^ ^Oh dear! But I'm sure Brian didn't take the antics of the 'shock jock' too seriously, after all, his whole shtick is to get a rise out of his guests isn't it?!
Stern was merely speaking as the casual listener would-they recognise frontmen (Freddie, Jim Morrison, Mick Jagger etc) before anyone else in a band-that makes them more recognisable, but not necessarily overrated. It may be annoying when people only know one member of a band that you love in its entirety but they play a part in getting the group noticed-and from a business point of view, that's very important.
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...and wasn't it Freddie who said that "I'm not the leader of the band. I'm just the lead singer."
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Given the qualifications listed in the OP, I have difficulty thinking that Freddie Mercury is overrated.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Another Roger (re) wrote: [/QUOTENAME]1. Freddie Mercury had the most fantastic voice ever.
2. He was the greatest showman ever
3. He was a great composer in the 70s.
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[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Another Roger (re) wrote: [/QUOTENAME]1. Freddie Mercury had the most fantastic voice ever.
2. He was the greatest showman ever
3. He was a great composer in the 70s.
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I've got a great conversational piece as well...
Queen Fan: "Have you heard the new Q+PR show? I don't really like it..."
Q+PR Fan: "What do you mean you don't like it? It's still Queen, and Queen is great!"
Q: "I've always thought of Queen as four members, and there's only half of them left now."
Q+PR: "So you only liked the band for Freddie. What about Brian? He's still there!"
Q: "Yeah, he was a part of the band, but not the only part. I liked some of Freddie's work, and some of Brian's too."
Q+PR: "But Brian wrote the better songs, while Freddie did the crap disco ones in the 80's!"
Q: "I think they were both better songwriters in the 70's, and had a small dip in the 80's... It's only natural after a certain period of writing, and they were still better than most of their contemporaries."
Q+PR: "You're just making excuses because you think Freddie was Queen!"
Q: "No, like I said, he was a part of that group. A lead singer. Something for the audience and media to take interest in.
Q+PR: "Just admit you're a Freddie fan and never cared for the group! You don't love Brian the way I do!"
Queen Fan: "Have you heard the new Q+PR show? I don't really like it..."
Q+PR Fan: "What do you mean you don't like it? It's still Queen, and Queen is great!"
Q: "I've always thought of Queen as four members, and there's only half of them left now."
Q+PR: "So you only liked the band for Freddie. What about Brian? He's still there!"
Q: "Yeah, he was a part of the band, but not the only part. I liked some of Freddie's work, and some of Brian's too."
Q+PR: "But Brian wrote the better songs, while Freddie did the crap disco ones in the 80's!"
Q: "I think they were both better songwriters in the 70's, and had a small dip in the 80's... It's only natural after a certain period of writing, and they were still better than most of their contemporaries."
Q+PR: "You're just making excuses because you think Freddie was Queen!"
Q: "No, like I said, he was a part of that group. A lead singer. Something for the audience and media to take interest in.
Q+PR: "Just admit you're a Freddie fan and never cared for the group! You don't love Brian the way I do!"
I don't understand how "Hammer to Fall" "Who Wants to Live Forever" and "I Want it All" proves that Brian's songwriting ability declined in the '80s. I know that this has little bearing on the issue being discussed but I just couldn't let that one get by the critics.
those are three great songs, hammer to fall, who wants to live forever and I want all, but others weren't very good. I could say the same for freddie. Play the game, it's a hard life, princess of the universe, barcelona (whole album) was it all worth it?.... and the miracle were all great songs IMO. Also the 90's, Innuendo, slightly mad, don't try so hard, bijou, a winters tale. Brian Came back with the show must go on. Why is this becoming a freddie vs brian debate, it's kind of silly if you ask me. How old are we?...how old is the topic starter?...I think he's a young kid who's a bit jealous. Why start a thread like this if he wasn't Jealous?...Every queen fan knows that they were a four man band who was led by freddie and brian. that's a fact, roger and John arn't equal to the other two. We could argue between freddie and brian till the cows come home, and we'll get nowhere.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Tero wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]pittrek wrote: [/QUOTENAME]
Brian on the other hand did NEVER write a song, which I wouldn't like.[/QUOTE]
I'm sorry to say this, but that revelation makes it very hard to take your opinion seriously. (Unless of course your definition of liking something is "not hating something".)
I admit that Freddie was my favourite member of the group, and in general I like his songs more than the others... That does not however mean I like every single thing he wrote. Maybe I'm not just as obsessed as people like you, but I think overall that's a good thing. We wouldn't want everyone to fawn over every single piece of crap they produced, would we? ;)[/QUOTE] I agree, Freddie is also my favorite queen member, but I still don't like every single song he wrote, Is that what we call a steford?..."The call" was better than Bo rhap I suppose, and "I'm scared" and "tear it up" are the greatest pieces of music ever written.
Brian on the other hand did NEVER write a song, which I wouldn't like.[/QUOTE]
I'm sorry to say this, but that revelation makes it very hard to take your opinion seriously. (Unless of course your definition of liking something is "not hating something".)
I admit that Freddie was my favourite member of the group, and in general I like his songs more than the others... That does not however mean I like every single thing he wrote. Maybe I'm not just as obsessed as people like you, but I think overall that's a good thing. We wouldn't want everyone to fawn over every single piece of crap they produced, would we? ;)[/QUOTE] I agree, Freddie is also my favorite queen member, but I still don't like every single song he wrote, Is that what we call a steford?..."The call" was better than Bo rhap I suppose, and "I'm scared" and "tear it up" are the greatest pieces of music ever written.
