Anyone who doesn't entertain the BM guitar for serious work is missing themselves, and the point of the guitar. I've never had so much control over sounds, it's great! I very, very rarely use my other guitars because the pickup selections on the BM can give me whatever I've needed, so far.
I've done plenty of recording work with the guitar and consider it a wonderful tool for sounds alone. Anyone who doesn't use it because they're worried about it being recognised, is always someone worried about looks. I used to play with a half broken scratchplate on my old guitar and I could've cared less how it or I looked!
Btw, when I've used my BHM sig's tremolo for dives, it never went out of tune. It was great for about 6 months before I started tinkering and messed it up. So, now, it goes slightly out of tune on the A string. There seem to be a few myths going about because of the earlier range of guitars' problems.
Now...where's all the discussion about the new guitar?
Adam.
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There is no way, no way that a Korean made guitar can match up to an American made guitar. Especially a Guild before the Fender buyout. I've played a Guild and I own a Burns and it doesn't compare. The reason I play my Burns is because it has Adeson Trisonics. In terms of feel and playability and sound the Guild is a lot better, but nonetheless, the BHM/Burns are good guitar. I guess this is why there's been an outcry for a midrange model. I do hope Kaz and the BHM team, team up to create a something better. The way the dollar is though, I might not be able to afford one in the near future. I guess I have to start saving.
The BHM is a versatile guitar with many options. I know a lot of guitarist that don't want to own one because they think it just creates a BHM like tone but that's not necessarily true. I've let people play my custom made guitar or my Burns with their setup and they immediately fall in love.
The BHM is a versatile guitar with many options. I know a lot of guitarist that don't want to own one because they think it just creates a BHM like tone but that's not necessarily true. I've let people play my custom made guitar or my Burns with their setup and they immediately fall in love.
I must confess I've been leaning slightly away from the Brian May sound and closer to something you might find on a Jeff Wayne album. Tee-hee...
My earlier mention of the Burns 'cheap' vibrato wasn't actually a complaint about the quality of it... I mean, it works, it stays in tune (and I give that wami-bar an absolute hammering sometimes). I merely commented that maybe the price could've reflected the somewhat run of the mill hardware in that area.
But anyway. I shouldn't complain, since I haggled with the shop so much anyhow.
My earlier mention of the Burns 'cheap' vibrato wasn't actually a complaint about the quality of it... I mean, it works, it stays in tune (and I give that wami-bar an absolute hammering sometimes). I merely commented that maybe the price could've reflected the somewhat run of the mill hardware in that area.
But anyway. I shouldn't complain, since I haggled with the shop so much anyhow.
I don't care how "pro" it is, a $5000 Brian May guitar doesn't have a market in the US and would clearly be a marketing disaster.
Some of the top Fender CS's go for about that. Do they really think they have a shot?
I like Adam's estimation better, but I would be very suspect of this, considering how Brian just launched his line.
Some of the top Fender CS's go for about that. Do they really think they have a shot?
I like Adam's estimation better, but I would be very suspect of this, considering how Brian just launched his line.
Very true my fellow Texan. I remember when the 1993/94 Guilds were released. Retail price at Guitar Center was $1495 back in 1993 and a couple of years later I knew of shops that were selling them at $800 dollars because they weren't selling. Now the Guilds are selling at around $3000 but only Hard Core fans and collectors are buying them, not you average/semi pro guitarist.
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I think, for that price, I'd like Brian to deliver the thing.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Adam Baboolal wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Exchange rates! Heehee. I like having the pound right now. So easy to get good bargains in the USA.
Anyway, back to the main thread. Yes, the more pro model will be a nice step up. But, what's this about £2000-2500?? Where the heck did you hear that? Just funny that you have a price-point but haven't read the Fryer/KZ story. I see it hasn't hit over here yet. Here's a link = http://p209.ezboard.com/fbrianmayworldfrm13.showMessage?topicID=4574.topic
It's an interesting move, but considering the KZjnr was roughly £1800, I don't see how mass producing such a guitar will make its price leap! Surely, it's the other way around? I'm sure they're still aiming at a £1500 estimate price point.
Also, I don't expect this guitar until next year at the earliest. Surely...
Adam.[/QUOTE]
Well, all I can say is this is what I have told from a member of the team sourcing the guitar, they are in production in Japan now and will only do a limited run of around 100 - 150 they will have to make a profit so I guess the extra cost is partly UK end profit/mark-up and some amendments requested by the team, cost wise to justify this it will be the only version from that factor sanctioned by Brian
I think you have to realise that it is a Pro version so basically if you are in that market, or are a serious collector it falls nicely between the current model and a Guyton at £6000 plus if memory serves.
