How to record a concert?

Hi, thi spring/summer/autumn I'm going to see a plenty of concerts, some in a stadium and some in a pub near my home; my question is: what is the best way to record concerts?
I mean, I tried to record a show with my mp3 players (very silly!) and the result was a shit.

Who can help me?

get either a better mp3 player (that records in WAV) or a minidisc player (if you're going old school).

Also, look to invest in the best microphone you can afford.

[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Penetration_Guru wrote: [/QUOTENAME]get either a better mp3 player (that records in WAV) or a minidisc player (if you're going old school).

Also, look to invest in the best microphone you can afford.[/QUOTE]

I'm looking for everything except a mp3 player :-D

Ok, tell me all about the best minidisc player and what mic do you council? I'm thinkin' of a Shure SM57...do you mean dinamyc mics?

[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Penetration_Guru wrote: [/QUOTENAME]get either a better mp3 player (that records in WAV) or a minidisc player (if you're going old school).

Also, look to invest in the best microphone you can afford.[/QUOTE]

Minidiscs are lossy.

http://www.audiohub.org/get/fa/fa.htm

[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<font color="lime">Raf840 wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Penetration_Guru wrote: [/QUOTENAME]get either a better mp3 player (that records in WAV) or a minidisc player (if you're going old school).

Also, look to invest in the best microphone you can afford.[/QUOTE]

Minidiscs are lossy.

http://www.audiohub.org/get/fa/fa.htm
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Not the Hi-MD kind. I have one Hi-MD recorder, and it records in lossless CD-quality PCM (I used it for Roger Waters last year)

As for microphones, unless you want to invest in Schoeps which I hear are the best but really expensive, I recommend http://www.soundprofessionals.com/

They have microphones that can be custom made to include a croakie mount design. I use that as it's a nice stealth recording method....no-one can tell :)

I recorded 4 concerts myself with it, and a friend of mine used it on a loan basis while in Japan to record an anime concert for me.

Get a digital camera, a good one.

you can do it with a phone to,My n73 sound and video quality is very good.

But for just audio,Maybe you should buy these memorecorders,There not to expensive i mean you pay around 100bucks and you get mp3 audio recording and about 1gig free memory for about 100-200hours of recording.

Like when I was recording Queen tribute band with my cell phone. Sound is awful, makes your ears bleed :P
Buy digital camera ;)

Digital cameras are good for a few clips, but the result is lossy. To film a concert, better invest on a real video camera. Nowadays there are some good ones at decent prices that record in DVD format.

Bradley, sorry, but mobile videos will only be "good quality" if played on small screens. Watch that on your TV and you'll see lots of blurred pixels. And, as Ms. Rebel pointed out, if you record anything at a CONCERT using a mobile, the sound will be awful. Your mobile might do well when it's you in your bedroom making a video message to put on your blog, but if you use it among a massive noisy crowd, with loud music blasting, it won't work well. The sound will make you think someone set your phone to record, and then dropped it inside the washing machine.

@ Inu-Liger: Cool! Are they expensive?

I don't want to take any footage of the shows and I won't buy a cell-phone, damn, i hate those little crazy devices! Just an audio-recorder.


What mini-disk player do you raccomend (model)? And microphone (model again)?

Thank you for your kind replies :-D

Riccardo

I prefer the shove the camcorder down your pants method, get past security, and film kind.

;)

For those of you girls trying to sneak in recording cameras, a box of pads or tampons is the best place to hide them.

No security guard will have the guts to ask you to open it.

For me, FOR THE REASONABLE MONEY, the best two ways are:

1. Sony Walkman MZ-RH1/MZ-NH900 + 1GB Hi-MD disc + Sony ECM-719 (external stereo microphone, really great, like-professional-sound!)

These Sony Walkmans record in PCM mode – recording in PCM mode it gives 94 min maximum recording time using 1Gb Hi-MD.
Important! – They ALSO have Hi-SP mode (it is the second after PCM) and you get 475 min recording space in this mode. Your ears don’t feel the difference between lossless PCM and Hi-SP (I always recorded our rehearsals in this mode).

Beautiful Sony ECM-719 is here: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=140197987406

2. Zoom H2 Surround (!!!) recorder + 8Gb SD card
Greatest NEW equipment that even kicks Sony Walkman MD! It even records into 4-channels using 2 front and 2 rear internal microphones!!! It records in PCM 96 kHz/24-bit and with 8Gb SD card you have around 240 min recording time (in 2-channels STEREO mode). Look at these two links, the second review has samples!:

http://www.zoom.co.jp/english/products/h2/

http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/a/oreilly/digitalmedia/2007/09/13/review-zoom-h2-surround-recorder.html?page=1



My MZ-NH900 was broken in a year and I only recorded our rehearsals in a room.

Hope it helps, Queen lovers!

[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Seven_Seas_Of_Rhye II wrote: [/QUOTENAME]

2. Zoom H2 Surround (!!!) recorder + 8Gb SD card
Greatest NEW equipment that even kicks Sony Walkman MD! It even records into 4-channels using 2 front and 2 rear internal microphones!!! It records in PCM 96 kHz/24-bit and with 8Gb SD card you have around 240 min recording time (in 2-channels STEREO mode). Look at these two links, the second review has samples!:

http://www.zoom.co.jp/english/products/h2/

http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/a/oreilly/digitalmedia/2007/09/13/review-zoom-h2-surround-recorder.html?page=1



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Whoa, this kicks ass!
I've got a review on a guitar magazine and they says it's a good device....it costs a lot for me, but I think I'll save money for this...in addition, I'm looking for a system to record myself while I'm playing, so this would tie the games!
Thank you for your advice!
One thing: when I'm at the gig, where is the best position to keep the Zoom?

Regards,

Riccardo

I really don't guess how to hold Zoom at gig when you're recording. I think if I buy it I will use stereo EXternal microphone (Sony ECM-719 for example).

Maybe to stick it to the cap - that would be the way to hide it :-))