Why, indeed?
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Lester Burnham wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]My Mini Mercury wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]junketerQ2 wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Sorry, but being gay is definitely a lifetsyle choice!!!
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It's true. I know this sounds cliche but being a pedophile is a choice too.
Being a pervert is a choice.
Being a rapist is a choice.
Being a homosexual is a choice.
Being a thief or bank robber is a choice.
Or maybe it is all genetic? Doesn't make it right, anyhow. What strikes me is how we got from condemning such a thing years ago, to now declaring one a hero if he admits to homosexuality. Could it be that this society we live in is so morally sick and in denial that we have no other choice?
Well, I have a choice and I don't care if you call me a homophobe. It doesn't bother me in the least, because I'm fully aware of the depraved world I live in.
And by the way, I don't care for alot of rules either, before anyone goes calling me a stiff prude. I'm kind of rebellious at heart. But that doesn't stop me from knowing right from wrong.
I'm still going to have fun.
At the end of the day, after a wonderful fun filled day at work I'm still gonna eat dinner with a nice glass of cabernet.[/QUOTE]
Being ignorant is a choice too. Why do you choose to be ignorant?[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]My Mini Mercury wrote: [/QUOTENAME]
What strikes me is how we got from condemning such a thing years ago, to now declaring one a hero if he admits to homosexuality. Could it be that this society we live in is so morally sick and in denial that we have no other choice?[/QUOTE]
Yes, I think it must be that because if you consider other things we condemned years ago - like women voting or blacks and whites sharing the same public space - and how our views have changed, then it could only be because society is sick and in denial.
Or, here's a thought, part of society, the part that accepts people for who they are and as equals, has simply matured. Whereas others... have not.
What strikes me is how we got from condemning such a thing years ago, to now declaring one a hero if he admits to homosexuality. Could it be that this society we live in is so morally sick and in denial that we have no other choice?[/QUOTE]
Yes, I think it must be that because if you consider other things we condemned years ago - like women voting or blacks and whites sharing the same public space - and how our views have changed, then it could only be because society is sick and in denial.
Or, here's a thought, part of society, the part that accepts people for who they are and as equals, has simply matured. Whereas others... have not.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]magicalfreddiemercury wrote:
Yes, I think it must be that because if you consider other things we condemned years ago - like women voting or blacks and whites sharing the same public space - and how our views have changed, then it could only be because society is sick and in denial.
Or, here's a thought, part of society, the part that accepts people for who they are and as equals, has simply matured. Whereas others... have not.
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Women voting and being born black has got nothing to do with a sexual perversion.
And if we must accept people for how they are then why not accept EVERYTHING? Why not accept an underage teenage girl (let's say 14) can have sex with a thirty seven year old man, so long as she's willing? Last time I looked it's still illegal.
Yes, I think it must be that because if you consider other things we condemned years ago - like women voting or blacks and whites sharing the same public space - and how our views have changed, then it could only be because society is sick and in denial.
Or, here's a thought, part of society, the part that accepts people for who they are and as equals, has simply matured. Whereas others... have not.
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Women voting and being born black has got nothing to do with a sexual perversion.
And if we must accept people for how they are then why not accept EVERYTHING? Why not accept an underage teenage girl (let's say 14) can have sex with a thirty seven year old man, so long as she's willing? Last time I looked it's still illegal.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]magicalfreddiemercury wrote:
Yes, I think it must be that because if you consider other things we condemned years ago - like women voting or blacks and whites sharing the same public space - and how our views have changed, then it could only be because society is sick and in denial.
Or, here's a thought, part of society, the part that accepts people for who they are and as equals, has simply matured. Whereas others... have not.
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I didn't expect ANYONE on this board to take my side and I was right. Kind of amusing actually.
Women voting and being born black has got nothing to do with a sexual perversion.
And if we must accept people for how they are then why not accept EVERYTHING? Why not accept an underage teenage girl (let's say 14) can have sex with a thirty seven year old man, so long as she's willing? Last time I looked it's still illegal.
