It's just funny to think that you put on ANY show with 120 THOUSAND people, have a proffesional film crew, film a handful of minutes, and NOT record more than what they supposedly did. Odd at best. I'll trust them in the meantime that they have nothing just to be polite of course!
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Listen, some of you antagonistic annoying twats on this site... and I mean the FEW of you that simply refuse to listen or budge an inch or even consider the possibility that you might be misinformed... I came on here and created this humour-based but serious thread for YOU guys, not myself. There was/is NOTHING in it for me, just time and effort... and the predictable agro that always comes... and of course it has. Zzzzzzzzzz!
I KNOW what exists because it is my job to. I came here in good faith and hinted strongly, but not strongly enough for some of you, that you should be quietly confident of something very nice and very surprising happening one day on this front. But some of you are so fixated on taking the piss, or swearing that I'm lying, that you miss the subtleties and the underlying serious points I was laying out FOR YOU... if you were only smart enough to stop, shut up, read it properly and think about the implications... like Pittrek and Wybren were.
Nothing I have said at conventions seriously conflicts with the data offerred here the other day, and even if it did just a little, keep in mind that i am human and my memory is not a computer. PLUS... I might have viewed more tapes since that time which now put me in a better position to know more than i did back then. It's VERY feasible isn't it... if you use your brain and think about it.
I began this thread in a jokey way, tongue in cheek, and with no malice or nastiness, but clearly I was telling those who take time to listen, who READ BETWEEN THE LINES, to expect the unexpected. So why not do that instead of being such arseholes (the few that are, and always are). Newcastle 86 is an utter braindead numbskull. Who does he belong to? Is any poor sod gonna own up to that?
If that is how some of you Queen 'fans' are going to react when I offer you, albeit necessarily subtly, some real and accurate data to ponder, you can go whistle. I'll just keep things to myself.
The entire concert does not exist on film. Not even half or a quarter of it. The audio DOES exist, all of it. Expect something FANTASTIC one day because I know what DOES exist, from that day, and..... you get the gist by now SURELY... even the thicko's who have written such rubbish in this thread as if they cannot read what is there for them to pick up on.
Most people seem to have got the point, so can you explain it to the plebs among you that really test the pacience of a saint.
Believe what you like. You usually do... but you'll miss the important stuff.
Newcastle 86... you are still a TOP DRAW FIRST DIVISION DICK HEAD, and that's never going to change. I see that you STILL never say anything of use or that us adults can admire. So put up, or shut up.
Dick head Necastle, with an IQ of 8.6 this makes no sense... "fat boy has answered so go wretches and be cleaned" So no change there then!!! You muppet.
Sir GH is correct to point you at BM's explanation. And of course BM has very good recall on certain things. But you cannot expect him to know the details of EVERY camera rolling that day from the camera crews, so... think about what JUST MIGHT also exist, from a logical view point. Would all the cameras only be rolling for 5 minutes?? Might they instead have been rolling for much longer??? Could it be that an entire camera crew did NOT stand around all weekend filming nothing and not wasting time and money????
Would the filming have begun ONLY during the concert???? or might they have been rolling backstage, or at other related 'places' that day?????? Mmmmmm?????
Negative Creep. Yes you're right, but errors DO happen. Read what Brian says. He is not lying to you. The fact that no machine/s were RECORDING has nothing to do with cost.
Adolfo... You wasted a huge amount of space pasting in what i had written at the start of the thread, and even then you missed the point and got it all wrong.
You are one of the thicko's I'm talking about who
I KNOW what exists because it is my job to. I came here in good faith and hinted strongly, but not strongly enough for some of you, that you should be quietly confident of something very nice and very surprising happening one day on this front. But some of you are so fixated on taking the piss, or swearing that I'm lying, that you miss the subtleties and the underlying serious points I was laying out FOR YOU... if you were only smart enough to stop, shut up, read it properly and think about the implications... like Pittrek and Wybren were.
Nothing I have said at conventions seriously conflicts with the data offerred here the other day, and even if it did just a little, keep in mind that i am human and my memory is not a computer. PLUS... I might have viewed more tapes since that time which now put me in a better position to know more than i did back then. It's VERY feasible isn't it... if you use your brain and think about it.
