[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]HistoryGirl wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Wow...I'm lucky I opened this thread when I was still at home. Had I opened this when I was in my office with my office mate in there she would have killed me! (She's studying Middle Eastern History)
It is funny in a morbid sort of way...but I can only appreciate the humor on a limited level. I still find it a gross representation of Middle Eastern culture and Islam. [/QUOTE]
Misrepresentation is an irreplaceable pillar of humor. I'll admit to finding humor in jokes pertaining to Blacks enjoying fried chicken, blondes being borderline retarded, and Muslims committing acts of terrorism. However, there is a rather thick black line between humor and reality, and as long as one recognizes this, there is no harm in such comedy (unless you're a stiff who irrationally and easily takes offense at humor).
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Also, stop lumping all Republicans/Conservatives together. There are generally two varieties:
Main Street Republicans/Neo-Conservatives/Morons
and
Wall Street Republicans/Classic Conservatives/Classical Liberals/Libertarians/Anyone who has ever opened an economics textbook/Intelligent People
Somewhere in between lie liberals, otherwise known as those who have never opened an economics textbook (or perhaps have opened it, but never cared to read or understand it).
Main Street Republicans/Neo-Conservatives/Morons
and
Wall Street Republicans/Classic Conservatives/Classical Liberals/Libertarians/Anyone who has ever opened an economics textbook/Intelligent People
Somewhere in between lie liberals, otherwise known as those who have never opened an economics textbook (or perhaps have opened it, but never cared to read or understand it).
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<font color=666600><b>Music Man wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]HistoryGirl wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Wow...I'm lucky I opened this thread when I was still at home. Had I opened this when I was in my office with my office mate in there she would have killed me! (She's studying Middle Eastern History)
It is funny in a morbid sort of way...but I can only appreciate the humor on a limited level. I still find it a gross representation of Middle Eastern culture and Islam. [/QUOTE]
Misrepresentation is an irreplaceable pillar of humor. I'll admit to finding humor in jokes pertaining to Blacks enjoying fried chicken, blondes being borderline retarded, and Muslims committing acts of terrorism. However, there is a rather thick black line between humor and reality, and as long as one recognizes this, there is no harm in such comedy (unless you're a stiff who irrationally and easily takes offense at humor).[/QUOTE]
there is also the line of tact. when people cross that, its no longer funny.
the 'too soon' law
the 'insult/attack of personal matter (or hitting below the belt)/malice of a joke' law
and 'the media hasnt beaten the dead horse yet' law are all unwritten laws of comedy that should be avoided, or at least i get the consensus of.
example: school shootings. not a laughing matter right? but lets say the media shows it non stop for weeks straight. people go from shock, to sympathetic to annoyed. thats when it becomes a joke, because its everywhere, and since who knows when, comedy has always been the remedy for tragedy :) mostly because its so ridiculously gratuitous in false information, and exagerated, to the point where it shows disrespect. so the public returns a favor.
another example: race jokes. why look around the room? there are stereotypes made, because a fraction of the race has represented some bad aspects, and that goes for all races. so we make fun of that. nobody is nessesarily generalizing that particular race, but some are funny (lets face it) and majority of us are not rascist, so what have we to hide?
however when one does generalize, and truly have some kind of malice towards a race, thats when it is no longer funny, and actually quite pathetic, and even crosses the line of 'shock value' to shame.
last example: your loved one dies of cancer. most of us joke about death often, sometimes if someone gets a cut ive heard people joke and say 'dont get your AIDS on me!' but if someone close to you died of AIDS or cancer, you dont want to hear about any joke about it. so if someone did joke directly to you about it, with that tragedy, you would probably be pissed, right? rightly so. it would be tactless. but wait a while, when the shock and stages wear away, and it becomes something funny to joke about again.
It is funny in a morbid sort of way...but I can only appreciate the humor on a limited level. I still find it a gross representation of Middle Eastern culture and Islam. [/QUOTE]
Misrepresentation is an irreplaceable pillar of humor. I'll admit to finding humor in jokes pertaining to Blacks enjoying fried chicken, blondes being borderline retarded, and Muslims committing acts of terrorism. However, there is a rather thick black line between humor and reality, and as long as one recognizes this, there is no harm in such comedy (unless you're a stiff who irrationally and easily takes offense at humor).[/QUOTE]
there is also the line of tact. when people cross that, its no longer funny.
the 'too soon' law
the 'insult/attack of personal matter (or hitting below the belt)/malice of a joke' law
and 'the media hasnt beaten the dead horse yet' law are all unwritten laws of comedy that should be avoided, or at least i get the consensus of.
example: school shootings. not a laughing matter right? but lets say the media shows it non stop for weeks straight. people go from shock, to sympathetic to annoyed. thats when it becomes a joke, because its everywhere, and since who knows when, comedy has always been the remedy for tragedy :) mostly because its so ridiculously gratuitous in false information, and exagerated, to the point where it shows disrespect. so the public returns a favor.
another example: race jokes. why look around the room? there are stereotypes made, because a fraction of the race has represented some bad aspects, and that goes for all races. so we make fun of that. nobody is nessesarily generalizing that particular race, but some are funny (lets face it) and majority of us are not rascist, so what have we to hide?
however when one does generalize, and truly have some kind of malice towards a race, thats when it is no longer funny, and actually quite pathetic, and even crosses the line of 'shock value' to shame.
last example: your loved one dies of cancer. most of us joke about death often, sometimes if someone gets a cut ive heard people joke and say 'dont get your AIDS on me!' but if someone close to you died of AIDS or cancer, you dont want to hear about any joke about it. so if someone did joke directly to you about it, with that tragedy, you would probably be pissed, right? rightly so. it would be tactless. but wait a while, when the shock and stages wear away, and it becomes something funny to joke about again.
You are right, and your points are well-taken. However, the art of humor is to push or test the boundaries of tact. You'd be surprised at how well a proper delivery can completely eliminate the "too soon" rule, or how that rule can be specifically used to comedic effect.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<font color=teal>Cookies?<h6>A Scientist wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Thanks, these will really help me next month when I'll be on holiday in Islamabad.
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EDIT: Ahh, anyone hear about the teenage girl who went off to the Middle East to meet this guy from Myspace? D: What a dumbfuck. Any way, it's on Dr. Phil tomorrow and I'm gonna watch it. xD[/QUOTE]
I saw it. The girl looked like she was on crack! :O
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EDIT: Ahh, anyone hear about the teenage girl who went off to the Middle East to meet this guy from Myspace? D: What a dumbfuck. Any way, it's on Dr. Phil tomorrow and I'm gonna watch it. xD[/QUOTE]
I saw it. The girl looked like she was on crack! :O
"last example: your loved one dies of cancer. most of us joke about death often, sometimes if someone gets a cut ive heard people joke and say 'dont get your AIDS on me!' but if someone close to you died of AIDS or cancer, you dont want to hear about any joke about it. so if someone did joke directly to you about it, with that tragedy, you would probably be pissed, right? rightly so. it would be tactless. but wait a while, when the shock and stages wear away, and it becomes something funny to joke about again."
OR...
http://youtube.com/watch?v=fsHk9WC7fnQ
I think I'll stick with Cleese on this.
OR...
http://youtube.com/watch?v=fsHk9WC7fnQ
I think I'll stick with Cleese on this.