Don't worry Alex, if this is caused by SBE errors, Queenlive is on it, and if there was a problem I will do this and share again soon !!
Regards,
Olivier,
France.
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For anyone interested, here is the method I use to check and correct SBE errors. Feel free to add your comments and to complete or modify if it is not the perfect method !
The great software for that is Trader's Little Helper (there are a lot of other helpful functions in this software). It is also known as TLH.
I will do as if you don't know about that software. Just follow this link : http://tlh.easytree.org/ and download and install the software. If the link doesn't work, you'll have to seek it on the web but as it is quite well-known among a lot of collectors communities, you should find it quite easily.
When you set up the software, don't choose the "professional" version (don't know how it is called) but the classic version, for beginners, or whatever it i called. Don't forget to specify the level 8 for Flac if it is asked during the setting up.
Once installed, your software offers you a lot of possibilities. I will only talk about SBE for the moment as it is what is important for the moment, on the subject of the Brian May share. Open the software, and then choose "Analysis" and "check audio files for SBE". You will have to browse and select the files you want to check. Do the test with the Brian May files just shared and you'll see what I mean.
So, you checked the files. To fix them, just select "Tools" and "Fix SBES" in the menu above. Add your files, check that they are in the right order, from 1 to 26 (there were 26 files if I remember well), and check the following options :
Mode : Fix
Action : Ship backwards
Two boxes below, tick only the second one, "Pad Last Files with 0 bytes".
In the "re-encoding" level section, choose FLAC level 8 (Very Important, don't forget that one ! 8 is perfect, 6 is the default value I think. don't bother about the APE figure in this section).
In the output section, select if you want the new corrected files to be created on the same directory or in a new one (that you could call "Brian May Osaka SBE corrected to avoid mistakes). If it is in the same directory, you can overwrite the files, but for a first attempt I would suggest you to create a new folder, if you made a mistake then there is no problem, you can erase the wrong directory and try again.
That's it, the computer does the rest as soon as you click on "Fix".
Regards,
Olivier,
France.
The great software for that is Trader's Little Helper (there are a lot of other helpful functions in this software). It is also known as TLH.
I will do as if you don't know about that software. Just follow this link : http://tlh.easytree.org/ and download and install the software. If the link doesn't work, you'll have to seek it on the web but as it is quite well-known among a lot of collectors communities, you should find it quite easily.
When you set up the software, don't choose the "professional" version (don't know how it is called) but the classic version, for beginners, or whatever it i called. Don't forget to specify the level 8 for Flac if it is asked during the setting up.
Once installed, your software offers you a lot of possibilities. I will only talk about SBE for the moment as it is what is important for the moment, on the subject of the Brian May share. Open the software, and then choose "Analysis" and "check audio files for SBE". You will have to browse and select the files you want to check. Do the test with the Brian May files just shared and you'll see what I mean.
So, you checked the files. To fix them, just select "Tools" and "Fix SBES" in the menu above. Add your files, check that they are in the right order, from 1 to 26 (there were 26 files if I remember well), and check the following options :
Mode : Fix
Action : Ship backwards
Two boxes below, tick only the second one, "Pad Last Files with 0 bytes".
In the "re-encoding" level section, choose FLAC level 8 (Very Important, don't forget that one ! 8 is perfect, 6 is the default value I think. don't bother about the APE figure in this section).
In the output section, select if you want the new corrected files to be created on the same directory or in a new one (that you could call "Brian May Osaka SBE corrected to avoid mistakes). If it is in the same directory, you can overwrite the files, but for a first attempt I would suggest you to create a new folder, if you made a mistake then there is no problem, you can erase the wrong directory and try again.
That's it, the computer does the rest as soon as you click on "Fix".
Regards,
Olivier,
France.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]ruth.olivier wrote: [/QUOTENAME]For anyone interested, here is the method I use to check and correct SBE errors
... the ramblings of a genius ...
That's it, the computer does the rest as soon as you click on "Fix".
Regards,
Olivier,
France.[/QUOTE]
Thanks for the guide Olivier - I shall file this away for future reference! Unfortunately it hasn't removed the clicks. Well at least not from my copy! :(
... the ramblings of a genius ...