I began this thread in a jokey way, tongue in cheek, and with no malice or nastiness, but clearly I was telling those who take time to listen, who READ BETWEEN THE LINES, to expect the unexpected. So why not do that instead of being such arseholes (the few that are, and always are). Newcastle 86 is an utter braindead numbskull. Who does he belong to? Is any poor sod gonna own up to that?
If that is how some of you Queen 'fans' are going to react when I offer you, albeit necessarily subtly, some real and accurate data to ponder, you can go whistle. I'll just keep things to myself.
The entire concert does not exist on film. Not even half or a quarter of it. The audio DOES exist, all of it. Expect something FANTASTIC one day because I know what DOES exist, from that day, and..... you get the gist by now SURELY... even the thicko's who have written such rubbish in this thread as if they cannot read what is there for them to pick up on.
Most people seem to have got the point, so can you explain it to the plebs among you that really test the pacience of a saint.
Believe what you like. You usually do... but you'll miss the important stuff.
Newcastle 86... you are still a TOP DRAW FIRST DIVISION DICK HEAD, and that's never going to change. I see that you STILL never say anything of use or that us adults can admire. So put up, or shut up.
Dick head Necastle, with an IQ of 8.6 this makes no sense... "fat boy has answered so go wretches and be cleaned" So no change there then!!! You muppet.
Sir GH is correct to point you at BM's explanation. And of course BM has very good recall on certain things. But you cannot expect him to know the details of EVERY camera rolling that day from the camera crews, so... think about what JUST MIGHT also exist, from a logical view point. Would all the cameras only be rolling for 5 minutes?? Might they instead have been rolling for much longer??? Could it be that an entire camera crew did NOT stand around all weekend filming nothing and not wasting time and money????
Would the filming have begun ONLY during the concert???? or might they have been rolling backstage, or at other related 'places' that day?????? Mmmmmm?????
Negative Creep. Yes you're right, but errors DO happen. Read what Brian says. He is not lying to you. The fact that no machine/s were RECORDING has nothing to do with cost.
Adolfo... You wasted a huge amount of space pasting in what i had written at the start of the thread, and even then you missed the point and got it all wrong.
You are one of the thicko's I'm talking about who
Greg,
I feel that Phil has sold his soul to the devil (aka Disney). I wrote this in another thread, which I can't find at the moment, but I was bombarded day-in and day-out while working at an amusement park for two summers straight with 'Can't Stop Loving You' and 'You're In My Heart', every hour on the hour, for nearly fourteen hours a day. If that's not an excuse for mass murder, I don't know what is.
That said, do you think I should pick up Abacab? I've been thinking about it, and my finger hovered over my mouse button while the arrow danced around the "Buy It!" button on iTunes. Should I make the plunge?
Thanks!
I feel that Phil has sold his soul to the devil (aka Disney). I wrote this in another thread, which I can't find at the moment, but I was bombarded day-in and day-out while working at an amusement park for two summers straight with 'Can't Stop Loving You' and 'You're In My Heart', every hour on the hour, for nearly fourteen hours a day. If that's not an excuse for mass murder, I don't know what is.
That said, do you think I should pick up Abacab? I've been thinking about it, and my finger hovered over my mouse button while the arrow danced around the "Buy It!" button on iTunes. Should I make the plunge?
Thanks!
Actually, and of course way off topic, I have a question for Lester. I just bought Imperial Bedroom today, and have not gotten to listen to it yet. All the reviews I have read say it takes a good 6-10 listens to reveal its glories. Just wondering your thoughts on the album. Thanks.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Shane Jazz wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Actually, and of course way off topic, I have a question for Lester. I just bought Imperial Bedroom today, and have not gotten to listen to it yet. All the reviews I have read say it takes a good 6-10 listens to reveal its glories. Just wondering your thoughts on the album. Thanks.[/QUOTE]
EXCELLENT choice, Shane Jazz. Imperial Bedroom is one of my favorite Elvis Costello albums, but the reviews are right – it takes a bit of listening to get into it. At first, the only songs I really liked were 'Beyond Belief', 'Shabby Doll' (listen for a great Bruce Thomas bass solo at the end), 'Man Out Of Time', 'And In Every Home', and 'Pidgin English'. Then, slowly but surely, I started to really listen to the other songs, based mostly on their eccentricities – the accordion of 'The Long Honeymoon', the harpsichord of 'You Little Fool', the strings of 'Town Cryer', etc. Even songs that you'd think are typical EC – 'Little Savage', 'The Loved Ones', 'Human Hands' – have little nuances that take a bit to catch, but the reward is that much greater when you discover them.
