Thanks Greg.
Hopefully, and as you suggest, we may one day get a release of this concert, if purely for historical reasons as their last gig. A CD release of the whole gig (Live Magic still sounds better from a mix point of view that Live At Wembley), with bonus DVD of what footage exists, interviews with the band, documentary about the gig, interviews with famous people who attended? etc...
Greg - on an almost related point, I started a thread a long while back (link here http://queenzone.com/queenzone/forumnew/forum_topic_view.aspx?Q=858678) regarding a different mix of the Wembley 86 vinyl release. Do you have any info regarding this please??
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I 'm not sure but the last live performance of the Beatles is also incomplete (and I am talking about audio).
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]dsmeer wrote: [/QUOTENAME]I 'm not sure but the last live performance of the Beatles is also incomplete (and I am talking about audio).[/QUOTE]
Yep, you're right. The common recording cuts out after about 27 minutes, and I don't think another one exists.
Greg...
Great, promising post. Loved the humour.
Yep, you're right. The common recording cuts out after about 27 minutes, and I don't think another one exists.
Greg...
Great, promising post. Loved the humour.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]on my way up wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]bas asselbergs wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Hi GB...I just ran back a handycam tape i filmed at a convention during a Q & A session when the question was asked. (that was allowed by the way...!) if such a recording existed and why it had never been released. Your answer then, was: It was filmed, but during large sections of the recording the audio got damaged or had a lot of sound lost or in a very bad quality with subnoises that can't be taken out without the rest getting worse aswell...and that it would be impossible to ever re-record it as Freddie isn't with us anymore, and that although the images are superb, the sound is much too bad for an official release to Queenstandards...and that THAT is the reason why it will not see the light of day as a Queen DVD.... does this still stand?[/QUOTE]You can easily proof it by uploading the video file.
What you say is totally the opposite of what greg says in his post above. You'll understand we need proof before we can believe you:-)[/QUOTE]
If Bas says that he has this on tape - then I can guarantee he has this on tape. He has nothing to prove here - or among genuine collectors.
Rather, I - like he, (because we are not privy to the inside story) would like to know how this official explanation has changed from one account into another.
If NOT a genuine mistake, (and let's face it - that is why they put erasers at the end of pencils) this original explanation then seems to me to be either incompetence at best - or at worse - deliberate misinformation, and I would just like to ask why in either case.
As I wrote in another thread:
"If the video footage does NOT exist - perhaps it could be re-created (in total or in part) from all the various segments or fragments which DO exist?
For example, I know that various 'Doctor Who' stories have been reconstructed, and that versions of 'The Invasion' the 'Ice Warriors' and the original 'Autons' have all been remade using all sorts of varying techniques... If so, I also like the idea that an official 'Budapest' DVD release could have an additional bonus Kebworth (or best of) disc."
What you say is totally the opposite of what greg says in his post above. You'll understand we need proof before we can believe you:-)[/QUOTE]
If Bas says that he has this on tape - then I can guarantee he has this on tape. He has nothing to prove here - or among genuine collectors.
Rather, I - like he, (because we are not privy to the inside story) would like to know how this official explanation has changed from one account into another.
If NOT a genuine mistake, (and let's face it - that is why they put erasers at the end of pencils) this original explanation then seems to me to be either incompetence at best - or at worse - deliberate misinformation, and I would just like to ask why in either case.
As I wrote in another thread:
"If the video footage does NOT exist - perhaps it could be re-created (in total or in part) from all the various segments or fragments which DO exist?
For example, I know that various 'Doctor Who' stories have been reconstructed, and that versions of 'The Invasion' the 'Ice Warriors' and the original 'Autons' have all been remade using all sorts of varying techniques... If so, I also like the idea that an official 'Budapest' DVD release could have an additional bonus Kebworth (or best of) disc."
Who says it doesn't exist somewhere else besides the almighty Queen archives?
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]DavidRFuller wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Who says it doesn't exist somewhere else besides the almighty Queen archives?[/QUOTE]
I don't think the is any way we can prove it doesn't exist elsewhere, but this topic specifically addresses its absence from the official archive.
let's all hope that there was a record button hit somewhere from the video screen feeds, and that it turns up in some backroom of a video productions company, or someone's basement someday!
I don't think the is any way we can prove it doesn't exist elsewhere, but this topic specifically addresses its absence from the official archive.
let's all hope that there was a record button hit somewhere from the video screen feeds, and that it turns up in some backroom of a video productions company, or someone's basement someday!
Hindsight is a wonderful thing.They mightn't had known knebworth would be the last concert ever they mightn't had bothered filming it since wembley was already done.
I really like Phil Collins' cover of "Tomorrow Never Knows." This was Phil's best solo album, if you ask me, although Hello, I Must Be Going is a close second.