Oh.....and because I don't have my own swimming pool I have a very strong desire sometimes to sneak off into my neighbors VERY inviting 9 ft deep swimming pool stark naked for a late night swim. Who could I be hurting? Noone really. Except that's my neighbors property and it's still against the law. There's nothing either I or the nice friendly swimming pool can do about it. So I refrain because I'd rather not be in jail.
I'd also like to cut through my neighbors yard as a shortcut to get home when I'm walking sometimes, but I can't do that either. It would be called trespassing. I accept it.
When my dog runs through said neighbors yard on occasion, I get much grief over it. They even called the police on me one day because my dog was in their yard. He wasn't doing anything, just laying on their porch because he used to live there (The people who used to live their gave him to me.)
But that was ok, we accepted it and he has to stay inside my house when Im gone so he won't go over there.
I'm just a little sick and tired of gays in the media and workplace trying to rub their lifestyle off in everyone's face. If you want to do it in private, go ahead. But why try to tell everyone else it's ok?
It's human nature to wanna run naked and free.
But we do it in private and we are ok with it.
So why can't the gays do the same? Nobody can tell you how to live your life. Just do it in private and quit rubbing it in everyone's face.
BTW, I fear greatly when I have kids and they have to grow up in a world where sexual immorality and perversion is the norm. It's my duty to teach them otherwise.
Yes, I think it must be that because if you consider other things we condemned years ago - like women voting or blacks and whites sharing the same public space - and how our views have changed, then it could only be because society is sick and in denial.
Or, here's a thought, part of society, the part that accepts people for who they are and as equals, has simply matured. Whereas others... have not.
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I didn't expect ANYONE on this board to take my side and I was right. Kind of amusing actually.
Women voting and being born black has got nothing to do with a sexual perversion.
And if we must accept people for how they are then why not accept EVERYTHING? Why not accept an underage teenage girl (let's say 14) can have sex with a thirty seven year old man, so long as she's willing? Last time I looked it's still illegal.
Oh.....and because I don't have my own swimming pool I have a very strong desire sometimes to sneak off into my neighbors VERY inviting 9 ft deep swimming pool stark naked for a late night swim. Who could I be hurting? Noone really. Except that's my neighbors property and it's still against the law. There's nothing either I or the nice friendly swimming pool can do about it. So I refrain because I'd rather not be in jail.
I'd also like to cut through my neighbors yard as a shortcut to get home when I'm walking sometimes, but I can't do that either. It would be called trespassing. I accept it.
When my dog runs through said neighbors yard on occasion, I get much grief over it. They even called the police on me one day because my dog was in their yard. He wasn't doing anything, just laying on their porch because he used to live there (The people who used to live their gave him to me.)
But that was ok, we accepted it and he has to stay inside my house when Im gone so he won't go over there.
I'm just a little sick and tired of gays in the media and workplace trying to rub their lifestyle off in everyone's face. If you want to do it in private, go ahead. But why try to tell everyone else it's ok?
It's human nature to wanna run naked and free.
But we do it in private and we are ok with it.
So why can't the gays do the same? Nobody can tell you how to live your life. Just do it in private and quit rubbing it in everyone's face.
BTW, I fear greatly when I have kids and they have to grow up in a world where sexual immorality and perversion is the norm. It's my duty to teach them otherwise.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]My Mini Mercury wrote: [/QUOTENAME] [QUOTE][QUOTENAME]magicalfreddiemercury wrote: [/QUOTENAME]
Yes, I think it must be that because if you consider other things we condemned years ago - like women voting or blacks and whites sharing the same public space - and how our views have changed, then it could only be because society is sick and in denial.
Or, here's a thought, part of society, the part that accepts people for who they are and as equals, has simply matured. Whereas others... have not.
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Women voting and being born black has got nothing to do with a sexual perversion.
And if we must accept people for how they are then why not accept EVERYTHING? Why not accept an underage teenage girl (let's say 14) can have sex with a thirty seven year old man, so long as she's willing? Last time I looked it's still illegal.
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That's where maturity comes into play. It's understanding the difference between who people ARE and what people DO. Not everyone is able to distinguish between the two. Apparently.
