He "wouldn't be so certain" doesn't mean he will "have a heart attack" ! I think he puts things in perspective.
Sorry for Darfur and so on, but that had nothing to do here. So don't talk about this if it has nothing to do here.
He just means that as he cares about quality and preservation of the music, he is not sure his recording will be able to reach every queen fan safely, without having been transformed in mp3 somewhere along the road. But for the Genesis files he is a lot more cool, because he knows 99% of the fans will respect the tape and the recording. He is a lot more confident too that the Genesis fans will spread this recording very easily, not using mp3. and he will be certain noboy will have the bad taste of converting it in mp3 to try making him have a heart attack !
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[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Jan78 wrote: [/QUOTENAME]what do you say about Darfur, what do you say about children dying every 3 seconds.[/QUOTE]
That's noble of you to care, but the fact that many of us care about the quality of music at this forum doesn't necessarily mean we don't care about world issues such as those you mentioned above.
Not that you're entitled to know what I do with my life outside this forum, but every time I go on the computer, I check my news website before I do anything else. Does the fact that I go to Queenzone at some point afterward negate the fact that I just became aware of what's going on in the world?
That's noble of you to care, but the fact that many of us care about the quality of music at this forum doesn't necessarily mean we don't care about world issues such as those you mentioned above.
Not that you're entitled to know what I do with my life outside this forum, but every time I go on the computer, I check my news website before I do anything else. Does the fact that I go to Queenzone at some point afterward negate the fact that I just became aware of what's going on in the world?
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Generally, you're right, but banning mp3 certainly wouldn't hurt. Like I said, people who think mp3 is equally good would wonder why mp3s are banned, and ultimately, there would be fewer people passing off mp3 as lossless.
I admire your efforts, but you're still wrong. In fact, your attitude is incredibly arrogant, because you are continuing to challenge the way EVERY other decent trading community does their business, and continue to insist that your ways are better than theirs.
Honestly, do you think the Zeppelin, Rush, Genesis, and Floyd communities would have so many new recordings each year if the new sources and upgrades were shared lossy?
The answer is obviously no. They all know the answer is no, and that's why the tapers are happy to share their recordings - because they know the quality will be preserved.
As for the Cologne 79 compilation, which you shared as mp3, you not only insulted my efforts (taking years to find all the sources, and weeks to compile them and clean up every bit of the recording), but you also insulted the tapers. They took the risks by bringing recording gear and blank tapes into the venues, and they are the only reason why we have so much knowledge about Queen as a live band. As a thank you for their efforts, their recordings should remain in the best quality possible. The "needs" of people who want small and convenient mp3 files should not be greater than the need to show respect for the tapers, whoever and wherever these great people are.
Never do I seek attention or recognition, but this is something I just have to do this once. Have a look at this list of recordings:
London 3-31-74 (pre-LP)
London 9-18-76 (uncut audience recording)
New York 2-5-77 (I complained about an mp3 share of Boston 82, and the taper showed up in the topic, where he said he taped 5 shows. Had someone not opened their mouth, we wouldn't have found five master copies of shows. I only highlight this NY show because it's a bit longer than the previous copies)
Uniondale 2-6-77 (master DVD)
London 10-6-77 (compilation)
Philadelphia 11-23-77 (second generation)
New York 12-1-77 (alternate source and compilation)
Stockholm 4-12-78 (alternate source, second generation)
Chicago 12-7-78 (master copy)
Berlin 1-24-79 (8mm video of It's Late synched to different audio source)
Cologne 2-1-79 (two sources, compilation)
Frankfurt 2-2-79 (lowest generation)
Tokyo 4-23-79 (first generation)
Newcastle 12-4-79 (lowest generation)
Oakland 7-14-80 (third generation)
Montreal 8-29-80 (master copy)
Milwaukee 9-10-80 (second generation)
Essen 11-29-80 (first generation)
Frankfurt 12-14-80 (lowest generation)
Tokyo 2-13-81 (first generation)
Buenos Aires 2-28-81 (first generation from soundboard)
Buenos Aires 3-8-81 (first generation audience)
Puebla 10-17-81 (first generation, compilation)
Puebla 10-18-81 (second generation, compilation)
Stockholm 4-10-82 (first generation)
Vienna 5-12-82 (alternate source)
Milton Keynes 6-5-82 (audience recording)
Chicago 8-13-82 (as in this topic)
Oakland 9-7-82 (lowest generation)
Berlin 9-24-84 (second generation)
All you pro-mp3ers, how many of the above recordings do you have? In all probability, you wouldn't have any of them if it weren't for me. I'm the one who either found the tapers themselves (or in some cases, they found me) or low generation copies, and circulated them in one way or another. Many other people (here and elsewhere) have done as much and more. I could easily speak highly of many other people who have spent virtually immeasurable time making the contacts, finding the recordings, in some cases transferring the recordings, creating compilations when need be, and finally spreading them.
