[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<b>- Horsie Vai - wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Yes, but I do NOT want to have a fight with you. Let's PLEASE stop it here.[/QUOTE]
How about you take back the bullshit you said about Page and go listen to some of his early live work with Led Zep, and then apologise?
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As I said to you on MSN, I apologize if I pissed you off but I don't take back what I said about Page, at all. Please, respect my opinion.
Pete Townshend is so sloppy in his live guitar work that he is fantastic.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<font color="lime">Raf840 wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<b>- Horsie Vai - wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Yes, but I do NOT want to have a fight with you. Let's PLEASE stop it here.[/QUOTE]
How about you take back the bullshit you said about Page and go listen to some of his early live work with Led Zep, and then apologise?[/QUOTE]
If I may add my five cents to this argument-turning-into-a-medium-scale-battle:
Both of you are overcompensating the other, i.e. you are both too extreme in your statements:
First off: Page was by no means a BAD guitarist. Check out Noel Gallagher for one of those. He was technically competent (though he did not in any way excel in his technique), but his main impact was in the FORM of guitar playing: he synthesized rhythm 'n blues and rock 'n roll guitar with folk (fingerstyle phrases) and jazz (extended soloing as well as the form of these solos). So, while he did little that was truly 'new', he synthesized many of the old things into something that was new when seen on the whole.
Having said that: any statement claiming Page to be a great guitarist (as in: in the same league as Becker, Vai, Blackmore and the likes) is overblown, as is any statement claiming his incompetence.
How about you take back the bullshit you said about Page and go listen to some of his early live work with Led Zep, and then apologise?[/QUOTE]
If I may add my five cents to this argument-turning-into-a-medium-scale-battle:
Both of you are overcompensating the other, i.e. you are both too extreme in your statements:
First off: Page was by no means a BAD guitarist. Check out Noel Gallagher for one of those. He was technically competent (though he did not in any way excel in his technique), but his main impact was in the FORM of guitar playing: he synthesized rhythm 'n blues and rock 'n roll guitar with folk (fingerstyle phrases) and jazz (extended soloing as well as the form of these solos). So, while he did little that was truly 'new', he synthesized many of the old things into something that was new when seen on the whole.
Having said that: any statement claiming Page to be a great guitarist (as in: in the same league as Becker, Vai, Blackmore and the likes) is overblown, as is any statement claiming his incompetence.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<b>- Horsie Vai - wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Leaky Luke wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Led Zeppelin - Heartbreaker.. especially live[/QUOTE]you're kidding, right?[/QUOTE]
I am not.. as far as I am can read it says "YOUR favourite guitar solo"
Not the favourite guitar solo of the general crowd
I am not.. as far as I am can read it says "YOUR favourite guitar solo"
Not the favourite guitar solo of the general crowd
PS I was referring to the BBC sessions version of Heartbreaker, which was during a live show, so played live.
I agree with a lot of what Zebonka has said during this topic.
I agree with a lot of what Zebonka has said during this topic.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Leaky Luke wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<b>- Horsie Vai - wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Leaky Luke wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Led Zeppelin - Heartbreaker.. especially live[/QUOTE]you're kidding, right?[/QUOTE]
I am not.. as far as I am can read it says "YOUR favourite guitar solo"
Not the favourite guitar solo of the general crowd[/QUOTE]I was actually asking that question since it's something I would have said as a joke (because it's the worst shit I've ever fucking heard).
I thought you wanted this kind of situation...
Question: "what's your favourite singer?"
You: - Johnny Ramone
*People laughs*
I am not.. as far as I am can read it says "YOUR favourite guitar solo"
Not the favourite guitar solo of the general crowd[/QUOTE]I was actually asking that question since it's something I would have said as a joke (because it's the worst shit I've ever fucking heard).
I thought you wanted this kind of situation...
Question: "what's your favourite singer?"
You: - Johnny Ramone
*People laughs*
It's not the worst fucking shit you've ever heard...