Yes, I think it must be that because if you consider other things we condemned years ago - like women voting or blacks and whites sharing the same public space - and how our views have changed, then it could only be because society is sick and in denial.
Or, here's a thought, part of society, the part that accepts people for who they are and as equals, has simply matured. Whereas others... have not.
[/QUOTE]
Women voting and being born black has got nothing to do with a sexual perversion.
And if we must accept people for how they are then why not accept EVERYTHING? Why not accept an underage teenage girl (let's say 14) can have sex with a thirty seven year old man, so long as she's willing? Last time I looked it's still illegal.
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That's where maturity comes into play. It's understanding the difference between who people ARE and what people DO. Not everyone is able to distinguish between the two. Apparently.
I forgot to mention there was a guy about a year ago who was arrested for public masturbation.
Today everyone would consider public masturbation appalling. Yes, even you.
But consider 20, maybe 30 years from now when society tells us we have to accept that sort of deviant behavior because, afterall it's not hurting anyone. Sounds sick, huh?
Well that's because right now we live in the dark ages and that form of behavior is not acceptable.
Someday we will have another societal awakening where we must accept such behavior. Mark my words.
Today everyone would consider public masturbation appalling. Yes, even you.
But consider 20, maybe 30 years from now when society tells us we have to accept that sort of deviant behavior because, afterall it's not hurting anyone. Sounds sick, huh?
Well that's because right now we live in the dark ages and that form of behavior is not acceptable.
Someday we will have another societal awakening where we must accept such behavior. Mark my words.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]magicalfreddiemercury wrote: [/QUOTENAME]
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That's where maturity comes into play. It's understanding the difference between who people ARE and what people DO. Not everyone is able to distinguish between the two. Apparently.
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A black man is a black man. It's WHO HE IS. It has nothing to do with what he DOES unless racial descrimination comes into play, and he finds he can't do everything he wants to do because he feels he is being chastised because of his race, something he can't help.
A gay man out of the closet is a gay man. That's who he is and it most definitely determines what he DOES.
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That's where maturity comes into play. It's understanding the difference between who people ARE and what people DO. Not everyone is able to distinguish between the two. Apparently.
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A black man is a black man. It's WHO HE IS. It has nothing to do with what he DOES unless racial descrimination comes into play, and he finds he can't do everything he wants to do because he feels he is being chastised because of his race, something he can't help.
A gay man out of the closet is a gay man. That's who he is and it most definitely determines what he DOES.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]My Mini Mercury wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]magicalfreddiemercury wrote: [/QUOTENAME]
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That's where maturity comes into play. It's understanding the difference between who people ARE and what people DO. Not everyone is able to distinguish between the two. Apparently.
[/QUOTE]
A black man is a black man. It's WHO HE IS. It has nothing to do with what he DOES unless racial descrimination comes into play, and he finds he can't do everything he wants to do because he feels he is being chastised because of his race, something he can't help.
A gay man out of the closet is a gay man. That's who he is and it most definitely determines what he DOES.[/QUOTE]
And what exactly DOES he do? Does his sexual preference harm you, or indeed anyone? Perhaps you will claim that, yes, homosexuality erodes the fiber of decent god-fearing societies etc. etc. Personally I believe that the god-fearing folk who tie gay men to fences and beat them after dragging them behind their pickup-truck are at the heart of my own nation's disgusting amoral decline, but hey, what do I know? Surly two men who love each other is a far more heinous crime than the persecution and death of a hated minority.
Yes, gays are a minority. They are oppressed, which leads to the 'disgusting' displays you refer to. It is the nature of the oppressed to seek freedom and equal rights (the struggle for black and gendered rights is fully applicable to the harrowing oppression facing the modern homosexual). Also, let me share a little tale with you.
