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He would pardon whatever criminal among his close circle of friends.
he didnt pardon him--
a pardon would have not only wiped out the jail term but the fines and conviction itself..
he only commuted the jail term
sure that will take his popularity down another 10 points or so.......
a pardon would have not only wiped out the jail term but the fines and conviction itself..
he only commuted the jail term
sure that will take his popularity down another 10 points or so.......
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]PieterMC wrote: [/QUOTENAME]What a bunch of bullshit...[/QUOTE]
That about sums up this administration.
That about sums up this administration.
Who has a name like that?
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]iron eagle wrote: [/QUOTENAME]he didnt pardon him--
a pardon would have not only wiped out the jail term but the fines and conviction itself..
he only commuted the jail term
sure that will take his popularity down another 10 points or so.......
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Still bullshit :-)
a pardon would have not only wiped out the jail term but the fines and conviction itself..
he only commuted the jail term
sure that will take his popularity down another 10 points or so.......
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Still bullshit :-)
Of course, a pardon in January 2009 is not out of the question.
didnt say it wasnt bs either *LOL*
I know who is Scooby Doo, but who the * is Scooter Libby ?
No pardon, folks.....just commuted the 30 month jail sentence. Still convicted of a felony, still on probation, still paying the fines...
Lets be fair here, though. How quickly we seem to forget the past in this country....
http://www.usdoj.gov/pardon/clintonpardon_grants.htm
Lets be fair here, though. How quickly we seem to forget the past in this country....
http://www.usdoj.gov/pardon/clintonpardon_grants.htm
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Haystacks Calhounski wrote: [/QUOTENAME]
http://www.usdoj.gov/pardon/clintonpardon_grants.htm [/QUOTE]
That's bullshit too. Presidential pardons are a joke.
http://www.usdoj.gov/pardon/clintonpardon_grants.htm [/QUOTE]
That's bullshit too. Presidential pardons are a joke.
You know, just when I thought he couldn't get any dumber.
He HAD to have known that if he even touched the sentence at all he was basically going to be admitting to being corrupt within his government. I mean it's not nice to let a guy take a fall for what you ordered, but it was neccessary to preserve any sense of dignity in this mess, and maybe, just maybe, show people that he had learned a lesson about justice.
I guess he is sticking to his guns and what he thinks is right on this one...commuting the sentence. But it's going to cost him more in the long run.
He HAD to have known that if he even touched the sentence at all he was basically going to be admitting to being corrupt within his government. I mean it's not nice to let a guy take a fall for what you ordered, but it was neccessary to preserve any sense of dignity in this mess, and maybe, just maybe, show people that he had learned a lesson about justice.
I guess he is sticking to his guns and what he thinks is right on this one...commuting the sentence. But it's going to cost him more in the long run.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]PieterMC wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Haystacks Calhounski wrote: [/QUOTENAME]
http://www.usdoj.gov/pardon/clintonpardon_grants.htm [/QUOTE]
That's bullshit too. Presidential pardons are a joke.[/QUOTE]
You will get no argument here....at least you play fair. It's a joke to read Hillary's statement about this.
"This commutation sends the clear signal that in this administration, cronyism and ideology trump competence and justice." - Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, D-N.Y.
She act's like her and hubby never did anything of the sort with their circle of friends....take a look at their record regarding "cronyism and ideology"....
And some people are actually serious about putting another idealogue into office?
Sheesh.
http://www.usdoj.gov/pardon/clintonpardon_grants.htm [/QUOTE]
That's bullshit too. Presidential pardons are a joke.[/QUOTE]
You will get no argument here....at least you play fair. It's a joke to read Hillary's statement about this.
"This commutation sends the clear signal that in this administration, cronyism and ideology trump competence and justice." - Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, D-N.Y.
She act's like her and hubby never did anything of the sort with their circle of friends....take a look at their record regarding "cronyism and ideology"....
And some people are actually serious about putting another idealogue into office?
Sheesh.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]HistoryGirl wrote: [/QUOTENAME]...But it's going to cost him more in the long run. [/QUOTE]
I bet his chances for reelection dropped to zero now! :-)))
I bet his chances for reelection dropped to zero now! :-)))
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Haystacks Calhounski wrote: [/QUOTENAME] still paying the fines...
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It should also be pointed out that wealthy or influential Republican officials, like former ambassador Richard Carlson, have been fundraising for his defense. I would imagine that more money will be raised to help pay off the fines, or at the least, someone will offer a job.
And both Clinton and Bush Sr did the pardon thing to dubious officials. Circumstances forced Bush Jr to commute the sentence now, but I wouldn't be surprised to see a pardon just days or hours before he leaves office.
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It should also be pointed out that wealthy or influential Republican officials, like former ambassador Richard Carlson, have been fundraising for his defense. I would imagine that more money will be raised to help pay off the fines, or at the least, someone will offer a job.
And both Clinton and Bush Sr did the pardon thing to dubious officials. Circumstances forced Bush Jr to commute the sentence now, but I wouldn't be surprised to see a pardon just days or hours before he leaves office.