[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Benn wrote: [/QUOTENAME]On My Way Up, re:
>>Also, the archive certainly includes 2 manchester , 2 brighton, 1 liverpool and the alexandra palace shows from the crazy tour.You transcribed stage banter from those shows of which there is no bootleg.That's how I know.And maybe also dublin and birmingham. That alone is about 25 shows.
He DID point out that they had not yet listened to ALL of the 1979 LK shows that were recorded, so, by extension, he's not entirely certain what / how many exist. This was explained. It's also possible that the stage banter that was transcribed came from PRIVATE audience tapes which are not in wider circulation.......
Give the guy a chance - he did what he promised.[/QUOTE]I was talking about Crazy tour. That's not the LK tour.
In his book he wrote he listened to the '79 tapes.
Tell me something:how can you transcribe the banter from a recording without listening to it?
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[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]AlexRocks wrote: [/QUOTENAME] Why is there not an answer given to the question that I and others are asking if this list is of film or a mix of film and audio? Sure beats the point if it is a mix doesn't it?[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Queen Archivist wrote: [/QUOTENAME]IS THE LIST VIDEO/FOOTAGE or AUDIO????
It is both. I do actually point that out, but maybe not very clearly.
The list of concerts is what we have on audio, be it on 2" multitrack (less common) or steroe tape (most often). but some of them, as you know, have corresponding footage too... of varying formats... often rather poor.
Aside from the audio recordings, you guys already know what we have that corresponds on the footage side - hence my note about Rare Live, Magic Years, MK and Wembley DVD bonus. You know from all that what we have on footage coz it's all been featured in some way or other down the years. We are not sitting on anything major, hence my comment about NOTHING PROFOUND exists to blow you away.
There are a lot of questions about the Europe 79 tapes, fair enoughly, as I expected - this era is my own personal favourite too so I too scrutinise all that stuff very closely... which is what scrutinise means, so I didn't really need to add that!!!! to scrutinise is to look at very closely.
In terms of euro 79 sound, we have a fair bit I'm pleased to say. 13 shows I think. Mostly full shows but that has yet to be confirmed coz we have never played through them all... never had need or reason to.
but rest assured the Live Killers period is well covered AUDIO wise... but far far far less so in footage terms.
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[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Queen Archivist wrote: [/QUOTENAME]IS THE LIST VIDEO/FOOTAGE or AUDIO????
It is both. I do actually point that out, but maybe not very clearly.
The list of concerts is what we have on audio, be it on 2" multitrack (less common) or steroe tape (most often). but some of them, as you know, have corresponding footage too... of varying formats... often rather poor.
Aside from the audio recordings, you guys already know what we have that corresponds on the footage side - hence my note about Rare Live, Magic Years, MK and Wembley DVD bonus. You know from all that what we have on footage coz it's all been featured in some way or other down the years. We are not sitting on anything major, hence my comment about NOTHING PROFOUND exists to blow you away.
There are a lot of questions about the Europe 79 tapes, fair enoughly, as I expected - this era is my own personal favourite too so I too scrutinise all that stuff very closely... which is what scrutinise means, so I didn't really need to add that!!!! to scrutinise is to look at very closely.
In terms of euro 79 sound, we have a fair bit I'm pleased to say. 13 shows I think. Mostly full shows but that has yet to be confirmed coz we have never played through them all... never had need or reason to.
but rest assured the Live Killers period is well covered AUDIO wise... but far far far less so in footage terms.
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Hyde Park '76
I'm curious about this one. The story goes that it will never see the light of day, because even the master tape has suffered some damage over the past 30 years, and is no longer in releaseable condition. Is that true, or does the master look considerably better than the bootleg version we've all got burned to DVD?
Slane Castle '86
This one interests me, particularly because of the problems Queen had with the audience. How complete is this one, and is it audio-only or video?
Hammy '79
If you released this next, I would cry with joy. I'm not even kidding.