It is not meant for the average fan, so if you can't afford it, it is because it is not aimed at you. All I can say is that is the discussed price at the moment what they settle on might be lower but it would seem unlikely.
BTW the Kz model that has just finished production was retailing at 892,500 Yen which is approx £3500 they also produced a Jnr version at around the 400.500 yen mark so even that would be approx £1800
The production company have asked if they want them all in one go in September, however the feeling is the factor will not manage that. We wait and see...
Anyway, back to the main thread. Yes, the more pro model will be a nice step up. But, what's this about £2000-2500?? Where the heck did you hear that? Just funny that you have a price-point but haven't read the Fryer/KZ story. I see it hasn't hit over here yet. Here's a link = http://p209.ezboard.com/fbrianmayworldfrm13.showMessage?topicID=4574.topic
It's an interesting move, but considering the KZjnr was roughly £1800, I don't see how mass producing such a guitar will make its price leap! Surely, it's the other way around? I'm sure they're still aiming at a £1500 estimate price point.
Also, I don't expect this guitar until next year at the earliest. Surely...
Adam.[/QUOTE]
Well, all I can say is this is what I have told from a member of the team sourcing the guitar, they are in production in Japan now and will only do a limited run of around 100 - 150 they will have to make a profit so I guess the extra cost is partly UK end profit/mark-up and some amendments requested by the team, cost wise to justify this it will be the only version from that factor sanctioned by Brian
I think you have to realise that it is a Pro version so basically if you are in that market, or are a serious collector it falls nicely between the current model and a Guyton at £6000 plus if memory serves.
It is not meant for the average fan, so if you can't afford it, it is because it is not aimed at you. All I can say is that is the discussed price at the moment what they settle on might be lower but it would seem unlikely.
BTW the Kz model that has just finished production was retailing at 892,500 Yen which is approx £3500 they also produced a Jnr version at around the 400.500 yen mark so even that would be approx £1800
The production company have asked if they want them all in one go in September, however the feeling is the factor will not manage that. We wait and see...
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Togg wrote: [/QUOTENAME]
Well, all I can say is this is what I have told from a member of the team sourcing the guitar, they are in production in Japan now and will only do a limited run of around 100 - 150 they will have to make a profit so I guess the extra cost is partly UK end profit/mark-up and some amendments requested by the team, cost wise to justify this it will be the only version from that factor sanctioned by Brian
I think you have to realise that it is a Pro version so basically if you are in that market, or are a serious collector it falls nicely between the current model and a Guyton at £6000 plus if memory serves.
It is not meant for the average fan, so if you can't afford it, it is because it is not aimed at you. All I can say is that is the discussed price at the moment what they settle on might be lower but it would seem unlikely.
BTW the Kz model that has just finished production was retailing at 892,500 Yen which is approx £3500 they also produced a Jnr version at around the 400.500 yen mark so even that would be approx £1800
The production company have asked if they want them all in one go in September, however the feeling is the factor will not manage that. We wait and see...[/QUOTE]
So Kaz is producing the RS Pro! I don't mind paying a little extra if someone like him is involved.
Well, all I can say is this is what I have told from a member of the team sourcing the guitar, they are in production in Japan now and will only do a limited run of around 100 - 150 they will have to make a profit so I guess the extra cost is partly UK end profit/mark-up and some amendments requested by the team, cost wise to justify this it will be the only version from that factor sanctioned by Brian
I think you have to realise that it is a Pro version so basically if you are in that market, or are a serious collector it falls nicely between the current model and a Guyton at £6000 plus if memory serves.
It is not meant for the average fan, so if you can't afford it, it is because it is not aimed at you. All I can say is that is the discussed price at the moment what they settle on might be lower but it would seem unlikely.
BTW the Kz model that has just finished production was retailing at 892,500 Yen which is approx £3500 they also produced a Jnr version at around the 400.500 yen mark so even that would be approx £1800
The production company have asked if they want them all in one go in September, however the feeling is the factor will not manage that. We wait and see...[/QUOTE]
So Kaz is producing the RS Pro! I don't mind paying a little extra if someone like him is involved.
He has a good track record as I remember from users' views on his Kz RS guitars. Both Jnr and Pro versions. I await further info! I may be able to get one cause I've got some cash stashed away and heck, what an investment!
Adam.
Adam.
This might be a difficult choice for me to make. I might end up getting an RS Guitar instead. Price wise, I might be saving myself at least $1000, hell, maybe even $1500. The recent modifcations to the RS have made it more like the original.