If it weren't for people like us, your collections would consist of official releases, and a few silvers and bootleg LPs, if you were ambitious e
I admire your efforts, but you're still wrong. In fact, your attitude is incredibly arrogant, because you are continuing to challenge the way EVERY other decent trading community does their business, and continue to insist that your ways are better than theirs.
Honestly, do you think the Zeppelin, Rush, Genesis, and Floyd communities would have so many new recordings each year if the new sources and upgrades were shared lossy?
The answer is obviously no. They all know the answer is no, and that's why the tapers are happy to share their recordings - because they know the quality will be preserved.
As for the Cologne 79 compilation, which you shared as mp3, you not only insulted my efforts (taking years to find all the sources, and weeks to compile them and clean up every bit of the recording), but you also insulted the tapers. They took the risks by bringing recording gear and blank tapes into the venues, and they are the only reason why we have so much knowledge about Queen as a live band. As a thank you for their efforts, their recordings should remain in the best quality possible. The "needs" of people who want small and convenient mp3 files should not be greater than the need to show respect for the tapers, whoever and wherever these great people are.
Never do I seek attention or recognition, but this is something I just have to do this once. Have a look at this list of recordings:
London 3-31-74 (pre-LP)
London 9-18-76 (uncut audience recording)
New York 2-5-77 (I complained about an mp3 share of Boston 82, and the taper showed up in the topic, where he said he taped 5 shows. Had someone not opened their mouth, we wouldn't have found five master copies of shows. I only highlight this NY show because it's a bit longer than the previous copies)
Uniondale 2-6-77 (master DVD)
London 10-6-77 (compilation)
Philadelphia 11-23-77 (second generation)
New York 12-1-77 (alternate source and compilation)
Stockholm 4-12-78 (alternate source, second generation)
Chicago 12-7-78 (master copy)
Berlin 1-24-79 (8mm video of It's Late synched to different audio source)
Cologne 2-1-79 (two sources, compilation)
Frankfurt 2-2-79 (lowest generation)
Tokyo 4-23-79 (first generation)
Newcastle 12-4-79 (lowest generation)
Oakland 7-14-80 (third generation)
Montreal 8-29-80 (master copy)
Milwaukee 9-10-80 (second generation)
Essen 11-29-80 (first generation)
Frankfurt 12-14-80 (lowest generation)
Tokyo 2-13-81 (first generation)
Buenos Aires 2-28-81 (first generation from soundboard)
Buenos Aires 3-8-81 (first generation audience)
Puebla 10-17-81 (first generation, compilation)
Puebla 10-18-81 (second generation, compilation)
Stockholm 4-10-82 (first generation)
Vienna 5-12-82 (alternate source)
Milton Keynes 6-5-82 (audience recording)
Chicago 8-13-82 (as in this topic)
Oakland 9-7-82 (lowest generation)
Berlin 9-24-84 (second generation)
All you pro-mp3ers, how many of the above recordings do you have? In all probability, you wouldn't have any of them if it weren't for me. I'm the one who either found the tapers themselves (or in some cases, they found me) or low generation copies, and circulated them in one way or another. Many other people (here and elsewhere) have done as much and more. I could easily speak highly of many other people who have spent virtually immeasurable time making the contacts, finding the recordings, in some cases transferring the recordings, creating compilations when need be, and finally spreading them.
