[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<font color=FF0033 face=symbol>Freddie wrote: [/QUOTENAME]So we're talking about Atheist? Well, here was the first time I met him! The discussion got pretty wild from what I can remember, so check it out.
http://www.queenzone.com/queenzone/forumnew/forum_topic_view.aspx?Q=1003006
This thread was just plain stupid.
http://www.queenzone.com/queenzone/forumnew/forum_topic_view.aspx?Q=972816
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Those two topics are pearls of Wisdom!
Let´s not forget that the starter of the first topic is Atheist brother, wich explains a few things.
In the end i think that they´re just taking the piss out of queenzoners ; )
And i love those discussions ; )
Take care
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Haha, I just can't seem to pick on the right people... Sorry chicken! Hey there Ramiez I thought this was a piano thread...what's your opinion to this whole mess of Freddie being the best, only there seems to be a whole bunch of people who harness the same skill at the same level. Athiest, and just Athiest at the moment can't get past this... I think?? I must appear SO DUMB! *cries*
You hardly appear dumb, Sarah. You just have some things to learn about this here Queenzone. ;)
[QUOTENAME]Here are my thoughts upon the matter at hand:[/QUOTENAME]
Freddie Mercury, although one of rock's legends, was not the best pianist. Several people have listed pianists who could surpass and even cripple poor little Freddie when it comes to abilities and experiance. The one thing Freddie Mercury has over all the rest might be the fact that within such a limited amount of ability he was able to improvise extremely well. He demonstrated this very well at several performances and I shall share with you some of my favorite moments.
This is one of my all time favorite moments with Freddie Mercury making an improvised introduction to Bohemian Rhapsody.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxolyq0QPv8
The following example is Freddie Mercury fooling around on the piano which gently leads into In The Lap Of The Gods...Revisited.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOpyhGH6Cy8&mode=related&search=
In the end, Freddie Mercury wasn't the greatest rock and roll pianist of his time, but he certainly knew how to get around that. His creativity and pure ambition to be the best he could be is what won me over.
[QUOTENAME]Here are my thoughts upon the matter at hand:[/QUOTENAME]
Freddie Mercury, although one of rock's legends, was not the best pianist. Several people have listed pianists who could surpass and even cripple poor little Freddie when it comes to abilities and experiance. The one thing Freddie Mercury has over all the rest might be the fact that within such a limited amount of ability he was able to improvise extremely well. He demonstrated this very well at several performances and I shall share with you some of my favorite moments.
This is one of my all time favorite moments with Freddie Mercury making an improvised introduction to Bohemian Rhapsody.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxolyq0QPv8
The following example is Freddie Mercury fooling around on the piano which gently leads into In The Lap Of The Gods...Revisited.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOpyhGH6Cy8&mode=related&search=
In the end, Freddie Mercury wasn't the greatest rock and roll pianist of his time, but he certainly knew how to get around that. His creativity and pure ambition to be the best he could be is what won me over.
I just looked for it, but I couldn't find an article from a guitar magazine that did a full analysis on Bohemian Rhapsody. I'm going by memory here, but recall how the reviewer said that Freddie's compositional skills, understanding of theory and his use of certain piano tricks (inverted chords, pandiatonic? scales and a few other things were "light years" ahead of his contemporaries. Doesn't mean he was a better player than his peers, but he had a great musicality, and certainly a unique style which set him apart.
Further to my previous post, a group of music scholars got into it about Quantz, and how We are the Champions using a similar structure. One guy said "what's the advantage of using this terminology for music like Queen? I think the obvious objection is that it has no familiarity to the students, and may confuse them by suggesting that Johann Joachim Quantz and Freddie Mercury think about their phrases in the same way. Is that the message you want to send?
The following respone came from the Instructor of Music History at a college in Minnesota:
"Given the collective educational background of the members of Queen, (for
instance Brian May holds a Master's in Astronomy and recently was awarded an honorary doctorate) I wouldn't necessarily rule out Mercury's familiarity with Quantz.
In my teaching experience, I have found that using examples from Queen helps
students understand basic concepts behind the terms we tend to use when describing Western Art music."
So again, whether he was a great player or not, Freddie knew his stuff, and sometimes more than his peers did, which reflected in his unique writing.
The following respone came from the Instructor of Music History at a college in Minnesota:
"Given the collective educational background of the members of Queen, (for
instance Brian May holds a Master's in Astronomy and recently was awarded an honorary doctorate) I wouldn't necessarily rule out Mercury's familiarity with Quantz.
In my teaching experience, I have found that using examples from Queen helps
students understand basic concepts behind the terms we tend to use when describing Western Art music."
So again, whether he was a great player or not, Freddie knew his stuff, and sometimes more than his peers did, which reflected in his unique writing.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]gmhmagic wrote: [/QUOTENAME]I want to be part of this... atheist is the funniest clown since BPP! ;)[/QUOTE]
Pfft... you're just jealous because you don't know as much about music as Atheist does.
;)
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Oh god! how did you know????????
>=(
hahaa
=P
Pfft... you're just jealous because you don't know as much about music as Atheist does.
;)
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Oh god! how did you know????????
>=(
hahaa
=P
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Oh no, Chicken is kidding too.