That's it, the computer does the rest as soon as you click on "Fix".
Regards,
Olivier,
France.[/QUOTE]
Thanks for the guide Olivier - I shall file this away for future reference! Unfortunately it hasn't removed the clicks. Well at least not from my copy! :(
Thanks for the helpful guide Olivier but unfortunately SB errors and clicks like the one present in this show are not the same so they cannot be treated with that TLH feature.
This click removal should be done manually with an editing app like GoldWave or Adobe Audition (Audicity a nice free option)
Again, I don't feel like doing that editing so I hope someone can.
Cheers.
This click removal should be done manually with an editing app like GoldWave or Adobe Audition (Audicity a nice free option)
Again, I don't feel like doing that editing so I hope someone can.
Cheers.
OK, so SBE had to be fixed. I could not do that because of the two files which were corrupted, and could not check after that if it had corrected the clicks.
Unfortunately I can't edit manually, I'm not that expert. So maybe someone more skilled could also do a small tutorial here, as we could learn new things, and fix this recording properly.
We should need a special part o this forum for all technical problems and explanations !
Hope someone could be of some help here !
Regards,
Olivier,
France.
Unfortunately I can't edit manually, I'm not that expert. So maybe someone more skilled could also do a small tutorial here, as we could learn new things, and fix this recording properly.
We should need a special part o this forum for all technical problems and explanations !
Hope someone could be of some help here !
Regards,
Olivier,
France.
Any news ? is someone working on this recording, or anyone has a better version available, without those clicks, and maybe a complete lineage ?
Regards,
Olivier,
France.
Regards,
Olivier,
France.
Olivier, how can I correct a click? Are there any tutorials on the web?
I might try to do it.
I might try to do it.
You would help me if you wrote where are the clicks. I'm currently on track 20 and I still found none (but it is the truth that I'm not listening to whole songs, just parts)
I found this tutorial for removing click(s) with audacity:
http://www.audacityteam.org/wiki/index.php?title=Click_Removal
http://www.audacityteam.org/wiki/index.php?title=Click_Removal
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]daffy_the_duck wrote: [/QUOTENAME]I found this tutorial for removing click(s) with audacity:
http://www.audacityteam.org/wiki/index.php?title=Click_Removal[/QUOTE]
Thank you!
Tomorrow I'll try to work on it.
Don't shame on me but...exactly what is a click? I'm very confused 'cause sometimes 'click' means a thing, sometimes another different one...in this case, a 'click' is a noise that sounds as 'click!'. Is the same click of old dusty vinyls?
Don't hate me for this stupid question that only a n00b like me can do!
http://www.audacityteam.org/wiki/index.php?title=Click_Removal[/QUOTE]
Thank you!
Tomorrow I'll try to work on it.
Don't shame on me but...exactly what is a click? I'm very confused 'cause sometimes 'click' means a thing, sometimes another different one...in this case, a 'click' is a noise that sounds as 'click!'. Is the same click of old dusty vinyls?
Don't hate me for this stupid question that only a n00b like me can do!
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]ruth.olivier wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Any news ? is someone working on this recording, or anyone has a better version available, without those clicks, and maybe a complete lineage ?
Regards,
Olivier,
France.[/QUOTE]
Unfortunately, Audacity's Click Removal tool doesn't seem to want to pick up the clicks so I'm going through and removing them manually....!
It's going to take a while but I'll shove the results up online once I am done.
Regards,
Olivier,
France.[/QUOTE]
Unfortunately, Audacity's Click Removal tool doesn't seem to want to pick up the clicks so I'm going through and removing them manually....!
It's going to take a while but I'll shove the results up online once I am done.
Thanks for the tutorial !
We should do that with every technical subject, whether it is related to Flac, or burning CDs or DVDs or whatever, and have a sort of "technical" thread that would sum up all these things, as we could therefore refer to one single post to learn things we don't know and to allow newbies to access easily to all that explanation. It's great to share that information !
Thanks rg2l for your work on this recording, if we can sort it out and make more enjoyable then it would be a great achievement !!
To Pittrek, try to listen to the four or five first songs at once, the clicks are at the very beginning of the songs, or at the moment the track changes; maybe you know that sort of problem, I personnally don't remember having experienced it before, but knew that kind of problem could happen !