I am bisexual. I am also a suffered of severe, nigh-debilitating Obsessive Compulsive Disorder, kept at bay with a delightful drug cocktail. For the majority of my life I agonized over my own potentiality for homosexuality. I experimented with male friends in my youth, which led me to whip myself with a belt as penance (I was raised Catholic). The agony I suffered on behalf of my faith and personal values (which at that time were based on that faith) tormented me constantly. Complex rituals were devised to disprove my homosexual attraction. I visited numerous psychologists. I finally was forced to quit my job and slowly, slowly earn an Associates Degree at my local community college. Not exactly the life I had envisioned.
Fortunately for me I was able (with the help of some new medications)to chase away my personal demons. Many of my obsessions were groundless (that my head would start expanding, that I could never blink to the left, and so on), and evaporated with time and effort. However, I was forced to come to terms with my own bisexuality, a process that is ongoing. I am shamed by my own weakness in this matter. Indeed, I feel the desperate urge to tell you all that I am currently engaged to my girlfriend of five years, that we are fiercely in love and so on. I need you to know this, because I still wage a vicious and largely unresolvable battle with my innate sexuality and the beliefs that were drummed into me as a member of a highly corrosive religion sect (I am, you may have guessed, no longer Catholic).
You are upset by homosexuality because it does not fit into your narrow and bigoted view of the world. There is no connection between homosexuality and crimes of any sort; this is the difference between homosexuality and pedophilia, ie molesting children harms the child's psyche for life, whereas sex between two consenting adults is far from life-destroying. In fact, it can prove rather pleasant from time to time.
This argument holds true for all the other myriad misleading arguments proposed against homosexuals. It is not like sleeping with a dog, due to the fact that there is mutual affection, potentially love and full human consent involved with the act (rape is another matter that plagues people of any sexuality). It is not like masturbating in public, due to the fact that you are not exposing others to a potentially harmful and abusive
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That's where maturity comes into play. It's understanding the difference between who people ARE and what people DO. Not everyone is able to distinguish between the two. Apparently.
[/QUOTE]
A black man is a black man. It's WHO HE IS. It has nothing to do with what he DOES unless racial descrimination comes into play, and he finds he can't do everything he wants to do because he feels he is being chastised because of his race, something he can't help.
A gay man out of the closet is a gay man. That's who he is and it most definitely determines what he DOES.[/QUOTE]
And what exactly DOES he do? Does his sexual preference harm you, or indeed anyone? Perhaps you will claim that, yes, homosexuality erodes the fiber of decent god-fearing societies etc. etc. Personally I believe that the god-fearing folk who tie gay men to fences and beat them after dragging them behind their pickup-truck are at the heart of my own nation's disgusting amoral decline, but hey, what do I know? Surly two men who love each other is a far more heinous crime than the persecution and death of a hated minority.
Yes, gays are a minority. They are oppressed, which leads to the 'disgusting' displays you refer to. It is the nature of the oppressed to seek freedom and equal rights (the struggle for black and gendered rights is fully applicable to the harrowing oppression facing the modern homosexual). Also, let me share a little tale with you.
I am bisexual. I am also a suffered of severe, nigh-debilitating Obsessive Compulsive Disorder, kept at bay with a delightful drug cocktail. For the majority of my life I agonized over my own potentiality for homosexuality. I experimented with male friends in my youth, which led me to whip myself with a belt as penance (I was raised Catholic). The agony I suffered on behalf of my faith and personal values (which at that time were based on that faith) tormented me constantly. Complex rituals were devised to disprove my homosexual attraction. I visited numerous psychologists. I finally was forced to quit my job and slowly, slowly earn an Associates Degree at my local community college. Not exactly the life I had envisioned.
Fortunately for me I was able (with the help of some new medications)to chase away my personal demons. Many of my obsessions were groundless (that my head would start expanding, that I could never blink to the left, and so on), and evaporated with time and effort. However, I was forced to come to terms with my own bisexuality, a process that is ongoing. I am shamed by my own weakness in this matter. Indeed, I feel the desperate urge to tell you all that I am currently engaged to my girlfriend of five years, that we are fiercely in love and so on. I need you to know this, because I still wage a vicious and largely unresolvable battle with my innate sexuality and the beliefs that were drummed into me as a member of a highly corrosive religion sect (I am, you may have guessed, no longer Catholic).
