Hmm? I wonder if he thinks "I'm Going Slighly Mad" sucks?
When Montserrat Caballé says Freddie's a baritone, then Freddie is a baritone.
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[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]saltnvinegar wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Valensian Sky Surveillance wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Freddie's low notes SUCKED.
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I'm quite enjoying reading both sides of the arguments guys, inmydefence-thanks for those A3 examples you gave. Valensian, would you mind clarifying which of the low notes that you consider 'sucked'? [/QUOTE]Crazy little thing called LOVE.
When he says LOVE, it's obvious that it lacks the deepness of a baritone.
Like in "my guess is I'm in for a cloudy and overCAST". The same.
- "WHEN I'm gone".
- "My fine friend (...) FOREVER FOREVER"
- The lower octave of the harmony during the first half of Flick Of The Wrist's verse.
- "When the outside temperature RISES".
All of these notes absolutely lack the deepness and strength of a baritone.
They don't suck, alright. But he CAN'T be a baritone with such a "sloppy" low register.
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I'm quite enjoying reading both sides of the arguments guys, inmydefence-thanks for those A3 examples you gave. Valensian, would you mind clarifying which of the low notes that you consider 'sucked'? [/QUOTE]Crazy little thing called LOVE.
When he says LOVE, it's obvious that it lacks the deepness of a baritone.
Like in "my guess is I'm in for a cloudy and overCAST". The same.
- "WHEN I'm gone".
- "My fine friend (...) FOREVER FOREVER"
- The lower octave of the harmony during the first half of Flick Of The Wrist's verse.
- "When the outside temperature RISES".
All of these notes absolutely lack the deepness and strength of a baritone.
They don't suck, alright. But he CAN'T be a baritone with such a "sloppy" low register.
Thank you! someone with some sense! not only did monserrate say he was a baritone but Peter Freestone also said this in his book Freddie Mercury: An Intimate Memoir By the Man Who Knew Him Best.
Look here
www.f-mercury.com.ar
a guy who knows a ton about singing (i know, i've spoken in depth with him on the subject many times) has made an entire website covering ever aspect of freddies voice... highest notes, lowest notes in full voice head voice falsetto... the works.... he ALSO say freddies a baritone.
It states in WIKIPEDIA that he was a baritone. "Although his speaking voice naturally fell in the baritone range, he delivered most songs in the tenor range" he was a baritone who sang songs that were in a tenor range! as do MANY rock vocalists! there, i've given you the info, and the best you can do is call me a "moron". It leads me to believe you ,much like Atheist, have a problem accepting that you might be wrong.
Look here
www.f-mercury.com.ar
a guy who knows a ton about singing (i know, i've spoken in depth with him on the subject many times) has made an entire website covering ever aspect of freddies voice... highest notes, lowest notes in full voice head voice falsetto... the works.... he ALSO say freddies a baritone.
It states in WIKIPEDIA that he was a baritone. "Although his speaking voice naturally fell in the baritone range, he delivered most songs in the tenor range" he was a baritone who sang songs that were in a tenor range! as do MANY rock vocalists! there, i've given you the info, and the best you can do is call me a "moron". It leads me to believe you ,much like Atheist, have a problem accepting that you might be wrong.
now YOU'RE talking crap. with baritones you can have a bass voice, and you can have a light baritone voice which obviously doesn't go as low as a bass. the ranges vary greatly, but the difference between tenor and a baritone with a descent range is a very clear difference. unless you're Valensian Sky Surveillance.
It's obvious Inmydefence knows his shit. I don't know half as much about singing, but it's still obvious to me that freddie was a natural baritone who adjusted in the studio to sing as a tenor. Listen to live at wembly or the barclona album.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]inmydefence wrote: [/QUOTENAME]now YOU'RE talking crap. with baritones you can have a bass voice, and you can have a light baritone voice which obviously doesn't go as low as a bass. the ranges vary greatly, but the difference between tenor and a baritone with a descent range is a very clear difference. unless you're Valensian Sky Surveillance.[/QUOTE]A baritone that can't hit an A1 properly... sounds like a fake one, to me.
Since you're an ignorant motherfucker son of a fucking bitch, I must say that you're wrong. Way TOO wrong. And so are the other fuckers that say:
"A BARITONE THAT ADJUSTS TO SING AS A TENOR."
That makes no sense.
Since you're an ignorant motherfucker son of a fucking bitch, I must say that you're wrong. Way TOO wrong. And so are the other fuckers that say:
"A BARITONE THAT ADJUSTS TO SING AS A TENOR."
That makes no sense.
well, you can say im wrong if you want. fact is, a baritone can have high enough range to push for the notes is a tenor song, I know this because i have to do it myself regularly. I will see peter freestone in september when we play the freddie mercury memorial night in Montreux. i could ask PF if i could have my photo taken with him, while he's hold a BIG CARD saying FREDDIE WAS A BARITONE! yet you'd still mouth off at me calling me a mother fucker or something. but its ok. call me names! I had enjoyed that discussion up until now!
freddie was gr8.
only his lower notes where shit.
listen to igsm.
a1 that was bad
only his lower notes where shit.
listen to igsm.
a1 that was bad
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[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Valensian Sky Surveillance wrote: [/QUOTENAME] I must say that you're wrong. Way TOO wrong. And so are the other fuckers that say:
"A BARITONE THAT ADJUSTS TO SING AS A TENOR."
That makes no sense.[/QUOTE]
Sure it does. There was a teacher at my undergrad school who was a tenor...all he knew how to do was to "teach" a guy to sing as a tenor. I never heard so many pushed up baritones in my life!
"A BARITONE THAT ADJUSTS TO SING AS A TENOR."
That makes no sense.[/QUOTE]
Sure it does. There was a teacher at my undergrad school who was a tenor...all he knew how to do was to "teach" a guy to sing as a tenor. I never heard so many pushed up baritones in my life!
Beautifulsoup, according to your profile you are a singing coach! what are you thought on the freddie tenor/baritone discussion?
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]inmydefence wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Beautifulsoup, according to your profile you are a singing coach! what are you thought on the freddie tenor/baritone discussion?[/QUOTE]
I prefer to stay out of that aspect of the discussion, please. It really doesn't matter what I think. We all know that we are individually correct.
In the end, it doesn't matter.
ETA: Remind me to take that info out of my profile. :-S
I prefer to stay out of that aspect of the discussion, please. It really doesn't matter what I think. We all know that we are individually correct.
In the end, it doesn't matter.
ETA: Remind me to take that info out of my profile. :-S
ooops! for some reason my browser didnt show your latest post! thanks.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]inmydefence wrote: [/QUOTENAME]ooops! for some reason my browser didnt show your latest post! thanks.[/QUOTE]
You mean the one where I quoted VSS?
You mean the one where I quoted VSS?
thats a very carefully written diplomatic response! thanks for the input. i know what you mean, it really doesn't matter. i just get irritated when people claim the sky is red when its so obviously blue. and for while it was an interesting discussion!