Once Imperial Bedroom becomes one of your favorite albums by EC (for me, it ranks up there with All This Useless Beauty, This Year's Model, Get Happy!!, and Blood And Chocolate – I deliberately left out King Of America, because that album transcends everything else EC has put out), listen to the bonus disc, especially for EC and the Attractions' take on Smokey Robinson's 'From Head To Toe', and for an alcohol-fueled interpretation (in the style of Barry White, no less) of 'Town Cryer'.
Don't start me talking about Elvis Costello... I could talk all night.
(nyuk nyuk)
EXCELLENT choice, Shane Jazz. Imperial Bedroom is one of my favorite Elvis Costello albums, but the reviews are right – it takes a bit of listening to get into it. At first, the only songs I really liked were 'Beyond Belief', 'Shabby Doll' (listen for a great Bruce Thomas bass solo at the end), 'Man Out Of Time', 'And In Every Home', and 'Pidgin English'. Then, slowly but surely, I started to really listen to the other songs, based mostly on their eccentricities – the accordion of 'The Long Honeymoon', the harpsichord of 'You Little Fool', the strings of 'Town Cryer', etc. Even songs that you'd think are typical EC – 'Little Savage', 'The Loved Ones', 'Human Hands' – have little nuances that take a bit to catch, but the reward is that much greater when you discover them.
Once Imperial Bedroom becomes one of your favorite albums by EC (for me, it ranks up there with All This Useless Beauty, This Year's Model, Get Happy!!, and Blood And Chocolate – I deliberately left out King Of America, because that album transcends everything else EC has put out), listen to the bonus disc, especially for EC and the Attractions' take on Smokey Robinson's 'From Head To Toe', and for an alcohol-fueled interpretation (in the style of Barry White, no less) of 'Town Cryer'.
Don't start me talking about Elvis Costello... I could talk all night.
(nyuk nyuk)
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]John S Stuart wrote:
For example, I know that various 'Doctor Who' stories have been reconstructed, and that versions of 'The Invasion' the 'Ice Warriors' and the original 'Autons' have all been remade using all sorts of varying techniques... If so, I also like the idea that an official 'Budapest' DVD release could have an additional bonus Kebworth (or best of) disc."
[/QUOTE]
Off topic I know John but; The only one of the three Dr Who stories you mention that has has reconstruction is The Invasion, and the two missing episodes have been animated using the original audio.
The only other official recons are Power of the Daleks (all 6 eps), Tenth Planet (ep4) and a 30min cutdowm summary of Marco Polo. These were all reconstructed using off air still photo's (telsnaps) and bits of footage of existing eps.
I couldn't see QPL going down the animation route for Knebworth as it would be very very expensive and IMHO there would be no point to it.
Isn't there supposed to be a Torrent out there taken from the feed to the big screen?
For example, I know that various 'Doctor Who' stories have been reconstructed, and that versions of 'The Invasion' the 'Ice Warriors' and the original 'Autons' have all been remade using all sorts of varying techniques... If so, I also like the idea that an official 'Budapest' DVD release could have an additional bonus Kebworth (or best of) disc."
[/QUOTE]
Off topic I know John but; The only one of the three Dr Who stories you mention that has has reconstruction is The Invasion, and the two missing episodes have been animated using the original audio.
The only other official recons are Power of the Daleks (all 6 eps), Tenth Planet (ep4) and a 30min cutdowm summary of Marco Polo. These were all reconstructed using off air still photo's (telsnaps) and bits of footage of existing eps.
I couldn't see QPL going down the animation route for Knebworth as it would be very very expensive and IMHO there would be no point to it.