Way to go; starting a thread where your assertion is that he was an overrated member of Queen, and then listing amongst his credentials, your belief that he's the most amazing singer of all time.
There are 6 billion people on the planet. Somewhere out there, in the past, present, and future, are people who can probably sing better than Freddie.
They never get anywhere because they have warts, or they're criminally insane, or because they like doing Michael Bolton covers, but they're out there.
There are 6 billion people on the planet. Somewhere out there, in the past, present, and future, are people who can probably sing better than Freddie.
They never get anywhere because they have warts, or they're criminally insane, or because they like doing Michael Bolton covers, but they're out there.
I found this topic quite interesting, as i have never read about this matter before. I must agree, when people think of Queen they think of Freddie. This is not compleely bad, as Freddie WAS the lead singer, but Brian, Roger and John were also there too. I must say too, that most of my favourite songs are by Brian. But when reading your article, i feel you're being a bit harsh. I mean, isnt the lead singer always over rated?
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Zebonka12 wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Way to go; starting a thread where your assertion is that he was an overrated member of Queen, and then listing amongst his credentials, your belief that he's the most amazing singer of all time.
There are 6 billion people on the planet. Somewhere out there, in the past, present, and future, are people who can probably sing better than Freddie.
They never get anywhere because they have warts, or they're criminally insane, or because they like doing Michael Bolton covers, but they're out there.[/QUOTE] Of course feddie wasn't the greatest singer on the planet, it's just another Immature Statement from an Immature kid.
There are 6 billion people on the planet. Somewhere out there, in the past, present, and future, are people who can probably sing better than Freddie.
They never get anywhere because they have warts, or they're criminally insane, or because they like doing Michael Bolton covers, but they're out there.[/QUOTE] Of course feddie wasn't the greatest singer on the planet, it's just another Immature Statement from an Immature kid.
no, in my opinion freddie isn't overrated, - he actually is so fantastic as evervbody says :)
I think this a question that us, the Queen fans, can't answer alone. I mean, amongst fans Freddie probably isn't overrated, 'cos we all know that the others were skilled musicians and great composers, as well. Casual rock listeners, on the other hand, often think that Freddie was Queen, e.g. he wrote all the hits and was "the boss" in the band. And that's understandable, 'cos he was such a great singer and frontman and a BIG personality. Even his death was big media event with the tribute concert. No wonder if people tend to over-emphasize Freddie's importance to the band.
Unfortunately, even some fans seem to think that Freddie was Queen. We should know better.
Unfortunately, even some fans seem to think that Freddie was Queen. We should know better.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]August R. wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Unfortunately, even some fans seem to think that Freddie was Queen. We should know better.
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You know... I don't recall EVER seeing anyone either here or at QOL saying that Freddie was Queen. I've never seen anyone saying that Queen would have been just as good without Brian, and no one has ever suggested that Freddie's solo album was better than anything Queen ever wrote.
On the other hand I HAVE seen people here at QZ saying that Queen is currently just as good as it ever was with Freddie (and John), and how Back To The Light is better than anything Queen has ever written.
When did it become unacceptable to aknowledge that there were TWO equally great members in Queen, and another two integral members? Is that just some kind of defense mechanism to justify the current line-up? :/
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You know... I don't recall EVER seeing anyone either here or at QOL saying that Freddie was Queen. I've never seen anyone saying that Queen would have been just as good without Brian, and no one has ever suggested that Freddie's solo album was better than anything Queen ever wrote.
On the other hand I HAVE seen people here at QZ saying that Queen is currently just as good as it ever was with Freddie (and John), and how Back To The Light is better than anything Queen has ever written.
When did it become unacceptable to aknowledge that there were TWO equally great members in Queen, and another two integral members? Is that just some kind of defense mechanism to justify the current line-up? :/
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Tero wrote: [/QUOTENAME]
You know... I don't recall EVER seeing anyone either here or at QOL saying that Freddie was Queen. [/QUOTE]
http://www.queenzone.com/queenzone/forumnew/forum_topic_view.aspx?Q=1063412
Just scroll down... (Perhaps this is an extreme example, but there you have it) ;)
You know... I don't recall EVER seeing anyone either here or at QOL saying that Freddie was Queen. [/QUOTE]
http://www.queenzone.com/queenzone/forumnew/forum_topic_view.aspx?Q=1063412
Just scroll down... (Perhaps this is an extreme example, but there you have it) ;)
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]August R. wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Tero wrote: [/QUOTENAME]
You know... I don't recall EVER seeing anyone either here or at QOL saying that Freddie was Queen. [/QUOTE]
http://www.queenzone.com/queenzone/forumnew/forum_topic_view.aspx?Q=1063412
Just scroll down... (Perhaps this is an extreme example, but there you have it) ;)[/QUOTE]
You're right, I did miss that one-line reply by Bri-Anns Permed Poodle...
What's his/her/it's story? Is it serious poster or a troll? At least the name sounds like it isn't meant to be taken that seriously. :P
You know... I don't recall EVER seeing anyone either here or at QOL saying that Freddie was Queen. [/QUOTE]
http://www.queenzone.com/queenzone/forumnew/forum_topic_view.aspx?Q=1063412
Just scroll down... (Perhaps this is an extreme example, but there you have it) ;)[/QUOTE]
You're right, I did miss that one-line reply by Bri-Anns Permed Poodle...
What's his/her/it's story? Is it serious poster or a troll? At least the name sounds like it isn't meant to be taken that seriously. :P