[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Nummer2 wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Do we need more proof that sharing mp3 files is bad? This is exactly what happens:
1 Once it was a lossless file
2 Then it was encoded to MP3 (for personal use, e.g.)
3 Then somebody shared it in MP3 format
4 Somebody downloaded it and burned it to a cd-r ( –> decoding to WAV)
5 Then somebody ripped the audio from the cd and encoded it to FLAC
6 Then someone shared it here, not knowing it was MP3 before
Run this cycle one or two more times and we have crappy distorted soundfiles of no value.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]josedequeso wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Just downloaded the first rar file, checked the flac files, all lossy, thought I'd let everyone know. Nice share tigger, but whether you knew it was lossy or not, you should always do a check before uploading a show and passing it off as flac.[/QUOTE]
Maybe he doesn't care, or he knew it! His comments on other threads are quite disturbing, i think QZ needs some more rules about sharing music! He attacks everyone who prefer flac and now he's polluting the trading scene with mp3 sourced flac's!
Please Moderators, make this a better place and ban this Ignorant!!!
Maybe he doesn't care, or he knew it! His comments on other threads are quite disturbing, i think QZ needs some more rules about sharing music! He attacks everyone who prefer flac and now he's polluting the trading scene with mp3 sourced flac's!
Please Moderators, make this a better place and ban this Ignorant!!!
Hello. Any chance to put this concert in torrent form ? Thank you
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Cygnus X-1 wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]josedequeso wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Just downloaded the first rar file, checked the flac files, all lossy, thought I'd let everyone know. Nice share tigger, but whether you knew it was lossy or not, you should always do a check before uploading a show and passing it off as flac.[/QUOTE]
Maybe he doesn't care, or he knew it! His comments on other threads are quite disturbing, i think QZ needs some more rules about sharing music! He attacks everyone who prefer flac and now he's polluting the trading scene with mp3 sourced flac's!
Please Moderators, make this a better place and ban this Ignorant!!!
[/QUOTE]I completely agree!
Maybe he doesn't care, or he knew it! His comments on other threads are quite disturbing, i think QZ needs some more rules about sharing music! He attacks everyone who prefer flac and now he's polluting the trading scene with mp3 sourced flac's!
Please Moderators, make this a better place and ban this Ignorant!!!
[/QUOTE]I completely agree!
hey!
can anybody upload the missing part?
I know this is lossy, but anyway I would like to have it in complete form! :)
thanks in advice!! ;)
can anybody upload the missing part?
I know this is lossy, but anyway I would like to have it in complete form! :)
thanks in advice!! ;)
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]on my way up wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Cygnus X-1 wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]josedequeso wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Just downloaded the first rar file, checked the flac files, all lossy, thought I'd let everyone know. Nice share tigger, but whether you knew it was lossy or not, you should always do a check before uploading a show and passing it off as flac.[/QUOTE]
Maybe he doesn't care, or he knew it! His comments on other threads are quite disturbing, i think QZ needs some more rules about sharing music! He attacks everyone who prefer flac and now he's polluting the trading scene with mp3 sourced flac's!
Please Moderators, make this a better place and ban this Ignorant!!!
[/QUOTE]I completely agree![/QUOTE]
You don't need me to second that, but I'll do it anyway. He is perhaps the worst thing to hit this section of the forum since Ted.
Nah, that's a bit harsh. But second-worst is still quite the crown.
Maybe he doesn't care, or he knew it! His comments on other threads are quite disturbing, i think QZ needs some more rules about sharing music! He attacks everyone who prefer flac and now he's polluting the trading scene with mp3 sourced flac's!
Please Moderators, make this a better place and ban this Ignorant!!!
[/QUOTE]I completely agree![/QUOTE]
You don't need me to second that, but I'll do it anyway. He is perhaps the worst thing to hit this section of the forum since Ted.
Nah, that's a bit harsh. But second-worst is still quite the crown.
Cygnus X-1 may be you are blind or may be you haven´t finished your primary school,read my post YOU IGNORANT,I said I HAVEN´T UPLOADED THESE FILES!just shared them,but anyway,who wants to waste time with children here?I don´t.....
*YAWN*
and to Mr-know-all GH(I wouldn´t call you SIR cos you´re just nobody)I don´t need the throne and I won´t upload FLAC just to get the "respect" here,I don´t need that like you,may be your life it´s too insignificant so you always need feedback "sir" and ban me I don´t care,I have a life out of here,I see you don´t,your life means critisize and bother here,but....*yawns*...I gotta go...