Isn't there supposed to be a Torrent out there taken from the feed to the big screen?
Well, im kind of excited about this surprise Greg is talking about. I only hope he doesnt refer to old stuff that Brian calls new exciting stuff ( or something like that, ref the new xtras on the Montreal DVD release).
Oh well, just give music to the masses before im getting too old.
Oh well, just give music to the masses before im getting too old.
Queen's final gig memorial disc:
-Double cd/DVD-Audio 5.1 DTS
-DVD with snippets from the show, backstage footage, fan interviews, tv-reports and a retrospective with new interviews with Brian, Roger, Gerry Stickles etc and the kid that was born during the concert.
Queen's final gig memorial box set:
-Double cd/DVD-Audio 5.1 DTS
-DVD with snippets from the show, backstage footage, fan interviews, tv-reports and a retrospective with new interviews with Brian, Roger, Gerry Stickles etc and the kid that was born during the concert.
-Commemorative t-shirt (white, one size)
-Ticket stub
-Photo set/Postcards
-Full colour booklet
Queen's fnal gig deluxe memorial box set:
-Double cd/DVD-Audio 5.1 DTS
-DVD with snippets from the show, backstage footage, fan interviews, tv-reports and a retrospective with new interviews with Brian, Roger, Gerry Stickles etc and the kid that was born during the concert.
-Commemorative t-shirt (white, one size)
-Ticket stub
-Photo set/Postcards
-Full colour booklet
-autographed colour print
-laminate backstage pass
Am I in the right direction, Greg?
-Double cd/DVD-Audio 5.1 DTS
-DVD with snippets from the show, backstage footage, fan interviews, tv-reports and a retrospective with new interviews with Brian, Roger, Gerry Stickles etc and the kid that was born during the concert.
Queen's final gig memorial box set:
-Double cd/DVD-Audio 5.1 DTS
-DVD with snippets from the show, backstage footage, fan interviews, tv-reports and a retrospective with new interviews with Brian, Roger, Gerry Stickles etc and the kid that was born during the concert.
-Commemorative t-shirt (white, one size)
-Ticket stub
-Photo set/Postcards
-Full colour booklet
Queen's fnal gig deluxe memorial box set:
-Double cd/DVD-Audio 5.1 DTS
-DVD with snippets from the show, backstage footage, fan interviews, tv-reports and a retrospective with new interviews with Brian, Roger, Gerry Stickles etc and the kid that was born during the concert.
-Commemorative t-shirt (white, one size)
-Ticket stub
-Photo set/Postcards
-Full colour booklet
-autographed colour print
-laminate backstage pass
Am I in the right direction, Greg?
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]cliffhowell wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]John S Stuart wrote:
For example, I know that various 'Doctor Who' stories have been reconstructed, and that versions of 'The Invasion' the 'Ice Warriors' and the original 'Autons' have all been remade using all sorts of varying techniques... If so, I also like the idea that an official 'Budapest' DVD release could have an additional bonus Kebworth (or best of) disc."
[/QUOTE]
Off topic I know John but; The only one of the three Dr Who stories you mention that has has reconstruction is The Invasion, and the two missing episodes have been animated using the original audio.
The only other official recons are Power of the Daleks (all 6 eps), Tenth Planet (ep4) and a 30min cutdowm summary of Marco Polo. These were all reconstructed using off air still photo's (telsnaps) and bits of footage of existing eps.
I couldn't see QPL going down the animation route for Knebworth as it would be very very expensive and IMHO there would be no point to it.
Isn't there supposed to be a Torrent out there taken from the feed to the big screen?[/QUOTE]
Cliffhowell - You seem to miss a few points...
First: Like Greg, I always believed there was a vast expanse between 'nothing' and 'full concert'.
Second: Like, [ Wybren™ ], I too agree that a DVD audio release of Knebworth with all the existing visuals as a bonus would be an excellent idea.
Third: My reconstruction idea was based on full audio 'PLUS'. (See second point for basic information - but to this audio also add additional visual extras such as photographs, slide-shows or Do-Ro edits etc). I know that we are not fans of Do-Ro, but, if they could construct something out of nothing, I guess that would be a different kettle of fish.