You are upset by homosexuality because it does not fit into your narrow and bigoted view of the world. There is no connection between homosexuality and crimes of any sort; this is the difference between homosexuality and pedophilia, ie molesting children harms the child's psyche for life, whereas sex between two consenting adults is far from life-destroying. In fact, it can prove rather pleasant from time to time.
This argument holds true for all the other myriad misleading arguments proposed against homosexuals. It is not like sleeping with a dog, due to the fact that there is mutual affection, potentially love and full human consent involved with the act (rape is another matter that plagues people of any sexuality). It is not like masturbating in public, due to the fact that you are not exposing others to a potentially harmful and abusive
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]My Mini Mercury wrote: [/QUOTENAME]
A black man is a black man. It's WHO HE IS. It has nothing to do with what he DOES unless racial descrimination comes into play, and he finds he can't do everything he wants to do because he feels he is being chastised because of his race, something he can't help.
A gay man out of the closet is a gay man. That's who he is and it most definitely determines what he DOES. [/QUOTE]
I see what you mean. It's like those in-your-face religious types. You know the ones. Jews who wear a talis, christians with golden crosses around their necks for all the world to see, and muslims kneeling and bowing every few hours.
Jew, christian and muslim is what they are AND definitely determines what they DO. Each is a perversion to the other if the other is bigoted. Fortunately, society has less and less tolerance for bigotry.
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[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]LozlanTheMage wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]My Mini Mercury wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]magicalfreddiemercury wrote: [/QUOTENAME]
That's where maturity comes into play. It's understanding the difference between who people ARE and what people DO. Not everyone is able to distinguish between the two. Apparently.
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A black man is a black man. It's WHO HE IS. It has nothing to do with what he DOES unless racial descrimination comes into play, and he finds he can't do everything he wants to do because he feels he is being chastised because of his race, something he can't help.
A gay man out of the closet is a gay man. That's who he is and it most definitely determines what he DOES. [/QUOTE]
And what exactly DOES he do? Does his sexual preference harm you, or indeed anyone? Perhaps you will claim that, yes, homosexuality erodes the fiber of decent god-fearing societies etc. etc. Personally I believe that the god-fearing folk who tie gay men to fences and beat them after dragging them behind their pickup-truck are at the heart of my own nation's disgusting amoral decline, but hey, what do I know? Surly two men who love each other is a far more heinous crime than the persecution and death of a hated minority.
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Brilliant, Lozlan. Excellent post (in it's entirety).
A black man is a black man. It's WHO HE IS. It has nothing to do with what he DOES unless racial descrimination comes into play, and he finds he can't do everything he wants to do because he feels he is being chastised because of his race, something he can't help.
A gay man out of the closet is a gay man. That's who he is and it most definitely determines what he DOES. [/QUOTE]
I see what you mean. It's like those in-your-face religious types. You know the ones. Jews who wear a talis, christians with golden crosses around their necks for all the world to see, and muslims kneeling and bowing every few hours.
Jew, christian and muslim is what they are AND definitely determines what they DO. Each is a perversion to the other if the other is bigoted. Fortunately, society has less and less tolerance for bigotry.
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[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]LozlanTheMage wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]My Mini Mercury wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]magicalfreddiemercury wrote: [/QUOTENAME]
That's where maturity comes into play. It's understanding the difference between who people ARE and what people DO. Not everyone is able to distinguish between the two. Apparently.
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A black man is a black man. It's WHO HE IS. It has nothing to do with what he DOES unless racial descrimination comes into play, and he finds he can't do everything he wants to do because he feels he is being chastised because of his race, something he can't help.
A gay man out of the closet is a gay man. That's who he is and it most definitely determines what he DOES. [/QUOTE]
And what exactly DOES he do? Does his sexual preference harm you, or indeed anyone? Perhaps you will claim that, yes, homosexuality erodes the fiber of decent god-fearing societies etc. etc. Personally I believe that the god-fearing folk who tie gay men to fences and beat them after dragging them behind their pickup-truck are at the heart of my own nation's disgusting amoral decline, but hey, what do I know? Surly two men who love each other is a far more heinous crime than the persecution and death of a hated minority.
