Don't know about you guys but I for one am looking forward to this being released, as I understand it the model will be a considerable jump up from the current version.
They have just finished sourcing the version and it is already in production
Word on the street is it will be retailing about the £2000-£2500k mark and be in the shops about October ish...
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WTF? For that kind of money, you could buy yourself a vintage Gibson Les Paul if you were to bother actually looking for it!!!
What have they changed/spruced up in this?
That is a lot of money........ !!!
That is a lot of money........ !!!
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<b><font color = "crimson"> ThomasQuinn wrote: [/QUOTENAME]WTF? For that kind of money, you could buy yourself a vintage Gibson Les Paul if you were to bother actually looking for it!!![/QUOTE]
Yes you could, but why if you dont want a vintage Les Paul?
Yes you could, but why if you dont want a vintage Les Paul?
Exchange rates! Heehee. I like having the pound right now. So easy to get good bargains in the USA.
Anyway, back to the main thread. Yes, the more pro model will be a nice step up. But, what's this about £2000-2500?? Where the heck did you hear that? Just funny that you have a price-point but haven't read the Fryer/KZ story. I see it hasn't hit over here yet. Here's a link = http://p209.ezboard.com/fbrianmayworldfrm13.showMessage?topicID=4574.topic
It's an interesting move, but considering the KZjnr was roughly £1800, I don't see how mass producing such a guitar will make its price leap! Surely, it's the other way around? I'm sure they're still aiming at a £1500 estimate price point.
Also, I don't expect this guitar until next year at the earliest. Surely...
Adam.
Anyway, back to the main thread. Yes, the more pro model will be a nice step up. But, what's this about £2000-2500?? Where the heck did you hear that? Just funny that you have a price-point but haven't read the Fryer/KZ story. I see it hasn't hit over here yet. Here's a link = http://p209.ezboard.com/fbrianmayworldfrm13.showMessage?topicID=4574.topic
It's an interesting move, but considering the KZjnr was roughly £1800, I don't see how mass producing such a guitar will make its price leap! Surely, it's the other way around? I'm sure they're still aiming at a £1500 estimate price point.
Also, I don't expect this guitar until next year at the earliest. Surely...
Adam.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]NTL wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<b><font color = "crimson"> ThomasQuinn wrote: [/QUOTENAME]WTF? For that kind of money, you could buy yourself a vintage Gibson Les Paul if you were to bother actually looking for it!!![/QUOTE]
Yes you could, but why if you dont want a vintage Les Paul?[/QUOTE]
If you don't want a vintage Les Paul, you won't want a Brian May, and if you are the type who'd like a Brian May, you'd also know that you'd get a far better guitar if you bought a vintage Gibson Les Paul.
Yes you could, but why if you dont want a vintage Les Paul?[/QUOTE]
If you don't want a vintage Les Paul, you won't want a Brian May, and if you are the type who'd like a Brian May, you'd also know that you'd get a far better guitar if you bought a vintage Gibson Les Paul.
I really can't comment on these high end guitars because I've no knowledge of them - by that I mean 'real' knowledge, as in having picked one up and played it and gotten my own evaluation!!
I still feel the Burns is a bit overpriced. If you're going to cough up that much money, they could give you something more than a bridge you might find on a Squire...
Now that I have owned it for a year, I don't really have any regrets. I take care of it, and it takes care of me!
Looks nicer with a white scratchplate, though....
I still feel the Burns is a bit overpriced. If you're going to cough up that much money, they could give you something more than a bridge you might find on a Squire...
Now that I have owned it for a year, I don't really have any regrets. I take care of it, and it takes care of me!
Looks nicer with a white scratchplate, though....
Well, if you're a musician who likes the Red Special, which is totally unique in the world of rock, then a vintage Les Paul or Strat is kind of useless. If you're buying as an investor, the original Guild's, which were SRP of $1,200 in the US, can now fetch up to $3,000. That's a pretty good rate of return over 20 years.
There's nothing wrong with not wanting a Gibson Les Paul. Sure, they are regarded as one of the better guitars on market - it also has the most distinguised settings that make it 'different' to play like any other guitar. One should like that.
I don't - no matter how much I like the sound.
Anyway; the new version MUST be a big difference, as most of the commercially available BM guitars are not great. As in they are cheap. (Note for instance indead the cheapest of cheapest bridge on all the models.) The Burns, Guild AND new BM guitars are all pretty useless as they come from the factory. A 'serious' guitarplayer HAS to customise it. Then again... I cannot imagine ANY 'serious' guitarist buying a Red Special as his main guitar.
The new pro SHOULD have a decent bridge and tremolo system, SHOULD have more decent pickups, etc etc.
One can buy a Fender Strat for a couple of hundred euro's but also a Fender Strat of a couple of thousand.
You can buy a thousand euro Gibson Les Paul - you can also buy a 7000 euro Gibson Les Paul Carlos Santana signature model.