Finally: Re Doctor Who, it is interesting you refer only to the official BBC releases. However, long before the BBC were involved in such cheap imitations, groups of enthusiastic fans like 'Loose Cannon', and 'Joint Venture' married the existing BBC audio to both the surviving footage, CGC graphics, telesnaps, studio photographs and publicity stills.
These are the reconstructions I alluded to, (which imo are far closer to the original broadcasts than the current BBC recreations) and if you have not seen these versions (For example 'Moonbase' which incorporates all these features alongside the two surviving episodes) then you (with all due respect) have not seen a Doctor Who reconstruction.
PS: Doctor Who - 'Terror Of The Autons' was officially released in 1993 as a BBC VHS RECONSTRUCTED Colourised Version (1971) - as not all the existing colour episodes survived.
Animated Freddie indeed!
For example, I know that various 'Doctor Who' stories have been reconstructed, and that versions of 'The Invasion' the 'Ice Warriors' and the original 'Autons' have all been remade using all sorts of varying techniques... If so, I also like the idea that an official 'Budapest' DVD release could have an additional bonus Kebworth (or best of) disc."
[/QUOTE]
Off topic I know John but; The only one of the three Dr Who stories you mention that has has reconstruction is The Invasion, and the two missing episodes have been animated using the original audio.
The only other official recons are Power of the Daleks (all 6 eps), Tenth Planet (ep4) and a 30min cutdowm summary of Marco Polo. These were all reconstructed using off air still photo's (telsnaps) and bits of footage of existing eps.
I couldn't see QPL going down the animation route for Knebworth as it would be very very expensive and IMHO there would be no point to it.
Isn't there supposed to be a Torrent out there taken from the feed to the big screen?[/QUOTE]
Cliffhowell - You seem to miss a few points...
First: Like Greg, I always believed there was a vast expanse between 'nothing' and 'full concert'.
Second: Like, [ Wybren™ ], I too agree that a DVD audio release of Knebworth with all the existing visuals as a bonus would be an excellent idea.
Third: My reconstruction idea was based on full audio 'PLUS'. (See second point for basic information - but to this audio also add additional visual extras such as photographs, slide-shows or Do-Ro edits etc). I know that we are not fans of Do-Ro, but, if they could construct something out of nothing, I guess that would be a different kettle of fish.
Finally: Re Doctor Who, it is interesting you refer only to the official BBC releases. However, long before the BBC were involved in such cheap imitations, groups of enthusiastic fans like 'Loose Cannon', and 'Joint Venture' married the existing BBC audio to both the surviving footage, CGC graphics, telesnaps, studio photographs and publicity stills.
These are the reconstructions I alluded to, (which imo are far closer to the original broadcasts than the current BBC recreations) and if you have not seen these versions (For example 'Moonbase' which incorporates all these features alongside the two surviving episodes) then you (with all due respect) have not seen a Doctor Who reconstruction.
PS: Doctor Who - 'Terror Of The Autons' was officially released in 1993 as a BBC VHS RECONSTRUCTED Colourised Version (1971) - as not all the existing colour episodes survived.
Animated Freddie indeed!
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Queen Archivist wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Listen, some of you antagonistic annoying twats on this site... and I mean the FEW of you that simply refuse to listen or budge an inch or even consider the possibility that you might be misinformed... I came on here and created this humour-based but serious thread for YOU guys, not myself. There was/is NOTHING in it for me, just time and effort... and the predictable agro that always comes... and of course it has. Zzzzzzzzzz!
I KNOW what exists because it is my job to. I came here in good faith and hinted strongly, but not strongly enough for some of you, that you should be quietly confident of something very nice and very surprising happening one day on this front. But some of you are so fixated on taking the piss, or swearing that I'm lying, that you miss the subtleties and the underlying serious points I was laying out FOR YOU... if you were only smart enough to stop, shut up, read it properly and think about the implications... like Pittrek and Wybren were.