Montreal '81
Could you please define "Montreal '81"? Is the same DVD footage that we've all seen a hundred times what you have, or do you have unreleased bits and pieces of both nights lying around?
In conclusion, thank you, Greg, for posting this! I know I'm a load of questions, and believe me, I've only scratched the surface of the questions I have about the archives, just based on what you've already posted. I'm sure I'll get to more in time, but God knows enough people have been asking questions. I fear for Brian May's inbox once this thread becomes heavily-publicized news among Queen fans!
I'm curious about this one. The story goes that it will never see the light of day, because even the master tape has suffered some damage over the past 30 years, and is no longer in releaseable condition. Is that true, or does the master look considerably better than the bootleg version we've all got burned to DVD?
Slane Castle '86
This one interests me, particularly because of the problems Queen had with the audience. How complete is this one, and is it audio-only or video?
Hammy '79
If you released this next, I would cry with joy. I'm not even kidding.
Montreal '81
Could you please define "Montreal '81"? Is the same DVD footage that we've all seen a hundred times what you have, or do you have unreleased bits and pieces of both nights lying around?
In conclusion, thank you, Greg, for posting this! I know I'm a load of questions, and believe me, I've only scratched the surface of the questions I have about the archives, just based on what you've already posted. I'm sure I'll get to more in time, but God knows enough people have been asking questions. I fear for Brian May's inbox once this thread becomes heavily-publicized news among Queen fans!
O.k. So it is a mix of audio and film. Then what in the hell is the film out of the list? I thought that the point of discussion was what was on FILM and yet the list provided is of AUDIO and film? What the hell?
I agree with Alex Rocks - the original request for data, and promise to share, was regarding FOOTAGE (ie film, video, dvd). I don't quite know how audio stuff got into the discussion.
On the subject of audio, it seems a bit contradictory for Greg to list only what is deemed high enough quality to release when QP have already released loads of bootlegs 'officially', many of which are not what they say on the info, and many are in lesser quality than many collectors already have!
Anyway, what we want from this discussion (the audio question is another debate) is definitive list of what VISUAL FOOTAGE exists in the Queen Archive, and is possible/likely to ever be released on DVD (audio stuff will not be able to be released on a visual format).
In addition, why a special mention of Queen & Elton in 1997, but then neither the FM Tribute or Q&PR are included - a strange inconsistency???
On the subject of audio, it seems a bit contradictory for Greg to list only what is deemed high enough quality to release when QP have already released loads of bootlegs 'officially', many of which are not what they say on the info, and many are in lesser quality than many collectors already have!
Anyway, what we want from this discussion (the audio question is another debate) is definitive list of what VISUAL FOOTAGE exists in the Queen Archive, and is possible/likely to ever be released on DVD (audio stuff will not be able to be released on a visual format).
In addition, why a special mention of Queen & Elton in 1997, but then neither the FM Tribute or Q&PR are included - a strange inconsistency???
And what about Vienna 82 ......?
Is this list really complete.....?
Is this list really complete.....?
Queen Archivist wrote...
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That’s why Golders Green isn’t on here, for example… because we do not have that show on a serious format - only bits of it, like you have, on cassette. We don't even have an LP, or CD or DAT.
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I have this show on a BBC transcription Disc, mint condition and perfect sound quality.
If you'd like to talk about purchasing ths im all ears.
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That’s why Golders Green isn’t on here, for example… because we do not have that show on a serious format - only bits of it, like you have, on cassette. We don't even have an LP, or CD or DAT.
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I have this show on a BBC transcription Disc, mint condition and perfect sound quality.
If you'd like to talk about purchasing ths im all ears.
Uuuuhhhh! Here's the list in a LOGICAL order to follow other than...god...putting your Alphebit cereal in order. Sorry Mr. Brooks I know I'm sticking it to you right now!
