http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20080329/sc_afp/canadaanimalhuntsealaccident_080329194237
Oh well, a few of those bastards dead as oppossed to the thousands seals that will be cruelly slaughtered.
Not a lot of justice there.
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OH are you guys sucking some karmic COCK right now or what
There is some justice in the world...
There is some justice in the world...
Damn. Only three dead and one missing. Not nearly enough of those bastards. I just hope the ones that died, died just as slowly and painfully and in as much of a desperate panic to survive as the baby seals they bludgeon to death - 800 in just one day. Those pricks got what they deserve. Too bad more of them didn't go down.
What a load of new age p*sh.
I do not agree with animal cruelty - but to rejoice in the deaths of other human beings - is the greatest cruelty of all. Shame on you.
These were just normal men doing a difficult job to support their families. What makes these men any different from any other fisherman, farmer, butcher, trapper, pest-controller etc? All wo/men are animals. The paradox of life - is that it is only sustainable via death. No food is inorganic.
I eat meat, but I do not have to kill it.
I wear leather, but I do not have to skin it.
Does this give me the right to criticise others who do?
To elevate animal life above any human life - is political correctness gone mad.
I do not agree with animal cruelty - but to rejoice in the deaths of other human beings - is the greatest cruelty of all. Shame on you.
These were just normal men doing a difficult job to support their families. What makes these men any different from any other fisherman, farmer, butcher, trapper, pest-controller etc? All wo/men are animals. The paradox of life - is that it is only sustainable via death. No food is inorganic.
I eat meat, but I do not have to kill it.
I wear leather, but I do not have to skin it.
Does this give me the right to criticise others who do?
To elevate animal life above any human life - is political correctness gone mad.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]John S Stuart wrote: [/QUOTENAME]
I do not agree with animal cruelty - but to rejoice in the deaths of other human beings - is the greatest cruelty of all. Shame on you...
...To elevate animal life above any human life - is political correctness gone mad. [/QUOTE]
Obviously, I disagree. These men are not just fishermen, they 'hunt' these baby seals who have absolutely no defense and no way to escape, and then they beat them to death while the seals scream and cry in pain and terror. I don't eat meat and I don't wear/use leather. I don't believe in animal cruelty and that is what this is.. only worse because it's legal.
In my eyes, these men are as barbaric as child abusers/molesters/murderers for doing what they do. In my eyes, their deaths are a minor bit of justice for the injustice of their 'jobs'.
I do not agree with animal cruelty - but to rejoice in the deaths of other human beings - is the greatest cruelty of all. Shame on you...
...To elevate animal life above any human life - is political correctness gone mad. [/QUOTE]
Obviously, I disagree. These men are not just fishermen, they 'hunt' these baby seals who have absolutely no defense and no way to escape, and then they beat them to death while the seals scream and cry in pain and terror. I don't eat meat and I don't wear/use leather. I don't believe in animal cruelty and that is what this is.. only worse because it's legal.
In my eyes, these men are as barbaric as child abusers/molesters/murderers for doing what they do. In my eyes, their deaths are a minor bit of justice for the injustice of their 'jobs'.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]John S Stuart wrote: [/QUOTENAME]
To elevate animal life above any human life - is political correctness gone mad.[/QUOTE]
My my, don't WE have a high opinion of our worth to the world?
To elevate animal life above any human life - is political correctness gone mad.[/QUOTE]
My my, don't WE have a high opinion of our worth to the world?
I think seal hunting should be outlawed internationally but it isn't. I agree that it is cruel and should be stopped immediately. However, I cannot be glad about people dying doing a job that is still legal. I think the death penalty is NOT an appropriate punishment for seal hunting (or anyother crime for that matter).
How would you like if we celebrated the death of 4000 American soldiers in Iraq? After all, they killed estimated 900 000 - 1,2 million defenseless men, women and children in their homes, in the streets, schools, hospitals, churches. That's a bigger crime in my opinion and still no civilized person would applaud when a US soldier is killed.