Thanks again !
Regards,
Olivier,
France.
We should do that with every technical subject, whether it is related to Flac, or burning CDs or DVDs or whatever, and have a sort of "technical" thread that would sum up all these things, as we could therefore refer to one single post to learn things we don't know and to allow newbies to access easily to all that explanation. It's great to share that information !
Thanks rg2l for your work on this recording, if we can sort it out and make more enjoyable then it would be a great achievement !!
To Pittrek, try to listen to the four or five first songs at once, the clicks are at the very beginning of the songs, or at the moment the track changes; maybe you know that sort of problem, I personnally don't remember having experienced it before, but knew that kind of problem could happen !
Thanks again !
Regards,
Olivier,
France.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]ruth.olivier wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Thanks for the tutorial !
We should do that with every technical subject, whether it is related to Flac, or burning CDs or DVDs or whatever, and have a sort of "technical" thread that would sum up all these things, as we could therefore refer to one single post to learn things we don't know and to allow newbies to access easily to all that explanation. It's great to share that information !
Thanks rg2l for your work on this recording, if we can sort it out and make more enjoyable then it would be a great achievement !!
To Pittrek, try to listen to the four or five first songs at once, the clicks are at the very beginning of the songs, or at the moment the track changes; maybe you know that sort of problem, I personnally don't remember having experienced it before, but knew that kind of problem could happen !
Thanks again !
Regards,
Olivier,
France.[/QUOTE]
I agree - would be nice to build up a knowledge base around here.
Anyway, I've manually edited all the clicks from the start of each track so I am now in the process of uploading the files back to mediafire - will probably create a new thread but will post here when the first links are up.
Just so that we're clear, I have done the following:
1) Decompress to WAV using TLH
2) Fix SBEs using TLH
3) Manually wave-edit out the clicks using Audacity
4) Recompress to FLAC (level 8) using TLH
Tim
We should do that with every technical subject, whether it is related to Flac, or burning CDs or DVDs or whatever, and have a sort of "technical" thread that would sum up all these things, as we could therefore refer to one single post to learn things we don't know and to allow newbies to access easily to all that explanation. It's great to share that information !
Thanks rg2l for your work on this recording, if we can sort it out and make more enjoyable then it would be a great achievement !!
To Pittrek, try to listen to the four or five first songs at once, the clicks are at the very beginning of the songs, or at the moment the track changes; maybe you know that sort of problem, I personnally don't remember having experienced it before, but knew that kind of problem could happen !
Thanks again !
Regards,
Olivier,
France.[/QUOTE]
I agree - would be nice to build up a knowledge base around here.
Anyway, I've manually edited all the clicks from the start of each track so I am now in the process of uploading the files back to mediafire - will probably create a new thread but will post here when the first links are up.
Just so that we're clear, I have done the following:
1) Decompress to WAV using TLH
2) Fix SBEs using TLH
3) Manually wave-edit out the clicks using Audacity
4) Recompress to FLAC (level 8) using TLH
Tim
hi
I am sorry for not responding befor I have been away for some days
There is the same click at the concert I have - I dont know what to do about it
I am sorry for not responding befor I have been away for some days
There is the same click at the concert I have - I dont know what to do about it
You rule Tim....
Perfect !! Take your time reuploading !
It's nice from you assuming this probably time-consuming job. Now we will have a cleaner recording of a Brian May show... I hope we can go on with those Brian May shares, I really enjoy them !
Tim, would you mind helping Queenline with the other recording and explain him clearly how to proceed ?
Also, anybody has an idea of the lineage maybe ?
Thanks a lot to you all for the technician advices !
Regards,
Olivier,
France.
Perfect !! Take your time reuploading !
It's nice from you assuming this probably time-consuming job. Now we will have a cleaner recording of a Brian May show... I hope we can go on with those Brian May shares, I really enjoy them !
Tim, would you mind helping Queenline with the other recording and explain him clearly how to proceed ?
Also, anybody has an idea of the lineage maybe ?
Thanks a lot to you all for the technician advices !
Regards,
Olivier,
France.