Rainbow 74 (March) plus some of the Nov gig
Hyde Park 76
Earls Court 77
Houston 77
Hammy Odeon 79
Japan 79 (bits)
Munich 79
Paris 79
Montreal 81
Argentina 81
Brazil 81
Japan Seibu 82
Milton Keynes 82
Japan Tokyo 85
Rio 85
Live Aid 85
Budapest 86
Knebworth 86
Maine Road 86
Mannheim 86
Newcastle 86
Slane Castle 86
Wembley 86 x 2.
Paris 97 – Queen & Elton
Sheffield 05
Japan 05
So...what? It is good to know this list yet we have no knowledge what out of this list is film or audio which was the point of this discussion. What's the deal here? It was claimed in your original post Mr. Brooks that you all have FORTY audio recordings and yet some of the items on this list are supposedly just audio and not film? Huh?
So what about the Queen reunions that happened in the few years leading up to the "Return Of The Champions World Tour 2005-2006"? How many of these are filmed? http://www.queenconcerts.com/live/queen/postfreddie.html? It sure would be great if the Cowdray Festival was filmed with Roger's guest spots as well. I also hope that there is film with Wynnona Judd and Meat Loaf. Please tell me the Amsterdam festival and the 4664 shows are filmed for crying out loud.
I also have thought to understand Buddapest is filmed from the reunion tour in 2005 and SOME of Hyde Park '05. Does anyone know of any other proffessional film from that tour? I understand that there is the possiblity that some video was recorded from the screen shots at a or some shows. I still can't believe that Queen had a triumphant return to the U.S. with Entertainment Tonight covering (why didn't they film anything?) their first two shows which included Slash guesting on one song and yet nothing was filmed.
Rainbow 74 (March) plus some of the Nov gig
Hyde Park 76
Earls Court 77
Houston 77
Hammy Odeon 79
Japan 79 (bits)
Munich 79
Paris 79
Montreal 81
Argentina 81
Brazil 81
Japan Seibu 82
Milton Keynes 82
Japan Tokyo 85
Rio 85
Live Aid 85
Budapest 86
Knebworth 86
Maine Road 86
Mannheim 86
Newcastle 86
Slane Castle 86
Wembley 86 x 2.
Paris 97 – Queen & Elton
Sheffield 05
Japan 05
So...what? It is good to know this list yet we have no knowledge what out of this list is film or audio which was the point of this discussion. What's the deal here? It was claimed in your original post Mr. Brooks that you all have FORTY audio recordings and yet some of the items on this list are supposedly just audio and not film? Huh?
So what about the Queen reunions that happened in the few years leading up to the "Return Of The Champions World Tour 2005-2006"? How many of these are filmed? http://www.queenconcerts.com/live/queen/postfreddie.html? It sure would be great if the Cowdray Festival was filmed with Roger's guest spots as well. I also hope that there is film with Wynnona Judd and Meat Loaf. Please tell me the Amsterdam festival and the 4664 shows are filmed for crying out loud.
I also have thought to understand Buddapest is filmed from the reunion tour in 2005 and SOME of Hyde Park '05. Does anyone know of any other proffessional film from that tour? I understand that there is the possiblity that some video was recorded from the screen shots at a or some shows. I still can't believe that Queen had a triumphant return to the U.S. with Entertainment Tonight covering (why didn't they film anything?) their first two shows which included Slash guesting on one song and yet nothing was filmed.
Thanks Greg.
Reading this thread I very much see Greg's point of view about the people of QZ.
OK, there is a slight lack of clarity in his list, but the way everyone picks on it as "can't be true", "must be more" etc is disappointing.
I read the first post as "these are the shows we have a significant portion of the audio of, and some of them we also have video of", which seems reasonably clear, and I trust most of us to correctly establish which are audio and which are audio/video.
I am surprised that QP hasn't managed to pick up a Golder's Green master from the BBC (especially as they MUST have been in discussion re: Hammy 75 over the years, and appear to have got some Live Aid footage from the BBC for the new DVD), and I'm surprised that the nature of Greg's job (and his obsession with Queen that led to him getting that job) doesn't automatically result in accurate dates across the board.
