[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]drwinston wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Sorry, but I can't figure out what DSMN is - anyone?[/QUOTE]
you really have a problem working out the title of one of Freddie's finest compositions? that's almost shameful
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[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<font color="lime">Raf840 wrote: [/QUOTENAME]They'll very likely chart higher when they release something that hasn't been available for download previously.[/QUOTE]
Yup. I would think only diehards would want to buy the CD single after it was a free download. I don't see the big deal about the chart position.
Yup. I would think only diehards would want to buy the CD single after it was a free download. I don't see the big deal about the chart position.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]bigV wrote: [/QUOTENAME]My new signature is a genuine rant, derived from this thread. Take that!
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There are some major problems with your signature, though.
1) Queen is "no longer a forgotten band" because it has never been forgotten. Even though it hasn't been the most hyped band around, it's still enjoyed a status as a "legendary band" with steady success which most groups around would be thrilled with... In short, it's famous for its past, not for its present.
2) "Queen" of these days is not a living or breathing entity. It's missing vital elements, and some might even say the real spark that made it stand out the most. You could even say that "Queen" of today is nothing more than a drooling vegetable being artificially kept alive for selfish reasons, when it has no hope of recovery.
3) The music might be new (well, only a few years old anyway...) but hardly exciting. There's a reason why Is This The World We Created wasn't a single in 1984, and for that same reason Say It's Not True shouldn't have been a single either. It might have a nice sentiment, but it's just not a particularily good song.
I know all this is hard for you to believe when you're such a passionate Brian May fan, but it actually takes a lot more than just him to make the band. ;)
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There are some major problems with your signature, though.
1) Queen is "no longer a forgotten band" because it has never been forgotten. Even though it hasn't been the most hyped band around, it's still enjoyed a status as a "legendary band" with steady success which most groups around would be thrilled with... In short, it's famous for its past, not for its present.
2) "Queen" of these days is not a living or breathing entity. It's missing vital elements, and some might even say the real spark that made it stand out the most. You could even say that "Queen" of today is nothing more than a drooling vegetable being artificially kept alive for selfish reasons, when it has no hope of recovery.
3) The music might be new (well, only a few years old anyway...) but hardly exciting. There's a reason why Is This The World We Created wasn't a single in 1984, and for that same reason Say It's Not True shouldn't have been a single either. It might have a nice sentiment, but it's just not a particularily good song.
I know all this is hard for you to believe when you're such a passionate Brian May fan, but it actually takes a lot more than just him to make the band. ;)
You're right. It takes more than one person to make a great band. It takes good music. And Queen today, such as it is, still makes good music. Just wait for the new album and you'll see what I mean.
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Brenski,
Couldn't agree with you more - SINT is a disgrace. But wholly representative of a project that Brian and Roger have been involved in for some time. Quite how this simgle is going to benefit the 46664 charity os beyond me; did they really believe that they would generate enough sales to make it effective as a campaign tool?
BUT, I would simply say give them a chance. Let's see what the band album turns out to be. With a bit of luck, they wll have enough quality material to make sure that SINT isn't included in the finished product and we have an amalgamation of the best bits of Queen, Free and Bad Company; hard rocking, bluesy material with real balls.
As a first effort, it's passable, but clearly not a direction that needs persuing.
Couldn't agree with you more - SINT is a disgrace. But wholly representative of a project that Brian and Roger have been involved in for some time. Quite how this simgle is going to benefit the 46664 charity os beyond me; did they really believe that they would generate enough sales to make it effective as a campaign tool?
BUT, I would simply say give them a chance. Let's see what the band album turns out to be. With a bit of luck, they wll have enough quality material to make sure that SINT isn't included in the finished product and we have an amalgamation of the best bits of Queen, Free and Bad Company; hard rocking, bluesy material with real balls.
As a first effort, it's passable, but clearly not a direction that needs persuing.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<font color=green>Bren<font color=orange>ski wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]drwinston wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Sorry, but I can't figure out what DSMN is - anyone?[/QUOTE]
you really have a problem working out the title of one of Freddie's finest compositions? that's almost shameful[/QUOTE]
Ahh, got it - a bit slow today. What threw me was the fact that it's in the charts. Must be on a commercial or something, right?
The way I see it, whatever comes from the current "band" should be viewed as having the potential to pleasantly surprise you, and if it doesn't - move on. Jack Nicholson once said "don't waste energy hating what you don't like". Not bad for Jack, and advice that has served me well.
you really have a problem working out the title of one of Freddie's finest compositions? that's almost shameful[/QUOTE]
Ahh, got it - a bit slow today. What threw me was the fact that it's in the charts. Must be on a commercial or something, right?
The way I see it, whatever comes from the current "band" should be viewed as having the potential to pleasantly surprise you, and if it doesn't - move on. Jack Nicholson once said "don't waste energy hating what you don't like". Not bad for Jack, and advice that has served me well.