Nothing I have said at conventions seriously conflicts with the data offerred here the other day, and even if it did just a little, keep in mind that i am human and my memory is not a computer. PLUS... I might have viewed more tapes since that time which now put me in a better position to know more than i did back then. It's VERY feasible isn't it... if you use your brain and think about it.
I began this thread in a jokey way, tongue in cheek, and with no malice or nastiness, but clearly I was telling those who take time to listen, who READ BETWEEN THE LINES, to expect the unexpected. So why not do that instead of being such arseholes (the few that are, and always are). Newcastle 86 is an utter braindead numbskull. Who does he belong to? Is any poor sod gonna own up to that?
If that is how some of you Queen 'fans' are going to react when I offer you, albeit necessarily subtly, some real and accurate data to ponder, you can go whistle. I'll just keep things to myself.
The entire concert does not exist on film. Not even half or a quarter of it. The audio DOES exist, all of it. Expect something FANTASTIC one day because I know what DOES exist, from that day, and..... you get the gist by now SURELY... even the thicko's who have written such rubbish in this thread as if they cannot read what is there for them to pick up on.
Most people seem to have got the point, so can you explain it to the plebs among you that really test the pacience of a saint.
Believe what you like. You usually do... but you'll miss the important stuff.
Newcastle 86... you are still a TOP DRAW FIRST DIVISION DICK HEAD, and that's never going to change. I see that you STILL never say anything of use or that us adults can admire. So put up, or shut up.
Dick head Necastle, with an IQ of 8.6 this makes no sense... "fat boy has answered so go wretches and be cleaned" So no change there then!!! You muppet.
Sir GH is correct to point you at BM's explanation. And of course BM has very good recall on certain things. But you cannot expect him to know the details of EVERY camera rolling that day from the camera crews, so... think about what JUST MIGHT also exist, from a logical view point. Would all the cameras only be rolling for 5 minutes?? Might they instead have been rolling for much longer??? Could it be that an entire camera crew did NOT stand around all weekend filming nothing and not wasting time and money????
Would the filming have begun ONLY during the concert???? or might they have been rolling backstage, or at other related 'places' that day?????? Mmmmmm?????
Negative Creep. Yes you're right, but errors DO happen. Read what Brian says. He is not lying to you. The fact that no machine/s were RECORDING has nothing to do with cost.
Adolfo... You wasted a huge amount of space pasting in what i had written at the start of the thread, and even then you missed the point and got it all wrong.
I KNOW what exists because it is my job to. I came here in good faith and hinted strongly, but not strongly enough for some of you, that you should be quietly confident of something very nice and very surprising happening one day on this front. But some of you are so fixated on taking the piss, or swearing that I'm lying, that you miss the subtleties and the underlying serious points I was laying out FOR YOU... if you were only smart enough to stop, shut up, read it properly and think about the implications... like Pittrek and Wybren were.
Nothing I have said at conventions seriously conflicts with the data offerred here the other day, and even if it did just a little, keep in mind that i am human and my memory is not a computer. PLUS... I might have viewed more tapes since that time which now put me in a better position to know more than i did back then. It's VERY feasible isn't it... if you use your brain and think about it.
I began this thread in a jokey way, tongue in cheek, and with no malice or nastiness, but clearly I was telling those who take time to listen, who READ BETWEEN THE LINES, to expect the unexpected. So why not do that instead of being such arseholes (the few that are, and always are). Newcastle 86 is an utter braindead numbskull. Who does he belong to? Is any poor sod gonna own up to that?
If that is how some of you Queen 'fans' are going to react when I offer you, albeit necessarily subtly, some real and accurate data to ponder, you can go whistle. I'll just keep things to myself.
The entire concert does not exist on film. Not even half or a quarter of it. The audio DOES exist, all of it. Expect something FANTASTIC one day because I know what DOES exist, from that day, and..... you get the gist by now SURELY... even the thicko's who have written such rubbish in this thread as if they cannot read what is there for them to pick up on.
Most people seem to have got the point, so can you explain it to the plebs among you that really test the pacience of a saint.
Believe what you like. You usually do... but you'll miss the important stuff.
Newcastle 86... you are still a TOP DRAW FIRST DIVISION DICK HEAD, and that's never going to change. I see that you STILL never say anything of use or that us adults can admire. So put up, or shut up.