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Brilliant, Lozlan. Excellent post (in it's entirety).
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]LozlanTheMage wrote:[/QUOTE]
<<And what exactly DOES he do? Does his sexual preference harm you, or indeed anyone?
Perhaps you will claim that, yes, homosexuality erodes the fiber of decent god-fearing societies etc. etc. >>
YES. THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I'M SAYING. RUNNING STARK NAKED THROUGH THE STREETS DOESN'T HARM ANYONE EITHER, AT LEAST IN THE SENSE YOUR PUTTING IT.
THE HOMOSEXUAL AGENDA, DOES DO GREAT HARM TO OUR SOCIETY. I'LL SAY IT AGAIN. KEEP IT TO YOURSELF. DON'T RUB IT IN MY FACE AND MAKE IT YOUR PERSONAL AGENDA TO TELL MY FUTURE CHILDREN "IT'S OK TO BE GAY."
Personally I believe that the god-fearing folk who tie gay men to fences and beat them after dragging them behind their pickup-truck are at the heart of my own nation's disgusting amoral decline, but hey, what do I know? Surly two men who love each other is a far more heinous crime than the persecution and death of a hated minority.
PEOPLE WHO DO BODILY HARM TO OTHER PEOPLE OR ANIMALS ARE SICK HUMANS. AND THEY AREN'T GOD FEARING CHRISTIANS. THERE ARE JUST AS MANY SICKOS OUT THERE WHO CLAIM TO BE GOD FEARING CHRISTIANS AND THEY DO JUST AS MUCH HARM TO OUR SOCIETY.
<<Yes, gays are a minority. They are oppressed, which leads to the 'disgusting' displays you refer to. It is the nature of the oppressed to seek freedom and equal rights (the struggle for black and gendered rights is fully applicable to the harrowing oppression facing the modern homosexual). >>
NO, IT'S NOT. NOONE CAN CHOOSE THE COLOR OF THEIR SKIN OR THEIR GENDER. LIFESTYLE (IE. RUNNING THROUGH THE STREETS NAKED AND SAME SEX KISSING IN PUBLIC)AND GENETICS ARE TWO TOTALLY DIFFERENT THINGS.
<<Also, let me share a little tale with you.
I am bisexual. >>
I ALREADY GUESSED THAT. ONLY I WASN'T QUITE SURE IF YOUR WERE MERELY A BISEXUAL OR A FULL OUT HOMOSEXUAL. THANKS FOR CLEARING THAT UP.
<<I am also a suffered of severe, nigh-debilitating Obsessive Compulsive Disorder, kept at bay with a delightful drug cocktail. For the majority of my life I agonized over my own potentiality for homosexuality. I experimented with male friends in my youth, which led me to whip myself with a belt as penance (I was raised Catholic). The agony I suffered on behalf of my faith and personal values (which at that time were based on that faith) tormented me constantly. Complex rituals were devised to disprove my homosexual attraction. I visited numerous psychologists.>>
I'M SORRY ABOUT YOUR PSYCHOLOGICAL PROBLEMS. ALOT OF PEOPLE HAVE THEM AND NEED TO SEEK COUNSELING.
THIS TALE SOUNDS ALOT LIKE A PSYCHOLOGICAL PROFILING ON CNN I SAW A COUPLE YEARS AGO. THERE WERE CONFESSIONS FROM A CONVICTED RAPIST WHO TOLD IN MINUTE DETAIL THE AGONIES HE FACED WHEN NIGHT FELL AND HE COULDN'T RESTRAIN HIMSELF FROM GOING OUT AND FINDING ANOTHER VICTIM TO RAPE. THERE WERE TEARS IN HIS EYES AS HE BEGGED FOR UNDERSTANDING AND MERCY.