How would you like if we celebrated the death of 4000 American soldiers in Iraq? After all, they killed estimated 900 000 - 1,2 million defenseless men, women and children in their homes, in the streets, schools, hospitals, churches. That's a bigger crime in my opinion and still no civilized person would applaud when a US soldier is killed.
It's because seals are cute.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]YourValentine wrote: [/QUOTENAME]
How would you like if we celebrated the death of 4000 American soldiers in Iraq? After all, they killed estimated 900 000 - 1,2 million defenseless men, women and children in their homes, in the streets, schools, hospitals, churches. That's a bigger crime in my opinion and still no civilized person would applaud when a US soldier is killed. [/QUOTE]
I'd say the difference here is extreme. I am not at all for the war, but soldiers went into it for a noble cause... or for lies that implied it was a noble cause. There isn't a shred of honor in what these seal hunters are doing. While I won't spare a moment of my time feeling sympathy for the ones who died, nor will I applaud their deaths. I will and do, however, feel relief and justice being served since three (or four) less hunters will be out there, at least for today, clobbering these seals to death.
I find it odd how people stand up for 'humans' simple because they're human. Inhumane acts, IMO, deserve inhumane punishments, and the only grief I'll feel is for the true and innocent victims.
How would you like if we celebrated the death of 4000 American soldiers in Iraq? After all, they killed estimated 900 000 - 1,2 million defenseless men, women and children in their homes, in the streets, schools, hospitals, churches. That's a bigger crime in my opinion and still no civilized person would applaud when a US soldier is killed. [/QUOTE]
I'd say the difference here is extreme. I am not at all for the war, but soldiers went into it for a noble cause... or for lies that implied it was a noble cause. There isn't a shred of honor in what these seal hunters are doing. While I won't spare a moment of my time feeling sympathy for the ones who died, nor will I applaud their deaths. I will and do, however, feel relief and justice being served since three (or four) less hunters will be out there, at least for today, clobbering these seals to death.
I find it odd how people stand up for 'humans' simple because they're human. Inhumane acts, IMO, deserve inhumane punishments, and the only grief I'll feel is for the true and innocent victims.
I really respect you, magicalfreddiemercury but I can think until I am blue in the face and I do not see a "noble cause" in attacking a country that did not do anything to your country and to kill hundreds of thousands of innocent people who never did any injustice to you or your country while it's "inhumane" when seal hunters make a living in areas where there are not many other means of income. Seal hunting has a tradition that reaches back thousands of years. I may not like it but then I do not like other traditions like bull fights, eating turkeys on Thanksgiving, kosher and halal slaughter, obtaining caviar by slicing up a living fish and many more practices that include animal suffering. Still, I think it's not "justice" when people drown in a boat accident. It's true that I feel more for the victims of a cruel war - no matter how "noble" the cause.
I think we are placing way too much value on human life here. I'm not elevating the value of animal life by any means. I like a good steak.
I'm just saying, we aren't that special. 6 billion people in the world, here. If you go out on a boat at 1 AM, expect accidents. Shit happens. I could die tomorrow, big deal.
Fuck these stupid seal clubbers. They knew the risks; or should have. I still say it's karma. I don't care if they 'earn their living' by clubbing seals, or how much of a tradition it is. Bullfighting is a tradition, but that doesn't mean I don't laugh my *arse* off when members of the audience get trampled or gored by a big fat bull horn. They deserve it.
It's not nice, but it's true. Owing to some of the shit on this forum, I'm sure I deserve AIDS and some kind of bereavement.. I don't LIKE the idea, but it's God's honest truth. Some people just have it coming,
like these idiot seal-clubbers.
I'm just saying, we aren't that special. 6 billion people in the world, here. If you go out on a boat at 1 AM, expect accidents. Shit happens. I could die tomorrow, big deal.
Fuck these stupid seal clubbers. They knew the risks; or should have. I still say it's karma. I don't care if they 'earn their living' by clubbing seals, or how much of a tradition it is. Bullfighting is a tradition, but that doesn't mean I don't laugh my *arse* off when members of the audience get trampled or gored by a big fat bull horn. They deserve it.