*YAWN*
and to Mr-know-all GH(I wouldn´t call you SIR cos you´re just nobody)I don´t need the throne and I won´t upload FLAC just to get the "respect" here,I don´t need that like you,may be your life it´s too insignificant so you always need feedback "sir" and ban me I don´t care,I have a life out of here,I see you don´t,your life means critisize and bother here,but....*yawns*...I gotta go...
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]L-R-TIGER1994 wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Cygnus X-1 may be you are blind or may be you haven´t finished your primary school,read my post YOU IGNORANT,I said I HAVEN´T UPLOADED THESE FILES!just shared them,but anyway,who wants to waste time with children here?I don´t.....
*YAWN*
and to Mr-know-all GH(I wouldn´t call you SIR cos you´re just nobody)I don´t need the throne and I won´t upload FLAC just to get the "respect" here,I don´t need that like you,may be your life it´s too insignificant so you always need feedback "sir" and ban me I don´t care,I have a life out of here,I see you don´t,your life means critisize and bother here,but....*yawns*...I gotta go...[/QUOTE]
sorry, would you be so kind as to upload the songs Tie Your Mother Down, Sheer Heart Attack and We Will Rock You? :)
thanks in advice! ;)
*YAWN*
and to Mr-know-all GH(I wouldn´t call you SIR cos you´re just nobody)I don´t need the throne and I won´t upload FLAC just to get the "respect" here,I don´t need that like you,may be your life it´s too insignificant so you always need feedback "sir" and ban me I don´t care,I have a life out of here,I see you don´t,your life means critisize and bother here,but....*yawns*...I gotta go...[/QUOTE]
sorry, would you be so kind as to upload the songs Tie Your Mother Down, Sheer Heart Attack and We Will Rock You? :)
thanks in advice! ;)
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]L-R-TIGER1994 wrote: [/QUOTENAME]may be your life it´s too insignificant so you always need feedback "sir" and ban me I don´t care,I have a life out of here[/QUOTE]
I'm so hurt. Really. But for the record, you'd be eating your words if you knew what I did for a living. I feel that I have accomplished much in 25 years, and that my life is far from insignificant. Not that you deserve an explanation, especially after judging me as a person, based on posts on a forum where people share unofficial recordings.
I share here because I promote quality preservation and spreading recordings as such. You are simply one of the few people who don't understand that, and feel the need to resort to personal attacks rather than trying to grasp what people like myself have been talking about here (and at virtually all other major 'unofficial music' sharing websites) for years.
Just curious... why did *you* of all people share FLAC?
Note that you ended up calling me "Sir" in the same paragraph where you said you wouldn't. Maybe I should also note that the "Sir" in my name is from when a bunch of us decided to knight ourselves for fun, rather than being some egotistical statement that you assume it is. Get over yourself, please.
I'm so hurt. Really. But for the record, you'd be eating your words if you knew what I did for a living. I feel that I have accomplished much in 25 years, and that my life is far from insignificant. Not that you deserve an explanation, especially after judging me as a person, based on posts on a forum where people share unofficial recordings.
I share here because I promote quality preservation and spreading recordings as such. You are simply one of the few people who don't understand that, and feel the need to resort to personal attacks rather than trying to grasp what people like myself have been talking about here (and at virtually all other major 'unofficial music' sharing websites) for years.
Just curious... why did *you* of all people share FLAC?
Note that you ended up calling me "Sir" in the same paragraph where you said you wouldn't. Maybe I should also note that the "Sir" in my name is from when a bunch of us decided to knight ourselves for fun, rather than being some egotistical statement that you assume it is. Get over yourself, please.
We shouldn't ban him, in my short couple of months on Queenzone he has provided me with many laughs, whether it is his comical "go fuck yourself" remarks to anyone who challenges him, or any of the other childish name calling he employs.
So nobody saw that I was being condescending in my first post in this thread? I am referring to my use of tigger (an American cartoon character, sidekick to the loveable Winnie the Pooh) rather than his real moniker “tiger”, (which is a ferocious animal)
I will await my “go fuck yourself”, tigger.