As for Atheist... he has taught us an important life lesson: intelligence is optional.
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LOL!!!!!
well, that could be a good explanation! ;)
As for Atheist... he has taught us an important life lesson: intelligence is optional.
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LOL!!!!!
well, that could be a good explanation! ;)
Great post!! I have a vague recollection of someone explaining this to me, years ago(a true Queen fan, and, certainly not as expertly:I don't think Quantz was mentioned), and, as I was reading through this thread, it was tickling my memory.[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Boy Thomas Raker wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Further to my previous post, a group of music scholars got into it about Quantz, and how We are the Champions using a similar structure. One guy said "what's the advantage of using this terminology for music like Queen? I think the obvious objection is that it has no familiarity to the students, and may confuse them by suggesting that Johann Joachim Quantz and Freddie Mercury think about their phrases in the same way. Is that the message you want to send?
The following respone came from the Instructor of Music History at a college in Minnesota:
"Given the collective educational background of the members of Queen, (for
instance Brian May holds a Master's in Astronomy and recently was awarded an honorary doctorate) I wouldn't necessarily rule out Mercury's familiarity with Quantz.
In my teaching experience, I have found that using examples from Queen helps
students understand basic concepts behind the terms we tend to use when describing Western Art music."
So again, whether he was a great player or not, Freddie knew his stuff, and sometimes more than his peers did, which reflected in his unique writing.
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The following respone came from the Instructor of Music History at a college in Minnesota:
"Given the collective educational background of the members of Queen, (for
instance Brian May holds a Master's in Astronomy and recently was awarded an honorary doctorate) I wouldn't necessarily rule out Mercury's familiarity with Quantz.
In my teaching experience, I have found that using examples from Queen helps
students understand basic concepts behind the terms we tend to use when describing Western Art music."
So again, whether he was a great player or not, Freddie knew his stuff, and sometimes more than his peers did, which reflected in his unique writing.
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Those were wonderful! I think I have become powerless over youtube, and, my life quite unmanageable!Thanks for posting those links![QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<font color=FF0033 face=symbol>Freddie wrote: [/QUOTENAME]You hardly appear dumb, Sarah. You just have some things to learn about this here Queenzone. ;)
[QUOTENAME]Here are my thoughts upon the matter at hand:[/QUOTENAME]
Freddie Mercury, although one of rock's legends, was not the best pianist. Several people have listed pianists who could surpass and even cripple poor little Freddie when it comes to abilities and experiance. The one thing Freddie Mercury has over all the rest might be the fact that within such a limited amount of ability he was able to improvise extremely well. He demonstrated this very well at several performances and I shall share with you some of my favorite moments.
This is one of my all time favorite moments with Freddie Mercury making an improvised introduction to Bohemian Rhapsody.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxolyq0QPv8
The following example is Freddie Mercury fooling around on the piano which gently leads into In The Lap Of The Gods...Revisited.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOpyhGH6Cy8&mode=related&search=
In the end, Freddie Mercury wasn't the greatest rock and roll pianist of his time, but he certainly knew how to get around that. His creativity and pure ambition to be the best he could be is what won me over.
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[QUOTENAME]Here are my thoughts upon the matter at hand:[/QUOTENAME]
Freddie Mercury, although one of rock's legends, was not the best pianist. Several people have listed pianists who could surpass and even cripple poor little Freddie when it comes to abilities and experiance. The one thing Freddie Mercury has over all the rest might be the fact that within such a limited amount of ability he was able to improvise extremely well. He demonstrated this very well at several performances and I shall share with you some of my favorite moments.
This is one of my all time favorite moments with Freddie Mercury making an improvised introduction to Bohemian Rhapsody.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxolyq0QPv8
The following example is Freddie Mercury fooling around on the piano which gently leads into In The Lap Of The Gods...Revisited.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOpyhGH6Cy8&mode=related&search=
In the end, Freddie Mercury wasn't the greatest rock and roll pianist of his time, but he certainly knew how to get around that. His creativity and pure ambition to be the best he could be is what won me over.
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[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Boy Thomas Raker wrote: [/QUOTENAME]I just looked for it, but I couldn't find an article from a guitar magazine that did a full analysis on Bohemian Rhapsody. I'm going by memory here, but recall how the reviewer said that Freddie's compositional skills, understanding of theory and his use of certain piano tricks (inverted chords, pandiatonic? scales and a few other things were "light years" ahead of his contemporaries. Doesn't mean he was a better player than his peers, but he had a great musicality, and certainly a unique style which set him apart.[/QUOTE]
Indeed, as a player only he wasn't anything special (well, sort of, but not so much), but as composer he was unique.
Indeed, as a player only he wasn't anything special (well, sort of, but not so much), but as composer he was unique.
I'm surprised that noone has mentioned Tori Amos yet, but it might be that noone remembers her, because she's from a rock generation, not famous for their pianists.
In my opinion she's one of the best pop/rock pianists around, with a very unique style, where she shifts between subtle chords (almost in a Debussy style) and great outbursts of violent emotion.
In my opinion she's one of the best pop/rock pianists around, with a very unique style, where she shifts between subtle chords (almost in a Debussy style) and great outbursts of violent emotion.