I assume the difference with this guitar will be alike. Still, I need to see first if it beets the Guitons - which are still the best BM guitars out there by far. (AND the most expensive! ;-)
I don't - no matter how much I like the sound.
Anyway; the new version MUST be a big difference, as most of the commercially available BM guitars are not great. As in they are cheap. (Note for instance indead the cheapest of cheapest bridge on all the models.) The Burns, Guild AND new BM guitars are all pretty useless as they come from the factory. A 'serious' guitarplayer HAS to customise it. Then again... I cannot imagine ANY 'serious' guitarist buying a Red Special as his main guitar.
The new pro SHOULD have a decent bridge and tremolo system, SHOULD have more decent pickups, etc etc.
One can buy a Fender Strat for a couple of hundred euro's but also a Fender Strat of a couple of thousand.
You can buy a thousand euro Gibson Les Paul - you can also buy a 7000 euro Gibson Les Paul Carlos Santana signature model.
I assume the difference with this guitar will be alike. Still, I need to see first if it beets the Guitons - which are still the best BM guitars out there by far. (AND the most expensive! ;-)
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<b><font color = "crimson"> ThomasQuinn wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]NTL wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<b><font color = "crimson"> ThomasQuinn wrote: [/QUOTENAME]WTF? For that kind of money, you could buy yourself a vintage Gibson Les Paul if you were to bother actually looking for it!!![/QUOTE]
Yes you could, but why if you dont want a vintage Les Paul?[/QUOTE]
If you don't want a vintage Les Paul, you won't want a Brian May, and if you are the type who'd like a Brian May, you'd also know that you'd get a far better guitar if you bought a vintage Gibson Les Paul.[/QUOTE]
Dont agree with that at all. Have 3 BM's and an old Les Paul Studio and IMO all my BM's piss on the Les Paul, for me its the perfect guitar.
Yes you could, but why if you dont want a vintage Les Paul?[/QUOTE]
If you don't want a vintage Les Paul, you won't want a Brian May, and if you are the type who'd like a Brian May, you'd also know that you'd get a far better guitar if you bought a vintage Gibson Les Paul.[/QUOTE]
Dont agree with that at all. Have 3 BM's and an old Les Paul Studio and IMO all my BM's piss on the Les Paul, for me its the perfect guitar.
I've played two of the high-end BM reproductions, a Gibson Flying-V from the late '60s I believe, Gibson Les Paul and Les Paul Special, and every Fender Strat in the store, and I can't say there's anything I like quite as much as the Gibson Les Paul, especially the older versions. Being used to a Dean LP Special, it made quite a change, but it beats everything out of the field, IMHO. Especially playing it through Fender tube-amps gives a really nice effect.
Jeroen, you have a strange view on the entire BM copy history. To throw all models, from the Guild to the current BHM sig line of guitars, is bizarre. And from the experiences from Guild owners I've read, anyone who has used them knows they're pretty top notch. No customisation needed. And these days, they're very much sought after guitars.
And for some bizarre reason you expect the BHM Pro line should be better than a Guyton??!?!! Weird comment. NOTHING (apart from the real thing) can beat a Guyton as it's supposed to be a very well made piece of art of a guitar.
And I can proudly say the BHM sig I bought last year is my main guitar. The sounds and playability I get from it are brilliant. These recent revised models have been great. The bad comments are usually the authenticity in looks or (as voiced above) the tremolo. True, after going back to my old guitar's tremolo, I have to admit, it's far better than the one on the 2006 model. But a step-up from the pre-2006 models, i.e. Burns.
Lastly, if people are wondering what the pro COULD be - it may be wise to read up on Fryer's copies that Brian has and also checking out user reviews of KZ red special guitars. Something's brewin'...
Adam.
And for some bizarre reason you expect the BHM Pro line should be better than a Guyton??!?!! Weird comment. NOTHING (apart from the real thing) can beat a Guyton as it's supposed to be a very well made piece of art of a guitar.
And I can proudly say the BHM sig I bought last year is my main guitar. The sounds and playability I get from it are brilliant. These recent revised models have been great. The bad comments are usually the authenticity in looks or (as voiced above) the tremolo. True, after going back to my old guitar's tremolo, I have to admit, it's far better than the one on the 2006 model. But a step-up from the pre-2006 models, i.e. Burns.
Lastly, if people are wondering what the pro COULD be - it may be wise to read up on Fryer's copies that Brian has and also checking out user reviews of KZ red special guitars. Something's brewin'...
Adam.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Adam Baboolal wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Jeroen, you have a strange view on the entire BM copy history. To throw all models, from the Guild to the current BHM sig line of guitars, is bizarre.
--->No, they are not the same line indeed. But even the best (the new one, I believe) has it's minor issues.
And from the experiences from Guild owners I've read, anyone who has used them knows they're pretty top notch. No customisation needed. And these days, they're very much sought after guitars.