So nobody saw that I was being condescending in my first post in this thread? I am referring to my use of tigger (an American cartoon character, sidekick to the loveable Winnie the Pooh) rather than his real moniker “tiger”, (which is a ferocious animal)
I will await my “go fuck yourself”, tigger.
Oh, I thought that was a typo! Haha... brilliant.
In defence of Tiger. The guy has shared more gigs here over the years than most people. OK most of them are MP3, but that doesnt detract from his generosity. Fact is, there is STILL demand for them as his feedback shows. Who's to say people arent downloading them just for their iPods?
There is no law against sharing MP3. The Houston I shared even had lossy sound which probably wouldnt have made it on to some trading sites. The arguement saying it was rare so OK to share in lossy just doesnt wash, as what's rare to some is common to others.
I'm not suprised he's pissed off.
There is no law against sharing MP3. The Houston I shared even had lossy sound which probably wouldnt have made it on to some trading sites. The arguement saying it was rare so OK to share in lossy just doesnt wash, as what's rare to some is common to others.
I'm not suprised he's pissed off.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]L-R-TIGER1994 wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Cygnus X-1 may be you are blind or may be you haven´t finished your primary school,read my post YOU IGNORANT,I said I HAVEN´T UPLOADED THESE FILES!just shared them,but anyway,who wants to waste time with children here?I don´t.....
[/QUOTE]
I don't want to comment this shit, you don't know me, I don't know you either - so no personal attacks!
What is this fuzz all about? You are ignoring (and attacking) people who prefer lossless shares. That's maybe your opinion. But you see what happens when MP3 sourced shows circulate in the trading scene. Mp3 sourced flac's are the worst thing I can imagine. These shows are historical documents and should handled with care!
You know Fritz Lang's Metropolis? This Movie was made in 1926 and was copied & re-cut over and over thrue the years. After extencive research the movie was remastered and cut back to his original form, at least the footage who survived! 1/3 of this classic is forever lost, just because some people never cared about quality and preservation.
It's 2007 and we have the technology to preserve these recordings in their original form.
No other trading site accept MP3 shares these days, it is not your fault that things are different at QZ. But you can do something to make this place a littler more "grown up" and that's not to tell people to fuck themselfs or share lossy sourced material....
[/QUOTE]
I don't want to comment this shit, you don't know me, I don't know you either - so no personal attacks!
What is this fuzz all about? You are ignoring (and attacking) people who prefer lossless shares. That's maybe your opinion. But you see what happens when MP3 sourced shows circulate in the trading scene. Mp3 sourced flac's are the worst thing I can imagine. These shows are historical documents and should handled with care!
You know Fritz Lang's Metropolis? This Movie was made in 1926 and was copied & re-cut over and over thrue the years. After extencive research the movie was remastered and cut back to his original form, at least the footage who survived! 1/3 of this classic is forever lost, just because some people never cared about quality and preservation.
It's 2007 and we have the technology to preserve these recordings in their original form.
No other trading site accept MP3 shares these days, it is not your fault that things are different at QZ. But you can do something to make this place a littler more "grown up" and that's not to tell people to fuck themselfs or share lossy sourced material....
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]pow wow wrote: [/QUOTENAME]In defence of Tiger. The guy has shared more gigs here over the years than most people. OK most of them are MP3, but that doesnt detract from his generosity.[/QUOTE]
Note that it's far easier to share a show in mp3, because it takes far less time to upload it. Also note that he has not edited any of his recordings or created compilations to give the best version possible. He simply downloaded and reshared. Sharing mp3s should not deserve much credit in today's world of quality preservation. You're right, there is no law against mp3, but we should be doing our best to preserve the quality of these precious recordings, not make them worse than they already are. Honestly, converting an old recording to mp3 is like a historian handling ancient papyrus with dirty hands.
A high quality Houston is one of those things that people had been after for ages, and most people would be willing to make an exception if the only possibility was a lossy share. Since lossy sharing is permitted on this site, I think the only time it should be done, for the sake of quality preservation, is when there is no alternative.
The major problem with mp3s (as I've stated many times before) is that there are collectors (some of whom I have dealt with myself) who refuse to share their rare and uncirculated Queen recordings because they don't want them to be converted to mp3 - which they are confident will happen here. This place is notorious for being the place where people upload mp3s passed off as FLAC files. So, here we are with yet another version of the second night in Fukuoka '79 in lossy FLAC, when we could perhaps have had a new show from the '76 US tour by now.
