I don't understand it. If Freddie's pants are the main problem, why didn't they use footage from only 1 night for Jailhouse rock? I'm also angry that despite all the improvement we get once again an incomplete recording with an incorrect tracklist.
Thank god it was such a bad concert anyway. I can't imagine watching a butchered version of HamOdeon 1979, for example...
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[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]YourValentine wrote: [/QUOTENAME]What's wrong with the pants? I am a foreigner...[/QUOTE]
When I first read it, I thought it was supposed to be "parts", but I also believe that "pants" is a British word for undergarments, and "trousers" is the word for slacks, jeans, etc.
That's how I interpreted it... I'm not sure how it all goes in European countries.
When I first read it, I thought it was supposed to be "parts", but I also believe that "pants" is a British word for undergarments, and "trousers" is the word for slacks, jeans, etc.
That's how I interpreted it... I'm not sure how it all goes in European countries.
Oh, okay :)
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My memory is somewhat rusty but I was at one of these two concerts that were filmed (also at shows in 78 and 82)and the band started the show with Jailhouse Rock if I recall correctly but not a complete version. I remember finding it odd that they would start a show with a song that wasn't theirs.
In any case I was young and those were marvelous virtuoso performances that I will never forget!
Be glad that they have been captured and preserved and are being put out for all to enjoy regardless of "the order".
In any case I was young and those were marvelous virtuoso performances that I will never forget!
Be glad that they have been captured and preserved and are being put out for all to enjoy regardless of "the order".
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Trumpeter wrote: [/QUOTENAME]...the band started the show with Jailhouse Rock if I recall correctly [/QUOTE]
They did on The Game tour 1980 but not these two filmed shows.
You must have been in the Forum also in 1980 when Queen stopped by! :)
They did on The Game tour 1980 but not these two filmed shows.
You must have been in the Forum also in 1980 when Queen stopped by! :)
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Mr. Scully wrote: [/QUOTENAME]I don't understand it. If Freddie's pants are the main problem, why didn't they use footage from only 1 night for Jailhouse rock? [/QUOTE]
I assume that it was only played on the first night.
I assume that it was only played on the first night.
Had another, more detailed listen to the CD last night on headphones and I'm just stunned at how they have managed to mask Brian's sound - it literally sounds at times as if he's playing with a curtain in front of the AC30's. Whatever amount of compression they have used on the guitar tracks, it's WAY too much.
And, whilst I'm the first to say that Roger's drum sound is excellent throughout, it overpowers bothe the bass and lead guitar too such an extent that some of the cymbal crashes really started to hurt my ears.
Mr. Scully is right in that it was a "bad" (by Queen standards) show. How great would it have been if we were talking about Hammy '79 or Earls Court?
And, whilst I'm the first to say that Roger's drum sound is excellent throughout, it overpowers bothe the bass and lead guitar too such an extent that some of the cymbal crashes really started to hurt my ears.
Mr. Scully is right in that it was a "bad" (by Queen standards) show. How great would it have been if we were talking about Hammy '79 or Earls Court?
Whatever your view of the CD/DVD the one thing that needs to be considered is both Roger and Brian have been involved in this re-working and both will have had to sign off on the final product, so I would assume from that, that they are both happy with the result!
I think as with any audio track a lot will depend on the quality of the equipment you are listening to it on, there is no doubt in my mind that the DVD works very well in surround sound and in stereo. certainly the Bass and drums come off the best, but that would be difficult not to do considering the original.
I guess you have to assume that Brian wanted it to sound that way, if he was unhappy with it I guess it would have not been released until he was.
I think as with any audio track a lot will depend on the quality of the equipment you are listening to it on, there is no doubt in my mind that the DVD works very well in surround sound and in stereo. certainly the Bass and drums come off the best, but that would be difficult not to do considering the original.
I guess you have to assume that Brian wanted it to sound that way, if he was unhappy with it I guess it would have not been released until he was.
I've never seen anything like this thread on QZ before. A fan annoyed because a song is out of place and therefore makes the whole thing bad? Nah.
And I have to echo the idea that the drums overpower the bass, that's rubbish. I've listened to both dvd and cd and that is so wrong, it's not funny. The bass pushes very nicely on this release. I wonder if it's the best I've heard deacy in a long time, it's so good. I still haven't made my mind up about Brian's sound.
Also, if the cymbals are hurting your ears, that sounds like either the system you're listening on or having it too loud, etc. I've listened on my studio setup and my normal system and it hasn't had that effect at all. And I've been playing it loud!
Adam.
And I have to echo the idea that the drums overpower the bass, that's rubbish. I've listened to both dvd and cd and that is so wrong, it's not funny. The bass pushes very nicely on this release. I wonder if it's the best I've heard deacy in a long time, it's so good. I still haven't made my mind up about Brian's sound.
Also, if the cymbals are hurting your ears, that sounds like either the system you're listening on or having it too loud, etc. I've listened on my studio setup and my normal system and it hasn't had that effect at all. And I've been playing it loud!
Adam.
I too cant believe that someone is moaning about one song being out of place. Big deal. Get over it is what I say and mailing Brian will not change things either as what is done is done.