Speaking of suppressed albums, someone--perhaps Phil himself--should have suppressed his single, "Sussudio."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sussudio
Did you know that Prince plays keyboards on Stevie Nicks' single "Stand Back"? I didn't.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sussudio
Did you know that Prince plays keyboards on Stevie Nicks' single "Stand Back"? I didn't.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]bas asselbergs wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Hi GB...I just ran back a handycam tape i filmed at a convention during a Q & A session when the question was asked. (that was allowed by the way...!) if such a recording existed and why it had never been released. Your answer then, was: It was filmed, but during large sections of the recording the audio got damaged or had a lot of sound lost or in a very bad quality with subnoises that can't be taken out without the rest getting worse aswell...and that it would be impossible to ever re-record it as Freddie isn't with us anymore, and that although the images are superb, the sound is much too bad for an official release to Queenstandards...and that THAT is the reason why it will not see the light of day as a Queen DVD.... does this still stand?[/QUOTE]
It sounds like we're talking about audio noise here on the supposed film, everyone knows the mixing-desk audio exists in great quality (Live Magic & Under Pressure '99) so it could be easily mixed with the film (if it does exist).
It sounds like we're talking about audio noise here on the supposed film, everyone knows the mixing-desk audio exists in great quality (Live Magic & Under Pressure '99) so it could be easily mixed with the film (if it does exist).
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Daniel Nester wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Did you know that Prince plays keyboards on Stevie Nicks' single "Stand Back"? I didn't.[/QUOTE]
I did know that actually. Apparently he rode to the studio on a big purple motorcycle, which sounds pretty cool.
And Jon Pertwee was terrific.
I did know that actually. Apparently he rode to the studio on a big purple motorcycle, which sounds pretty cool.
And Jon Pertwee was terrific.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]dsmeer wrote: [/QUOTENAME]I 'm not sure but the last live performance of the Beatles is also incomplete (and I am talking about audio).[/QUOTE]
Yep, you're right. The common recording cuts out after about 27 minutes, and I don't think another one exists.
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Well, if we're talking about Candlestick Park, yep!
I still believe their rooftop gig (annoyed commuters and all) is one of the greatest musical moments captured on film.
Even funnier when U2 ripped it off. It was exactly the same, minus the great music!
Yep, you're right. The common recording cuts out after about 27 minutes, and I don't think another one exists.
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Well, if we're talking about Candlestick Park, yep!
I still believe their rooftop gig (annoyed commuters and all) is one of the greatest musical moments captured on film.
Even funnier when U2 ripped it off. It was exactly the same, minus the great music!
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Zebonka12 wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Well, if we're talking about Candlestick Park, yep!
I still believe their rooftop gig (annoyed commuters and all) is one of the greatest musical moments captured on film.
Even funnier when U2 ripped it off. It was exactly the same, minus the great music![/QUOTE]
Hahaha... !! And yep, I'm talking about Candlestick Park.
Back to Knebworth... near the bottom of this link is Brian's explanation:
http://www.brianmay.com/brian/brianssb/brianssbaug06a.html
If the footage is out there, then so be it, but for now, I think we should take Brian's word for it.
I still believe their rooftop gig (annoyed commuters and all) is one of the greatest musical moments captured on film.
Even funnier when U2 ripped it off. It was exactly the same, minus the great music![/QUOTE]
Hahaha... !! And yep, I'm talking about Candlestick Park.
Back to Knebworth... near the bottom of this link is Brian's explanation:
http://www.brianmay.com/brian/brianssb/brianssbaug06a.html
If the footage is out there, then so be it, but for now, I think we should take Brian's word for it.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]deliah wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Hindsight is a wonderful thing,they mighntnt had known knebworth would be the last concert ever they mightnt had bothered fliming it since wemebley was already done[/QUOTE]
It being their last gig doesn't come into it. They were a massive band staging a pretty fucking big concert and it was being filmed by a professinal company for use on the big screens... it's very naive to think the live feed wasn't captured. The band and management would want it captured for reference purposes even, for a start and the cost of capturing the feed would have been nothing compared to the camera men involved and the big screens.
It being their last gig doesn't come into it. They were a massive band staging a pretty fucking big concert and it was being filmed by a professinal company for use on the big screens... it's very naive to think the live feed wasn't captured. The band and management would want it captured for reference purposes even, for a start and the cost of capturing the feed would have been nothing compared to the camera men involved and the big screens.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Negative Creep wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]deliah wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Hindsight is a wonderful thing,they mighntnt had known knebworth would be the last concert ever they mightnt had bothered fliming it since wemebley was already done[/QUOTE]
It being their last gig doesn't come into it. They were a massive band staging a pretty fucking big concert and it was being filmed by a professinal company for use on the big screens... it's very naive to think the live feed wasn't captured. The band and management would want it captured for reference purposes even, for a start and the cost of capturing the feed would have been nothing compared to the camera men involved and the big screens.[/QUOTE]
Don't forget that the official LAST concert of the 86 tour was Wembley, which WAS filmed. Knebworth was only a normal concert, so WHY should they record it ? They didn't know it's the last concert of the tour, and they didn't know it's the last tour (Freddie didn't know about his disease until 1987).
It being their last gig doesn't come into it. They were a massive band staging a pretty fucking big concert and it was being filmed by a professinal company for use on the big screens... it's very naive to think the live feed wasn't captured. The band and management would want it captured for reference purposes even, for a start and the cost of capturing the feed would have been nothing compared to the camera men involved and the big screens.[/QUOTE]
Don't forget that the official LAST concert of the 86 tour was Wembley, which WAS filmed. Knebworth was only a normal concert, so WHY should they record it ? They didn't know it's the last concert of the tour, and they didn't know it's the last tour (Freddie didn't know about his disease until 1987).