I have done my research. Out of all the major bands, Queen has had the fewest number of new unofficial recordings emerge in the last ten years. This place is largely to blame. If Queenzone adopted quality standards, Queen collectors would start to gain respect in the wider collecting world, something which at the moment we have little of, if any at all. Yes, there is a collecting world outside of this website. Many downloaders still think these new recordings magically pop out of the sky.
Keeping in mind that FLAC can easily be converted to WAV and then mp3 for personal use, all I ask is for someone to provide a good explanation why lossy sharing shouldn't be banned - with exceptions like your Houston, which is still perhaps the greatest share in the history of this forum.
Note that it's far easier to share a show in mp3, because it takes far less time to upload it. Also note that he has not edited any of his recordings or created compilations to give the best version possible. He simply downloaded and reshared. Sharing mp3s should not deserve much credit in today's world of quality preservation. You're right, there is no law against mp3, but we should be doing our best to preserve the quality of these precious recordings, not make them worse than they already are. Honestly, converting an old recording to mp3 is like a historian handling ancient papyrus with dirty hands.
A high quality Houston is one of those things that people had been after for ages, and most people would be willing to make an exception if the only possibility was a lossy share. Since lossy sharing is permitted on this site, I think the only time it should be done, for the sake of quality preservation, is when there is no alternative.
The major problem with mp3s (as I've stated many times before) is that there are collectors (some of whom I have dealt with myself) who refuse to share their rare and uncirculated Queen recordings because they don't want them to be converted to mp3 - which they are confident will happen here. This place is notorious for being the place where people upload mp3s passed off as FLAC files. So, here we are with yet another version of the second night in Fukuoka '79 in lossy FLAC, when we could perhaps have had a new show from the '76 US tour by now.
I have done my research. Out of all the major bands, Queen has had the fewest number of new unofficial recordings emerge in the last ten years. This place is largely to blame. If Queenzone adopted quality standards, Queen collectors would start to gain respect in the wider collecting world, something which at the moment we have little of, if any at all. Yes, there is a collecting world outside of this website. Many downloaders still think these new recordings magically pop out of the sky.
Keeping in mind that FLAC can easily be converted to WAV and then mp3 for personal use, all I ask is for someone to provide a good explanation why lossy sharing shouldn't be banned - with exceptions like your Houston, which is still perhaps the greatest share in the history of this forum.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]pow wow wrote: [/QUOTENAME]
I have done my research. Out of all the major bands, Queen has had the fewest number of new unofficial recordings emerge in the last ten years. This place is largely to blame. If Queenzone adopted quality standards, Queen collectors would start to gain respect in the wider collecting world, something which at the moment we have little of, if any at all. Yes, there is a collecting world outside of this website. Many downloaders still think these new recordings magically pop out of the sky.
[/QUOTE]interesting!thanks
I often visit the traders' den and over there people share lots of great shows. I can advice everyone to go there and check it out! You will see that there are many people who have interesting things to say about recordings(of all major bands).Youwill learn more about unofficial recordings and quality! It would be great if queenzone would become like that but then of course for Queen and solo recordings only. I feel we are on our way. Many wonderful shows have been shared in recent months.
It is easy to understand why lossless is better. I do not understand someone like 'tiger'. Why do you want to share mp3's when there is something way better?
Watch the FLAC concerts list! That's a huge list.And I'm sure it will only grow. Just be a little patient:-)
I have done my research. Out of all the major bands, Queen has had the fewest number of new unofficial recordings emerge in the last ten years. This place is largely to blame. If Queenzone adopted quality standards, Queen collectors would start to gain respect in the wider collecting world, something which at the moment we have little of, if any at all. Yes, there is a collecting world outside of this website. Many downloaders still think these new recordings magically pop out of the sky.
[/QUOTE]interesting!thanks
I often visit the traders' den and over there people share lots of great shows. I can advice everyone to go there and check it out! You will see that there are many people who have interesting things to say about recordings(of all major bands).Youwill learn more about unofficial recordings and quality! It would be great if queenzone would become like that but then of course for Queen and solo recordings only. I feel we are on our way. Many wonderful shows have been shared in recent months.
It is easy to understand why lossless is better. I do not understand someone like 'tiger'. Why do you want to share mp3's when there is something way better?
Watch the FLAC concerts list! That's a huge list.And I'm sure it will only grow. Just be a little patient:-)