Dick head Necastle, with an IQ of 8.6 this makes no sense... "fat boy has answered so go wretches and be cleaned" So no change there then!!! You muppet.
Sir GH is correct to point you at BM's explanation. And of course BM has very good recall on certain things. But you cannot expect him to know the details of EVERY camera rolling that day from the camera crews, so... think about what JUST MIGHT also exist, from a logical view point. Would all the cameras only be rolling for 5 minutes?? Might they instead have been rolling for much longer??? Could it be that an entire camera crew did NOT stand around all weekend filming nothing and not wasting time and money????
Would the filming have begun ONLY during the concert???? or might they have been rolling backstage, or at other related 'places' that day?????? Mmmmmm?????
Negative Creep. Yes you're right, but errors DO happen. Read what Brian says. He is not lying to you. The fact that no machine/s were RECORDING has nothing to do with cost.
Adolfo... You wasted a huge amount of space pasting in what i had written at the start of the thread, and even then you missed the point and got it all wrong.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Queen Archivist wrote: [/QUOTENAME]My personal opinion is that I'd rather work on a gig no one has seen outside of the archive people and the band. Now that IS extremely exciting to me. Live Killers DVD, Early Queen live... South America 1981... THAT is what excites me most - more so than a concert i have here already on vhs.
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YES!!! Sounds fantastic, I hope someday we'll see a 70's concert on DVD. I hope QP thinks the same way, or are they afraid to shock the casual buyer with an Freddie in leotards & leather ;-)
[/QUOTE]
YES!!! Sounds fantastic, I hope someday we'll see a 70's concert on DVD. I hope QP thinks the same way, or are they afraid to shock the casual buyer with an Freddie in leotards & leather ;-)
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Queen Archivist wrote: [/QUOTENAME]My personal opinion is that I'd rather work on a gig no one has seen outside of the archive people and the band. Now that IS extremely exciting to me. Live Killers DVD, Early Queen live... South America 1981... THAT is what excites me most - more so than a concert i have here already on vhs.[/QUOTE]
Now that's what we want to hear!
Now that's what we want to hear!
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Queen Archivist wrote: [/QUOTENAME]
...
I began this thread in a jokey way, tongue in cheek, and with no malice or nastiness, but clearly I was telling those who take time to listen, who READ BETWEEN THE LINES, to expect the unexpected. So why not do that instead of being such arseholes (the few that are, and always are). Newcastle 86 is an utter braindead numbskull. Who does he belong to? Is any poor sod gonna own up to that?
If that is how some of you Queen 'fans' are going to react when I offer you, albeit necessarily subtly, some real and accurate data to ponder, you can go whistle. I'll just keep things to myself.
...
Believe what you like. You usually do... but you'll miss the important stuff.
Newcastle 86... you are still a TOP DRAW FIRST DIVISION DICK HEAD, and that's never going to change. I see that you STILL never say anything of use or that us adults can admire. So put up, or shut up.
Dick head Necastle, with an IQ of 8.6 this makes no sense... "fat boy has answered so go wretches and be cleaned" So no change there then!!! You muppet.
...
[/QUOTE]
After reading this utterly childish reply I am not capable of believing anything you say anymore :P
Anyhow, don't let you be distracted by some of the unknowing fools on this website. But do listen to the demands of the fans and yourself, by digging up the best early shows, Live Killers shows and South America 81 videos.
I'm sure that it would be much more appreciated to see a release of any of those 3 than another Magic Tour release. Either Budapest or even Knebworth!
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I began this thread in a jokey way, tongue in cheek, and with no malice or nastiness, but clearly I was telling those who take time to listen, who READ BETWEEN THE LINES, to expect the unexpected. So why not do that instead of being such arseholes (the few that are, and always are). Newcastle 86 is an utter braindead numbskull. Who does he belong to? Is any poor sod gonna own up to that?
If that is how some of you Queen 'fans' are going to react when I offer you, albeit necessarily subtly, some real and accurate data to ponder, you can go whistle. I'll just keep things to myself.
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Believe what you like. You usually do... but you'll miss the important stuff.