If it weren't for people like us, your collections would consist of official releases, and a few silvers and bootleg LPs, if you were ambitious e
I don't know if this is just a back stab, or if you are telling the truth. But even if so, sometimes it needs going through hard times to achieve knowledge. I've been banned from a serious file sharing community, too, just because of carelessness and ignorance. But since then I know, how it works and I respect the rules.
The SirGH that I know from QZ never cheated anybody about his shared shows and he put a huge amount of work into his shares. His contributions are always welcome, but of course sometimes controversial. I don't care what kind of person he is in private (at least not yet), but in terms of Queen he's one of the good chaps.
The SirGH that I know from QZ never cheated anybody about his shared shows and he put a huge amount of work into his shares. His contributions are always welcome, but of course sometimes controversial. I don't care what kind of person he is in private (at least not yet), but in terms of Queen he's one of the good chaps.
I don't think this person is referring to me personally, as I have never done any of those above things, nor have I been banned from Dime. But I do have a very good idea of who/what this person is referring to.
Sure, there are a few pretty nasty people in the Queen collecting world who have done those above things, but why should the actions of a few destroy it for the rest?
That said, why do new Zeppelin tapes consistently get out, bearing in mind some of the Zeppelin collectors who make playing dirty a full-time job? I really don't need to name names, do I? Broken promises, lying, and all those other things certainly aren't unique to Queen collectors.
I definitely welcome a good discussion on this matter, if our anonymous "user" would like to join in.
Sure, there are a few pretty nasty people in the Queen collecting world who have done those above things, but why should the actions of a few destroy it for the rest?
That said, why do new Zeppelin tapes consistently get out, bearing in mind some of the Zeppelin collectors who make playing dirty a full-time job? I really don't need to name names, do I? Broken promises, lying, and all those other things certainly aren't unique to Queen collectors.
I definitely welcome a good discussion on this matter, if our anonymous "user" would like to join in.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote: [/QUOTENAME]
but why should the actions of a few destroy it for the rest?
[/QUOTE]
Because trust is mandatory and once you have broken a rule you are out. Theres more trading going on than you ever heard about but we know who can be trusted. I tell you that a couple of mp3s on this site has *NOTHING* to do with it. These recordings are out anyway. Call us hoarders - your choice.
I may be anonymous for you but not for others.
but why should the actions of a few destroy it for the rest?
[/QUOTE]
Because trust is mandatory and once you have broken a rule you are out. Theres more trading going on than you ever heard about but we know who can be trusted. I tell you that a couple of mp3s on this site has *NOTHING* to do with it. These recordings are out anyway. Call us hoarders - your choice.
I may be anonymous for you but not for others.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]User wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Because trust is mandatory and once you have broken a rule you are out. Theres more trading going on than you ever heard about but we know who can be trusted. I tell you that a couple of mp3s on this site has *NOTHING* to do with it. These recordings are out anyway. Call us hoarders - your choice.
I may be anonymous for you but not for others.[/QUOTE]
Suit yourself. Just please don't try to belittle me by saying there's more going on than I know of. Who says I have to say everything I know about on this forum, or even in emails?
For the record, mp3 may not be the reason why those tapes you're referring to are being kept under wraps, but there are other people out there who refuse to share their goods for that reason.
But, back to topic. Perhaps I do know which tapes you're talking about and who betrayed who's trust, but I'd have to have some kind of confirmation to be sure we're on the same page. Of course you can email me if you'd like.
I may be anonymous for you but not for others.[/QUOTE]
Suit yourself. Just please don't try to belittle me by saying there's more going on than I know of. Who says I have to say everything I know about on this forum, or even in emails?
For the record, mp3 may not be the reason why those tapes you're referring to are being kept under wraps, but there are other people out there who refuse to share their goods for that reason.
But, back to topic. Perhaps I do know which tapes you're talking about and who betrayed who's trust, but I'd have to have some kind of confirmation to be sure we're on the same page. Of course you can email me if you'd like.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote: [/QUOTENAME]
Suit yourself. I'm sorry that's the way it had to be. But for the record, please don't try to belittle me by saying there's more going on than I know of. Who says I have to say everything I know on this forum? [/QUOTE]
Its the simple truth - you dont know much of whats going on. If you feel belittled its your bad luck. Take comfort in the adulation from the kids on Queenzone, rofl.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote: [/QUOTENAME]But, back to topic. Perhaps I do know which tapes you're talking about and who betrayed who's trust, but I'd have to have some kind of confirmation to be sure we're on the same page. [/QUOTE]
You dont get it. You dont play in this league. If you think hard, you know why.
