I don't think Ronson is a good example because that would change the colour of what they were doing dramatically.
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[/QUOTE]A lot of the sounds that we call Queen were a result of Freddie and Brian's ideas bouncing off each other and snowballing. Put another guitarist in there and you can't bet on the outcome.[/QUOTE]
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[/QUOTE]The Queen that we know would not have evolved the way it did with different people. Could it be any fucking simpler than that? [/QUOTE]
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Of course the Queen we know wouldn't have been the same without either one of them, but that also applies to Roger, John, the producers. the crew... for all we know, [i]Bo Rhap[/i] being released one week before or one week later would've probably had a different reaction...
Back to the 'organ' analogy, I don't think any of them represents an organ per se (otherwise they could do with a transplant), but each aspect of their music is an organ, having some or all of them involved.
I elaborate: the brain's the creative aspect of Queen, so the four of them are there (Fred a bit more, then the doctor, then Rog and then John if we count numerically). The heart's the instrumental performance (it's just an example), where the four of them are included as well (drums, bass, keyboards and guitar, with occasional incursions in other instruments); the blood could be the vocal harmonies, where Fred dominates, then Rog, then Brian; the lungs could be the way their records sound, where all four plus producers and engineers take part, etc.
So, at the end of the day, if we took any of them away, it wouldn't be losing one organ, but losing a vital part of all or most of them... that's why:
No John: No Queen
No Roger: No Queen
No Freddie: No Queen
No Brian: No Queen
Back to the 'organ' analogy, I don't think any of them represents an organ per se (otherwise they could do with a transplant), but each aspect of their music is an organ, having some or all of them involved.
I elaborate: the brain's the creative aspect of Queen, so the four of them are there (Fred a bit more, then the doctor, then Rog and then John if we count numerically). The heart's the instrumental performance (it's just an example), where the four of them are included as well (drums, bass, keyboards and guitar, with occasional incursions in other instruments); the blood could be the vocal harmonies, where Fred dominates, then Rog, then Brian; the lungs could be the way their records sound, where all four plus producers and engineers take part, etc.
So, at the end of the day, if we took any of them away, it wouldn't be losing one organ, but losing a vital part of all or most of them... that's why:
No John: No Queen
No Roger: No Queen
No Freddie: No Queen
No Brian: No Queen
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[b]Sebastian wrote: [/b]
the brain's the creative aspect of Queen, so the four of them are there (Fred a bit more, then the doctor, then Rog and then John if we count numerically). The heart's the instrumental performance (it's just an example), where the four of them are included as well (drums, bass, keyboards and guitar, with occasional incursions in other instruments); the blood could be the vocal harmonies, where Fred dominates, then Rog, then Brian; the lungs could be the way their records sound, where all four plus producers and engineers take part, etc.
So, at the end of the day, if we took any of them away, it wouldn't be losing one organ, but losing a vital part of all or most of them... that's why:
No John: No Queen
No Roger: No Queen
No Freddie: No Queen
No Brian: No Queen
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Ha Ha Sebastian, I'm reading this discussion from back to front to get acquainted with it's theme.... not sure if I will continue though as this is probably one of [i]the [/i]and [i]your [/i]most bizarre entries ever to any topic lol
[b]Sebastian wrote: [/b]
the brain's the creative aspect of Queen, so the four of them are there (Fred a bit more, then the doctor, then Rog and then John if we count numerically). The heart's the instrumental performance (it's just an example), where the four of them are included as well (drums, bass, keyboards and guitar, with occasional incursions in other instruments); the blood could be the vocal harmonies, where Fred dominates, then Rog, then Brian; the lungs could be the way their records sound, where all four plus producers and engineers take part, etc.