------>you mentioned the tremolo yourself. That one, and indeed the most important, of them all. Sure, if you're just using it slightly, there is no problem. But try make a diver... (use it as intense as Brian does!) and you'll be hopelessly out of tune,
(Btw: I not only keep in mind the features and sound - also things like playability. But I do NOT keep in mind collectors-value!)
And for some bizarre reason you expect the BHM Pro line should be better than a Guyton??!?!! Weird comment. NOTHING (apart from the real thing) can beat a Guyton as it's supposed to be a very well made piece of art of a guitar.
--->That was my way of saying what you're say: NOTHING can beat a Guyton. Because I DON't expect it to be as good.
And I can proudly say the BHM sig I bought last year is my main guitar.
-----?You're right, I should have used the word 'professional'. Someone that plays his own gigs, and records his own music (apart from a cover/tribute band) would not use a BM guitar. It would be rediciolous. Everybody would think of Brian May instead of you.
Jeroen
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--->No, they are not the same line indeed. But even the best (the new one, I believe) has it's minor issues.
And from the experiences from Guild owners I've read, anyone who has used them knows they're pretty top notch. No customisation needed. And these days, they're very much sought after guitars.
------>you mentioned the tremolo yourself. That one, and indeed the most important, of them all. Sure, if you're just using it slightly, there is no problem. But try make a diver... (use it as intense as Brian does!) and you'll be hopelessly out of tune,
(Btw: I not only keep in mind the features and sound - also things like playability. But I do NOT keep in mind collectors-value!)
And for some bizarre reason you expect the BHM Pro line should be better than a Guyton??!?!! Weird comment. NOTHING (apart from the real thing) can beat a Guyton as it's supposed to be a very well made piece of art of a guitar.
--->That was my way of saying what you're say: NOTHING can beat a Guyton. Because I DON't expect it to be as good.
And I can proudly say the BHM sig I bought last year is my main guitar.
-----?You're right, I should have used the word 'professional'. Someone that plays his own gigs, and records his own music (apart from a cover/tribute band) would not use a BM guitar. It would be rediciolous. Everybody would think of Brian May instead of you.
Jeroen
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PS. YES I am demanding! ;-)
But seriously; those guitars are fine. As an 'average' instrument. As a more 'serious' guitarist I'm REALY looking for something better.
If you play a REAL (as in not the cheap models) Fender (already the ones in the same price range as a BM), or -as mentioned- Gibson, a real Ibanez, a Parker Fly or a Paul Reed Smith for instance... yum
(alright, I admit that those last two even the cheapest model available is far more expensive then the most expsensive BM guitar, but I just felt like mentioning some REAL guitars! ;-)
But seriously; those guitars are fine. As an 'average' instrument. As a more 'serious' guitarist I'm REALY looking for something better.
If you play a REAL (as in not the cheap models) Fender (already the ones in the same price range as a BM), or -as mentioned- Gibson, a real Ibanez, a Parker Fly or a Paul Reed Smith for instance... yum
(alright, I admit that those last two even the cheapest model available is far more expensive then the most expsensive BM guitar, but I just felt like mentioning some REAL guitars! ;-)
"You're right, I should have used the word 'professional'. Someone that plays his own gigs, and records his own music (apart from a cover/tribute band) would not use a BM guitar. It would be rediciolous. Everybody would think of Brian May instead of you."
I've no intention of keeping my BM as my 'main' guitar forever - however that's a pretty big assumption you're making right there. Not everyone recognises the Brian May guitar right off the bat. I must've demoed it to a hundred people in the past year and it's only ever the guitarists who know it's history!
In terms of gigging, I would expect that people would think "Brian May" often when seeing the guitar in performance, but you'd be a damn fool to not use it at least once in recording. The sounds a player can get out of that guitar... well... if they know what they're doing, anyway!
"Especially playing it through Fender tube-amps gives a really nice effect."
I don't like the feel of Gibsons, I honestly can't play them at all - but I'll 2nd what you said about the Fender amps there. I went into the 'expensive' room (heh) in my local guitar store and tried out a couple of guitars through this big Fender amp they had. Great sound.
And can someone explain to me the allure of a PRS guitar?
I've no intention of keeping my BM as my 'main' guitar forever - however that's a pretty big assumption you're making right there. Not everyone recognises the Brian May guitar right off the bat. I must've demoed it to a hundred people in the past year and it's only ever the guitarists who know it's history!
In terms of gigging, I would expect that people would think "Brian May" often when seeing the guitar in performance, but you'd be a damn fool to not use it at least once in recording. The sounds a player can get out of that guitar... well... if they know what they're doing, anyway!
"Especially playing it through Fender tube-amps gives a really nice effect."
I don't like the feel of Gibsons, I honestly can't play them at all - but I'll 2nd what you said about the Fender amps there. I went into the 'expensive' room (heh) in my local guitar store and tried out a couple of guitars through this big Fender amp they had. Great sound.
And can someone explain to me the allure of a PRS guitar?