Newcastle 86... you are still a TOP DRAW FIRST DIVISION DICK HEAD, and that's never going to change. I see that you STILL never say anything of use or that us adults can admire. So put up, or shut up.
Dick head Necastle, with an IQ of 8.6 this makes no sense... "fat boy has answered so go wretches and be cleaned" So no change there then!!! You muppet.
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After reading this utterly childish reply I am not capable of believing anything you say anymore :P
Anyhow, don't let you be distracted by some of the unknowing fools on this website. But do listen to the demands of the fans and yourself, by digging up the best early shows, Live Killers shows and South America 81 videos.
I'm sure that it would be much more appreciated to see a release of any of those 3 than another Magic Tour release. Either Budapest or even Knebworth!
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]John S Stuart wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Finally: Re Doctor Who, it is interesting you refer only to the official BBC releases. However, long before the BBC were involved in such cheap imitations, groups of enthusiastic fans like 'Loose Cannon', and 'Joint Venture' married the existing BBC audio to both the surviving footage, CGC graphics, telesnaps, studio photographs and publicity stills.
These are the reconstructions I alluded to, (which imo are far closer to the original broadcasts than the current BBC recreations) and if you have not seen these versions (For example 'Moonbase' which incorporates all these features alongside the two surviving episodes) then you (with all due respect) have not seen a Doctor Who reconstruction.
PS: Doctor Who - 'Terror Of The Autons' was officially released in 1993 as a BBC VHS RECONSTRUCTED Colourised Version (1971) - as not all the existing colour episodes survived.
Animated Freddie indeed!
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I knew I liked you before JSS, but this just seals the deal :)
I guess the Daemons VHS would count along those lines too.
But anyway -- I'm assuming that all the "amateur" video of this concert is of such low quality / existence that no-one's considering using it? I mean we've had DVD extras of questionable quality (excerpts from obscure concerts, Golden Rose festivals) before.
And along those lines...one wonders what the Doctor Who Restoration Team could do with some of the 70s Queen concerts available...
These are the reconstructions I alluded to, (which imo are far closer to the original broadcasts than the current BBC recreations) and if you have not seen these versions (For example 'Moonbase' which incorporates all these features alongside the two surviving episodes) then you (with all due respect) have not seen a Doctor Who reconstruction.
PS: Doctor Who - 'Terror Of The Autons' was officially released in 1993 as a BBC VHS RECONSTRUCTED Colourised Version (1971) - as not all the existing colour episodes survived.
Animated Freddie indeed!
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I knew I liked you before JSS, but this just seals the deal :)
I guess the Daemons VHS would count along those lines too.
But anyway -- I'm assuming that all the "amateur" video of this concert is of such low quality / existence that no-one's considering using it? I mean we've had DVD extras of questionable quality (excerpts from obscure concerts, Golden Rose festivals) before.
And along those lines...one wonders what the Doctor Who Restoration Team could do with some of the 70s Queen concerts available...
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Queen Archivist wrote: [/QUOTENAME]My personal opinion is that I'd rather work on a gig no one has seen outside of the archive people and the band. Now that IS extremely exciting to me. Live Killers DVD, Early Queen live... South America 1981... THAT is what excites me most - more so than a concert i have here already on vhs.[/QUOTE]
Now that's what we want to hear!
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Yeah, it's what we want to hear, and might be said exactly because of that... It just might make the stick seem more bearable if you dangle a carrot in front of the donkey.
For all we know it's something that Greg would LIKE to do, but QP isn't willing to pay a single penny for. (I would like to be a billionaire, but just wishing something doesn't make it any closer to reality.) It certainly seems so based on the experiences of past few years, and that's why I wouldn't get my hopes up just yet.
Now that's what we want to hear!
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Yeah, it's what we want to hear, and might be said exactly because of that... It just might make the stick seem more bearable if you dangle a carrot in front of the donkey.
For all we know it's something that Greg would LIKE to do, but QP isn't willing to pay a single penny for. (I would like to be a billionaire, but just wishing something doesn't make it any closer to reality.) It certainly seems so based on the experiences of past few years, and that's why I wouldn't get my hopes up just yet.