THEN THERE WAS THE CLASSIC CHILD MOLESTER. HE COULDN'T CONTROL HIS APPETITE FOR YOUNG CHILDREN. IT WAS IN HIS BLOOD. HE KNEW HE NEEDED TO BE LOCKED UP, BUT HE WAS PLEADING FOR UNDERSTANDING AND MERCY AT THE SAME TIME.
<<I finally was forced to quit my job and slowly, slowly earn an Associates Degree at my local community college. Not exactly the life I had envisioned.>>
HOW UNFORTUNATE! THIS BRINGS ME TO TEARS...
<<Fortunately for me I was able (with the help of some new medications)to chase away my personal demons. Many of my obsessions were groundless (that my head would start expanding, that I could never blink to the left, and so on), and evaporated with time and effort. However, I was forced to come to terms with my own bisexuality, a process that is ongoing. I am shamed by my own weakness in this matter. Indeed, I feel the desperate urge to tell you all that I am currently engaged to my girlfriend of five years, that we are fiercely in love
<<And what exactly DOES he do? Does his sexual preference harm you, or indeed anyone?
Perhaps you will claim that, yes, homosexuality erodes the fiber of decent god-fearing societies etc. etc. >>
YES. THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I'M SAYING. RUNNING STARK NAKED THROUGH THE STREETS DOESN'T HARM ANYONE EITHER, AT LEAST IN THE SENSE YOUR PUTTING IT.
THE HOMOSEXUAL AGENDA, DOES DO GREAT HARM TO OUR SOCIETY. I'LL SAY IT AGAIN. KEEP IT TO YOURSELF. DON'T RUB IT IN MY FACE AND MAKE IT YOUR PERSONAL AGENDA TO TELL MY FUTURE CHILDREN "IT'S OK TO BE GAY."
Personally I believe that the god-fearing folk who tie gay men to fences and beat them after dragging them behind their pickup-truck are at the heart of my own nation's disgusting amoral decline, but hey, what do I know? Surly two men who love each other is a far more heinous crime than the persecution and death of a hated minority.
PEOPLE WHO DO BODILY HARM TO OTHER PEOPLE OR ANIMALS ARE SICK HUMANS. AND THEY AREN'T GOD FEARING CHRISTIANS. THERE ARE JUST AS MANY SICKOS OUT THERE WHO CLAIM TO BE GOD FEARING CHRISTIANS AND THEY DO JUST AS MUCH HARM TO OUR SOCIETY.
<<Yes, gays are a minority. They are oppressed, which leads to the 'disgusting' displays you refer to. It is the nature of the oppressed to seek freedom and equal rights (the struggle for black and gendered rights is fully applicable to the harrowing oppression facing the modern homosexual). >>
NO, IT'S NOT. NOONE CAN CHOOSE THE COLOR OF THEIR SKIN OR THEIR GENDER. LIFESTYLE (IE. RUNNING THROUGH THE STREETS NAKED AND SAME SEX KISSING IN PUBLIC)AND GENETICS ARE TWO TOTALLY DIFFERENT THINGS.
<<Also, let me share a little tale with you.
I am bisexual. >>
I ALREADY GUESSED THAT. ONLY I WASN'T QUITE SURE IF YOUR WERE MERELY A BISEXUAL OR A FULL OUT HOMOSEXUAL. THANKS FOR CLEARING THAT UP.
<<I am also a suffered of severe, nigh-debilitating Obsessive Compulsive Disorder, kept at bay with a delightful drug cocktail. For the majority of my life I agonized over my own potentiality for homosexuality. I experimented with male friends in my youth, which led me to whip myself with a belt as penance (I was raised Catholic). The agony I suffered on behalf of my faith and personal values (which at that time were based on that faith) tormented me constantly. Complex rituals were devised to disprove my homosexual attraction. I visited numerous psychologists.>>
I'M SORRY ABOUT YOUR PSYCHOLOGICAL PROBLEMS. ALOT OF PEOPLE HAVE THEM AND NEED TO SEEK COUNSELING.