So, at the end of the day, if we took any of them away, it wouldn't be losing one organ, but losing a vital part of all or most of them... that's why:
No John: No Queen
No Roger: No Queen
No Freddie: No Queen
No Brian: No Queen
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Ha Ha Sebastian, I'm reading this discussion from back to front to get acquainted with it's theme.... not sure if I will continue though as this is probably one of [i]the [/i]and [i]your [/i]most bizarre entries ever to any topic lol
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[b]Sebastian wrote:[/b]
No John: No Queen
No Roger: No Queen
No Freddie: No Queen
No Brian: No Queen[/QUOTE]
With this, I can heartily agree.
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[b]Sebastian wrote:[/b]
No John: No Queen
No Roger: No Queen
No Freddie: No Queen
No Brian: No Queen[/QUOTE]
With this, I can heartily agree.
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[b]Zebonka12 wrote: [/b]
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[b]Sebastian wrote:[/b]
No John: No Queen
No Roger: No Queen
No Freddie: No Queen
No Brian: No Queen
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With this, I can [i]heartily[/i] agree.
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Could that mean... [b]Spike : Is Queen[/b]
???
[b]Zebonka12 wrote: [/b]
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[b]Sebastian wrote:[/b]
No John: No Queen
No Roger: No Queen
No Freddie: No Queen
No Brian: No Queen
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With this, I can [i]heartily[/i] agree.
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Could that mean... [b]Spike : Is Queen[/b]
???
Without Freddie, there is NOTHING.
Queen is a tricycle. Freddie is the thing itself and the other three are the wheels. And fuck, they're not the only wheels available.
Queen is a tricycle. Freddie is the thing itself and the other three are the wheels. And fuck, they're not the only wheels available.
This has become a true literary workshop.
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[b]Funky Horsie wrote: [/b]
Without Freddie, there is NOTHING.
Queen is a tricycle. Freddie is the thing itself and the other three are the wheels. And fuck, they're not the only wheels available.
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You see, that's what I mean.
You basically stoned B. May in this thread. And you say seeing him was the best night in your life.
Where's your logic?
[b]Funky Horsie wrote: [/b]
Without Freddie, there is NOTHING.
Queen is a tricycle. Freddie is the thing itself and the other three are the wheels. And fuck, they're not the only wheels available.
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You see, that's what I mean.
You basically stoned B. May in this thread. And you say seeing him was the best night in your life.
Where's your logic?
Queen is like a foot. Brian, Roger and John are toes but Freddie is the big toe. So Queen without Fredie is like a foot without a big toe.* Any attempt to replace fred with another singer is like adding a thumb to a foot. Musically, it just won't work, but it may mean that Queen+ is better placed to hang from trees.
I hope that is clear.
*Copyright Bill Murray.
I hope that is clear.
*Copyright Bill Murray.
Queen is like a hairy back. With Freddie being the hair and John Deacon being the back. Without either you've got Brian May and Roger Taylor.
Queen were like a mobile phone: Freddie was the SIM card, and without him Bri's got to ring up an American Idol loser.
Ok, let's take out all of Freddie Mercury's songs plus his vocals, backing vocals, arrangements and piano.
What do you have?
What do you have?
Now you're just being ridiculous. Of course if you remove the lead vocal, you're left with instrumentals. But that goes for any band.
As for songwriting, you will never be able to prove that the other band members couldn't have influenced him in some way to write a piece like Bohemian Rhapsody or any of its parts. Or can you?
As for songwriting, you will never be able to prove that the other band members couldn't have influenced him in some way to write a piece like Bohemian Rhapsody or any of its parts. Or can you?
No, my point is that his amazing vocals enhance most of the songs Brian, Roger or John wrote. The vocals from Spread Your Wings are fucking incredible. If you replace Freddie with another guy, who would you choose?
Some songs are really nothing special but Freddie's vocals makes them sound much better. Another One bites the Dust, for instance.
And he was already writing rhapsodies since day 1. Does Fairy King ring any bell??
Some songs are really nothing special but Freddie's vocals makes them sound much better. Another One bites the Dust, for instance.
And he was already writing rhapsodies since day 1. Does Fairy King ring any bell??
Treasure moment?.....is that you?