Stop it with the histrionics. We know you hate Page. Anyone who has sat through an Oasis set will tell you that there really are worse things to listen to than the Heartbreaker solo... no matter how much you hate it, there's always worse.
I don't quite understand why your volatile posts are aimed at that solo in particular; is there some kind of bitterness towards Jimmy Page here? Did an ex-girlfriend really like him?
Is it a success:talent ratio thing that's annoying you?
For instance; there are much worse guitarists than Jimmy Page, but since he was so much more successful and listened-to than most of those guys, he deserves more piss-taking because he doesn't deserve the glory?
Stop it with the histrionics. We know you hate Page. Anyone who has sat through an Oasis set will tell you that there really are worse things to listen to than the Heartbreaker solo... no matter how much you hate it, there's always worse.
I don't quite understand why your volatile posts are aimed at that solo in particular; is there some kind of bitterness towards Jimmy Page here? Did an ex-girlfriend really like him?
Is it a success:talent ratio thing that's annoying you?
For instance; there are much worse guitarists than Jimmy Page, but since he was so much more successful and listened-to than most of those guys, he deserves more piss-taking because he doesn't deserve the glory?
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Zebonka12 wrote: [/QUOTENAME]It's not the worst fucking shit you've ever heard...
Stop it with the histrionics. We know you hate Page. Anyone who has sat through an Oasis set will tell you that there really are worse things to listen to than the Heartbreaker solo... no matter how much you hate it, there's always worse.
I don't quite understand why your volatile posts are aimed at that solo in particular; is there some kind of bitterness towards Jimmy Page here? Did an ex-girlfriend really like him?
Is it a success:talent ratio thing that's annoying you?
For instance; there are much worse guitarists than Jimmy Page, but since he was so much more successful and listened-to than most of those guys, he deserves more piss-taking because he doesn't deserve the glory?[/QUOTE]
LOL! I like that last suggestion, A karma-socialist-like division of fame :P
Stop it with the histrionics. We know you hate Page. Anyone who has sat through an Oasis set will tell you that there really are worse things to listen to than the Heartbreaker solo... no matter how much you hate it, there's always worse.
I don't quite understand why your volatile posts are aimed at that solo in particular; is there some kind of bitterness towards Jimmy Page here? Did an ex-girlfriend really like him?
Is it a success:talent ratio thing that's annoying you?
For instance; there are much worse guitarists than Jimmy Page, but since he was so much more successful and listened-to than most of those guys, he deserves more piss-taking because he doesn't deserve the glory?[/QUOTE]
LOL! I like that last suggestion, A karma-socialist-like division of fame :P
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Zebonka12 wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Is it a success:talent ratio thing that's annoying you?
For instance; there are much worse guitarists than Jimmy Page, but since he was so much more successful and listened-to than most of those guys, he deserves more piss-taking because he doesn't deserve the glory?[/QUOTE]Absolutely.
For instance; there are much worse guitarists than Jimmy Page, but since he was so much more successful and listened-to than most of those guys, he deserves more piss-taking because he doesn't deserve the glory?[/QUOTE]Absolutely.
my favorite guitar solo is....Jessica from the allman brothers
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]innuendo1990 wrote: [/QUOTENAME]my favorite guitar solo is....Jessica from the allman brothers[/QUOTE]
The doctor says you're a figment of my imagination, so fuck off.
The doctor says you're a figment of my imagination, so fuck off.
There are too many great ones to pick a favorite, but a few I would like to note would be the solo in Money, Brian's solo in You Don't Fool Me, and the not UN-short solo in Neil Young's Down By The River. Mike Campbell's solo in Runnin' Down A Dream is pretty great too.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]innuendo1990 wrote: [/QUOTENAME]my favorite guitar solo is....Jessica from the allman brothers[/QUOTE]
thanks for ruining TOP GEAR for me..
thanks for ruining TOP GEAR for me..
old age is kicking in so i forget the name of the song but theres a great guitar solo in one of the Carpenters songs that comes out of nowhere,i think the song is "close to you" but im no doubt wrong :-[