"Genuine rant", my ass. Its just a rant. There's nothing "genuine" about criticizing a single (and by extension, the band that made it) for not charting highly when the single was available for free to anyone on Planet Earth for the month prior to its commercial release. You set up your strawman and you reveled in the masturbatory delight of knocking it down.
Big deal.
I'm impressed that the single charted at all, and I think it speaks to the goodwill the Queen name retains that anybody spent good money on a single they had 4 weeks to download for free.
Big deal.
I'm impressed that the single charted at all, and I think it speaks to the goodwill the Queen name retains that anybody spent good money on a single they had 4 weeks to download for free.
i think you are being unfair.. those are my genuine observations...i honestly think it's rubbish...a dirge of s song...with little life (beyond the noble sentiment)
and i very much doubt anyone in QZ woulda bought this track if it had been written, performed and produced identically by ANY other band
as i said before, IF they produce anything that i think is "up to the pre-1995 standard" then i will applaude - wholeheartedly...don't judge me just because i dislike something that you regard as quality...perhaps i was brought up with too much quality control on queen stuff...
i have nothing against the concept of queen continuing...i really do hope roger and bri hit the old mark...but i don't have to like stuff i think is shit...and this one (as my tagline says ) ,, a turd in ribbon, still stinks of shit
it's my saying, and i know what i mean by it..."no matter how you dress something up, rubbish is still rubbish"
and i very much doubt anyone in QZ woulda bought this track if it had been written, performed and produced identically by ANY other band
as i said before, IF they produce anything that i think is "up to the pre-1995 standard" then i will applaude - wholeheartedly...don't judge me just because i dislike something that you regard as quality...perhaps i was brought up with too much quality control on queen stuff...
i have nothing against the concept of queen continuing...i really do hope roger and bri hit the old mark...but i don't have to like stuff i think is shit...and this one (as my tagline says ) ,, a turd in ribbon, still stinks of shit
it's my saying, and i know what i mean by it..."no matter how you dress something up, rubbish is still rubbish"
Sometimes I'm Amazed how some Queen fans can be so rabidly supportive of any burp coming out from Brian or Roger's mouth nowadays and in the same time they love to bash and turn to pieces anything from Hot Space or The Works.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]vadenuez wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Sometimes I'm Amazed how some Queen fans can be so rabidly supportive of any burp coming out from Brian or Roger's mouth nowadays and in the same time they love to bash and turn to pieces anything from Hot Space or The Works.[/QUOTE] you speak the truth. hot space and the works get bashed on a regular basis, but this shit song is considered very good?...Anything on hot space and the works blows this crappy song out of the water.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]mike hunt wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]vadenuez wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Sometimes I'm Amazed how some Queen fans can be so rabidly supportive of any burp coming out from Brian or Roger's mouth nowadays and in the same time they love to bash and turn to pieces anything from Hot Space or The Works.[/QUOTE] you speak the truth. hot space and the works get bashed on a regular basis, but this shit song is considered very good?...Anything on hot space and the works blows this crappy song out of the water.[/QUOTE]
couldn't agree more...and i dislike HS and the works!!!
couldn't agree more...and i dislike HS and the works!!!
I agree with everything you say Brenski. It saddens me to see 2 ageing men pissing all over the Queen name. Good on John Deacon.
Previous Brian/Roger collaborations:
Thank God its Christmas and Machines.
Cant wait for the new album. (honest).......not.
Previous Brian/Roger collaborations:
Thank God its Christmas and Machines.
Cant wait for the new album. (honest).......not.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<font color=green>Bren<font color=orange>ski wrote: [/QUOTENAME]
don't judge me just because i dislike something that you regard as quality...
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Ditto. You think your rant was quality stuff; I think it was a muddled piece of crap. Don't judge me for it.
don't judge me just because i dislike something that you regard as quality...
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Ditto. You think your rant was quality stuff; I think it was a muddled piece of crap. Don't judge me for it.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]drwinston wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Sorry, but I can't figure out what DSMN is - anyone?[/QUOTE]
Don't Try Suicide-
Oh. wait. Nevermind, I thought I was onto something there.
Don't Try Suicide-
Oh. wait. Nevermind, I thought I was onto something there.
there was a time when I was as angry as some of you about what Queen were doing, whether that was GH3, collaborations with crappy pop groups, or the choice of Paul Rodgers as lead singer. Now I have learned to accept something: it is what it is. There will never be another Queen II or News of the World. There will, however, be some new music by Brian & Roger, two people I feel I've grown up with over the years. Roger & Brian are not the same people they were 20 years ago. In that regard, some of you have really unrealisic expectations. In any event, it's quite possible if Fred were still alive Queen would be producing records you didn't like anyway. In addition, Brian & Roger are getting on a bit: they won't always be with us. You can either accept (if not appreciate or like) what they are doing now, instead of what you want them to be doing, or you're always going to be disappointed.