THIS TALE SOUNDS ALOT LIKE A PSYCHOLOGICAL PROFILING ON CNN I SAW A COUPLE YEARS AGO. THERE WERE CONFESSIONS FROM A CONVICTED RAPIST WHO TOLD IN MINUTE DETAIL THE AGONIES HE FACED WHEN NIGHT FELL AND HE COULDN'T RESTRAIN HIMSELF FROM GOING OUT AND FINDING ANOTHER VICTIM TO RAPE. THERE WERE TEARS IN HIS EYES AS HE BEGGED FOR UNDERSTANDING AND MERCY.
THEN THERE WAS THE CLASSIC CHILD MOLESTER. HE COULDN'T CONTROL HIS APPETITE FOR YOUNG CHILDREN. IT WAS IN HIS BLOOD. HE KNEW HE NEEDED TO BE LOCKED UP, BUT HE WAS PLEADING FOR UNDERSTANDING AND MERCY AT THE SAME TIME.
<<I finally was forced to quit my job and slowly, slowly earn an Associates Degree at my local community college. Not exactly the life I had envisioned.>>
HOW UNFORTUNATE! THIS BRINGS ME TO TEARS...
<<Fortunately for me I was able (with the help of some new medications)to chase away my personal demons. Many of my obsessions were groundless (that my head would start expanding, that I could never blink to the left, and so on), and evaporated with time and effort. However, I was forced to come to terms with my own bisexuality, a process that is ongoing. I am shamed by my own weakness in this matter. Indeed, I feel the desperate urge to tell you all that I am currently engaged to my girlfriend of five years, that we are fiercely in love
Great post, LozlanTheMage. Thank you for opening your heart in order to make people understand what gay people still have to face these days. It's just a shame that your words are totally wasted on the topic starter who rather reads a weirdo like Ahundova. You will never reach such people.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]My Mini Mercury wrote: [/QUOTENAME]
Being gay IS dishonorable. It's not normal.
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[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Treasure Moment wrote: [/QUOTENAME]freddie was gay because its a genetic thing, thats what he was, he didnt choose it you ignorant fucking moron[/QUOTE]
Finally, society has an answer for this often pondered question. And it happened here, on Queenzone.
Being gay IS dishonorable. It's not normal.
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[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Treasure Moment wrote: [/QUOTENAME]freddie was gay because its a genetic thing, thats what he was, he didnt choose it you ignorant fucking moron[/QUOTE]
Finally, society has an answer for this often pondered question. And it happened here, on Queenzone.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]LozlanTheMage wrote: [/QUOTENAME]I am bisexual. I am also a suffered of severe, nigh-debilitating Obsessive Compulsive Disorder, kept at bay with a delightful drug cocktail. For the majority of my life I agonized over my own potentiality for homosexuality. I experimented with male friends in my youth, which led me to whip myself with a belt as penance[/QUOTE]
Okay, way way way too much information there.
I was raised catholic as well, but if anyone told me to whip myself, I'd tell them to go f**k themselves.
And then I'd wank-off to lesbian porn... again.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]LozlanTheMage wrote: [/QUOTENAME] Gay men tend to catch a great deal of flack from ignorant jackholes who spend their evenings wanking off to lesbian porn.
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Oops.
Okay, way way way too much information there.
I was raised catholic as well, but if anyone told me to whip myself, I'd tell them to go f**k themselves.
And then I'd wank-off to lesbian porn... again.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]LozlanTheMage wrote: [/QUOTENAME] Gay men tend to catch a great deal of flack from ignorant jackholes who spend their evenings wanking off to lesbian porn.
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Oops.
Ummmm, ok - what a heated discusssion - lol.
Well, I'll just add that Freddie was in a man/woman relationship for some years with Mary Austin & then he decided/chose to end it to live a gay lifestyle - CHOICE!!!
Well, I'll just add that Freddie was in a man/woman relationship for some years with Mary Austin & then he decided/chose to end it to live a gay lifestyle - CHOICE!!!
I had a friend who learned that her mid-twenties son was gay. She could not accept it and went to a lot of PFLAG meetings (Parents and Friends of Lesbians and Gays.) That didn't help unitl someone asked her, "Would you rather he have no love in his life at all?"