It's not nice, but it's true. Owing to some of the shit on this forum, I'm sure I deserve AIDS and some kind of bereavement.. I don't LIKE the idea, but it's God's honest truth. Some people just have it coming,
like these idiot seal-clubbers.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]YourValentine wrote: [/QUOTENAME]
How would you like if we celebrated the death of 4000 American soldiers in Iraq? After all, they killed estimated 900 000 - 1,2 million defenseless men, women and children in their homes, in the streets, schools, hospitals, churches. That's a bigger crime in my opinion and still no civilized person would applaud when a US soldier is killed.[/QUOTE]
Wait a minute...
I'm the one of the first people here to criticize U.S. foreign policy, and it hurts me to admit that there's a great amount of civilian deaths taken by the hands of the U.S. army.
However, you just have to watch the news to realize that many of the deaths in Iraq (perhaps most) were caused by the insurgency and terrorist groups like Al-Qaeda.
I will admit that none of this would have happened if we would have stayed out of Iraq, but from there to hold the U.S. completely responsible for around 1 million civilian deaths, is just viewing things from a single perspective.
Back to the topic about the seal hunt... all I have to say is that perhaps Karma exists, and it's a hell of a bitch.
How would you like if we celebrated the death of 4000 American soldiers in Iraq? After all, they killed estimated 900 000 - 1,2 million defenseless men, women and children in their homes, in the streets, schools, hospitals, churches. That's a bigger crime in my opinion and still no civilized person would applaud when a US soldier is killed.[/QUOTE]
Wait a minute...
I'm the one of the first people here to criticize U.S. foreign policy, and it hurts me to admit that there's a great amount of civilian deaths taken by the hands of the U.S. army.
However, you just have to watch the news to realize that many of the deaths in Iraq (perhaps most) were caused by the insurgency and terrorist groups like Al-Qaeda.
I will admit that none of this would have happened if we would have stayed out of Iraq, but from there to hold the U.S. completely responsible for around 1 million civilian deaths, is just viewing things from a single perspective.
Back to the topic about the seal hunt... all I have to say is that perhaps Karma exists, and it's a hell of a bitch.
Karma is a big cock and the seal hunters have it jammed in their mouths right now.
Stretchmarks of equilibrium, right there.
Stretchmarks of equilibrium, right there.
Scoreboard
Seals: 4
Seal hunters: 0
Seals: 4
Seal hunters: 0
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]YourValentine wrote: [/QUOTENAME]I really respect you, magicalfreddiemercury but I can think until I am blue in the face and I do not see a "noble cause" in attacking a country that did not do anything to your country and to kill hundreds of thousands of innocent people who never did any injustice to you or your country while it's "inhumane" when seal hunters make a living in areas where there are not many other means of income. Seal hunting has a tradition that reaches back thousands of years. I may not like it but then I do not like other traditions like bull fights, eating turkeys on Thanksgiving, kosher and halal slaughter, obtaining caviar by slicing up a living fish and many more practices that include animal suffering. Still, I think it's not "justice" when people drown in a boat accident. It's true that I feel more for the victims of a cruel war - no matter how "noble" the cause. [/QUOTE]
I agree with almost everything you've said here. Almost. :-)
As for the ‘noble’ part of this war, that is aimed directly at the soldiers who put their lives on the line in an effort to protect the homeland – which is what this disgraceful administration had insisted was the case when they sent our troops there in the first place. That's where 'noble' starts and ends for me where this war is concerned.
Seal hunters have no such honor at any time. Their intent is to destroy innocence and that’s just what they do. Maybe it's cold-hearted of me, but I can't help but to think only of that handful of baby seals who were spared the torture because those hunters’ died.
I agree with almost everything you've said here. Almost. :-)
As for the ‘noble’ part of this war, that is aimed directly at the soldiers who put their lives on the line in an effort to protect the homeland – which is what this disgraceful administration had insisted was the case when they sent our troops there in the first place. That's where 'noble' starts and ends for me where this war is concerned.
Seal hunters have no such honor at any time. Their intent is to destroy innocence and that’s just what they do. Maybe it's cold-hearted of me, but I can't help but to think only of that handful of baby seals who were spared the torture because those hunters’ died.