Nice signature
Suit yourself. I'm sorry that's the way it had to be. But for the record, please don't try to belittle me by saying there's more going on than I know of. Who says I have to say everything I know on this forum? [/QUOTE]
Its the simple truth - you dont know much of whats going on. If you feel belittled its your bad luck. Take comfort in the adulation from the kids on Queenzone, rofl.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote: [/QUOTENAME]But, back to topic. Perhaps I do know which tapes you're talking about and who betrayed who's trust, but I'd have to have some kind of confirmation to be sure we're on the same page. [/QUOTE]
You dont get it. You dont play in this league. If you think hard, you know why.
Nice signature
Give me a break – there really are people out there, who "play in a different league", who "know what's going on" and laugh about the "kids" at QZ? Wow, and I thought, Special Agent or atom scientist was a cool profession. Man, how I'd like to be one of those supertraders, who – I almost don't believe it – own a handful of Queen concert bootlegs, that only very few people in the world have heard of?? Man, that's almost as cool as being a member of the band!
Thank god, I'm not in your business ...
Thank god, I'm not in your business ...
Good for you, Nummer2. We all have our priorities. Queenzone is a nice place, no bad word about it. My words were for Robert and he understood me right.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]User wrote: [/QUOTENAME]You dont get it. You dont play in this league. If you think hard, you know why.[/QUOTE]
If being in "your league" requires me to have your arrogance, I'm glad I'm not in it. I'm satisfied not having a couple more recordings.
If being in "your league" requires me to have your arrogance, I'm glad I'm not in it. I'm satisfied not having a couple more recordings.
Roberts bedtime prayer:
"God, I thank Thee that I am not like these tapers whose rules I dont respect and who dont let me come and play. God, I thank Thee that I am so unselfish and educate the masses to follow my rules which are the only rules. God, I thank Thee that they are so arrogant and I am so modest, never do I seek attention or recognition, always do I do what is the best for me, myself and my monkey, amen."
Just a joke, darling. Sour grapes.
"God, I thank Thee that I am not like these tapers whose rules I dont respect and who dont let me come and play. God, I thank Thee that I am so unselfish and educate the masses to follow my rules which are the only rules. God, I thank Thee that they are so arrogant and I am so modest, never do I seek attention or recognition, always do I do what is the best for me, myself and my monkey, amen."
Just a joke, darling. Sour grapes.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]User wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote: [/QUOTENAME]
Suit yourself. I'm sorry that's the way it had to be. But for the record, please don't try to belittle me by saying there's more going on than I know of. Who says I have to say everything I know on this forum? [/QUOTE]
Its the simple truth - you dont know much of whats going on. If you feel belittled its your bad luck. Take comfort in the adulation from the kids on Queenzone, rofl.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote: [/QUOTENAME]But, back to topic. Perhaps I do know which tapes you're talking about and who betrayed who's trust, but I'd have to have some kind of confirmation to be sure we're on the same page. [/QUOTE]
You dont get it. You dont play in this league. If you think hard, you know why.
Nice signature [/QUOTE]What a ridiculous post!
Suit yourself. I'm sorry that's the way it had to be. But for the record, please don't try to belittle me by saying there's more going on than I know of. Who says I have to say everything I know on this forum? [/QUOTE]
Its the simple truth - you dont know much of whats going on. If you feel belittled its your bad luck. Take comfort in the adulation from the kids on Queenzone, rofl.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote: [/QUOTENAME]But, back to topic. Perhaps I do know which tapes you're talking about and who betrayed who's trust, but I'd have to have some kind of confirmation to be sure we're on the same page. [/QUOTE]
You dont get it. You dont play in this league. If you think hard, you know why.
Nice signature [/QUOTE]What a ridiculous post!
Sir Gh reaches out his hand and you spit on it. You should be ashamed!
Who's the kid then?
Who's the kid then?