Beatles fans are a good example to go by imho. They never moaned about the correct running order of Sgt Pepper all those years ago - they just got on with listening an enjoying the music by programming the order on their CD or MP3 player. For those who are interested the running order should have been :-
1 Sgt Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band
2 With A Little Help From My Friends
3 Being For The Benefit Of Mr Kite
4 Fixing A Hole
5 Lucy In The Sky With Diamonds
6 Getting Better
7 She's Leaving Home
Beatles fans are a good example to go by imho. They never moaned about the correct running order of Sgt Pepper all those years ago - they just got on with listening an enjoying the music by programming the order on their CD or MP3 player. For those who are interested the running order should have been :-
1 Sgt Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band
2 With A Little Help From My Friends
3 Being For The Benefit Of Mr Kite
4 Fixing A Hole
5 Lucy In The Sky With Diamonds
6 Getting Better
7 She's Leaving Home
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<font color=FF9900>Mr Mercury</font> wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Beatles fans are a good example to go by imho. They never moaned about the correct running order of Sgt Pepper all those years ago - they just got on with listening an enjoying the music by programming the order on their CD or MP3 player. For those who are interested the running order should have been :-
1 Sgt Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band
2 With A Little Help From My Friends
3 Being For The Benefit Of Mr Kite
4 Fixing A Hole
5 Lucy In The Sky With Diamonds
6 Getting Better
7 She's Leaving Home[/QUOTE]
That's a lame excuse, because that's a studio album and not a live performance. If it had been a live performance and the concert was all disorganized like that, then yeah, maybe there might have been a problem. Sgt Pepper is such a legendary album, that if Paul and George and Ringo and George M. had decided in 1987 (when it was first truly revealed the running order), "Let's use this original line-up instead of the one that people have known for years," can you imagine how many fans and critics would have cried foul of this? You don't mess with perfection!
1 Sgt Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band
2 With A Little Help From My Friends
3 Being For The Benefit Of Mr Kite
4 Fixing A Hole
5 Lucy In The Sky With Diamonds
6 Getting Better
7 She's Leaving Home[/QUOTE]
That's a lame excuse, because that's a studio album and not a live performance. If it had been a live performance and the concert was all disorganized like that, then yeah, maybe there might have been a problem. Sgt Pepper is such a legendary album, that if Paul and George and Ringo and George M. had decided in 1987 (when it was first truly revealed the running order), "Let's use this original line-up instead of the one that people have known for years," can you imagine how many fans and critics would have cried foul of this? You don't mess with perfection!
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Lester Burnham wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<font color=FF9900>Mr Mercury</font> wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Beatles fans are a good example to go by imho. They never moaned about the correct running order of Sgt Pepper all those years ago - they just got on with listening an enjoying the music by programming the order on their CD or MP3 player. For those who are interested the running order should have been :-
1 Sgt Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band
2 With A Little Help From My Friends
3 Being For The Benefit Of Mr Kite
4 Fixing A Hole
5 Lucy In The Sky With Diamonds
6 Getting Better
7 She's Leaving Home[/QUOTE]
That's a lame excuse, because that's a studio album and not a live performance. If it had been a live performance and the concert was all disorganized like that, then yeah, maybe there might have been a problem. Sgt Pepper is such a legendary album, that if Paul and George and Ringo and George M. had decided in 1987 (when it was first truly revealed the running order), "Let's use this original line-up instead of the one that people have known for years," can you imagine how many fans and critics would have cried foul of this? You don't mess with perfection! [/QUOTE]
Hi Lester, I know that was a studio album but my point was still the same. Its only one track out of running order on the "new" Queen CD's, not 5 as it is on the Pepper album.
Off topic - are you doing anymore Queen related books Lester?
1 Sgt Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band
2 With A Little Help From My Friends
3 Being For The Benefit Of Mr Kite
4 Fixing A Hole
5 Lucy In The Sky With Diamonds
6 Getting Better
7 She's Leaving Home[/QUOTE]
That's a lame excuse, because that's a studio album and not a live performance. If it had been a live performance and the concert was all disorganized like that, then yeah, maybe there might have been a problem. Sgt Pepper is such a legendary album, that if Paul and George and Ringo and George M. had decided in 1987 (when it was first truly revealed the running order), "Let's use this original line-up instead of the one that people have known for years," can you imagine how many fans and critics would have cried foul of this? You don't mess with perfection! [/QUOTE]
Hi Lester, I know that was a studio album but my point was still the same. Its only one track out of running order on the "new" Queen CD's, not 5 as it is on the Pepper album.
Off topic - are you doing anymore Queen related books Lester?
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<font color=FF9900>Mr Mercury</font> wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Off topic - are you doing anymore Queen related books Lester?[/QUOTE]
I hear he's writing a Milli Vanilli book.
I hear he's writing a Milli Vanilli book.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Erin wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<font color=FF9900>Mr Mercury</font> wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Off topic - are you doing anymore Queen related books Lester?[/QUOTE]
I hear he's writing a Milli Vanilli book.[/QUOTE]
He'll probably just hire a ghost-writer for that book.
I hear he's writing a Milli Vanilli book.[/QUOTE]
He'll probably just hire a ghost-writer for that book.