No offence Greg, but we shouldn't have to ask "which Earl's Court/Nov Rainbow/Rio"...you know we're all nerd-ish bordering geek - cater for us a little...?
OK, there is a slight lack of clarity in his list, but the way everyone picks on it as "can't be true", "must be more" etc is disappointing.
I read the first post as "these are the shows we have a significant portion of the audio of, and some of them we also have video of", which seems reasonably clear, and I trust most of us to correctly establish which are audio and which are audio/video.
I am surprised that QP hasn't managed to pick up a Golder's Green master from the BBC (especially as they MUST have been in discussion re: Hammy 75 over the years, and appear to have got some Live Aid footage from the BBC for the new DVD), and I'm surprised that the nature of Greg's job (and his obsession with Queen that led to him getting that job) doesn't automatically result in accurate dates across the board.
No offence Greg, but we shouldn't have to ask "which Earl's Court/Nov Rainbow/Rio"...you know we're all nerd-ish bordering geek - cater for us a little...?
I've read this line ten times, "these are the shows we have a significant portion of the audio of, and some of them we also have video of". So which of this list are the filmed shows? I thought that was the point here. HELLLOO McFlllyyyyy?!
Thanks Greg for the info.
I'm sure you are not lying but the list for sure is not complete. I'll bet the shows like Mannheim and Hydepark 1986 are just audio. Read my last post. I knew this list was coming up. I just forgot to mention the audio shows and we almost have the same list. It was a nice trick and I doubt this is complete. I think QP are scared someone breaks in the archive and steals masters like at some conventions but who cares.
Thanks anyway.Much appreciated!!
I'm sure you are not lying but the list for sure is not complete. I'll bet the shows like Mannheim and Hydepark 1986 are just audio. Read my last post. I knew this list was coming up. I just forgot to mention the audio shows and we almost have the same list. It was a nice trick and I doubt this is complete. I think QP are scared someone breaks in the archive and steals masters like at some conventions but who cares.
Thanks anyway.Much appreciated!!
Argentina 81
Brazil 81
Budapest 86
Earls Court 77
Hammy Odeon 79
Hyde Park 76
Houston 77
Japan Seibu 82
Japan Tokyo 85
Japan 79 (bits)
Live Aid 85
Milton Keynes 82
Montreal 81
Munich 79
Paris 79
Rainbow 74 (March) plus some of the Nov gig
Rio 85
Wembley 86 x 2.
Paris 97 – Queen & Elton
looks about right to me
Brazil 81
Budapest 86
Earls Court 77
Hammy Odeon 79
Hyde Park 76
Houston 77
Japan Seibu 82
Japan Tokyo 85
Japan 79 (bits)
Live Aid 85
Milton Keynes 82
Montreal 81
Munich 79
Paris 79
Rainbow 74 (March) plus some of the Nov gig
Rio 85
Wembley 86 x 2.
Paris 97 – Queen & Elton
looks about right to me
Greg first of all many thanx for all the information provided :)
I have a couple of questions for you:
What about live footage previously included on Queen official videos such us: Tokyo 1975, Hammersmith 1975, Vienna 1982, Sydney 1985.
Why you didn't include them??
I'm also interested in knowing details about how much of Tokyo and Paris 1979 footage are there.
Any chance of full length of previously released Tokyo 1982, Rio 1985, Tokyo 1985, Budapest 1986??
I have a couple of questions for you:
What about live footage previously included on Queen official videos such us: Tokyo 1975, Hammersmith 1975, Vienna 1982, Sydney 1985.
Why you didn't include them??
I'm also interested in knowing details about how much of Tokyo and Paris 1979 footage are there.
Any chance of full length of previously released Tokyo 1982, Rio 1985, Tokyo 1985, Budapest 1986??
you can upload this concerts ???????