. Because I would be writing words for Freddie to sing. And it became a little game for me to write stuff for him which would make sense whichever way he saw it.
GW: So your writing acquired a kind of ...
MAY: Yeah, another dimension. In fact, I can remember having a go at Freddie because some of the stuff he was writing was very definitely on the gay side. I remember saying, "It would be nice if this stuff could be universally applicable, because we have friends out there of every persuasion." It's nice to involve people. What it's not nice to do is rope people out. And I felt kind of roped out by something that was very overtly a gay anthem, like 'Body Language' [Hot Space, 1982]. I thought it was very hard to take that in the other way. It's hard to talk about this. But there you go.
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HTH
It was actually an interview, that I read on BM.com:
[http://www.brianmay.com/brian/magsandpress/gwusoct98may99/gwusoct98kom.html]
Guitar World Magazine (US), Oct 1998, "A KIND OF MAGIC"
Relevant paragraphs:
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GW: (...) But what was it like early on, with Freddie being a gay man in the macho world of Seventies rock?
MAY: (...) So there was a period in his life when he was seemingly completely blown away by it all.
(...)
But it didn't really change our relationship with him very much. (...) But from the 'Jazz' album onwards, it would always cross my mind. Because I would be writing words for Freddie to sing. And it became a little game for me to write stuff for him which would make sense whichever way he saw it.
GW: So your writing acquired a kind of ...
MAY: Yeah, another dimension. In fact, I can remember having a go at Freddie because some of the stuff he was writing was very definitely on the gay side. I remember saying, "It would be nice if this stuff could be universally applicable, because we have friends out there of every persuasion." It's nice to involve people. What it's not nice to do is rope people out. And I felt kind of roped out by something that was very overtly a gay anthem, like 'Body Language' [Hot Space, 1982]. I thought it was very hard to take that in the other way. It's hard to talk about this. But there you go.
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HTH
^Thanks!
But Freddie was a Bisexual man and not a gay, and i susspect that he was confused really anywway