[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Fenderek wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]somedayoneday wrote: [/QUOTENAME]But oh no, someone goes and records, and so there instantly exists the possibility that the recording could be used for the wrong ends.[/QUOTE]
I'm gonna ask you what I asked Greg (with no reply, obviously).
How do you know this recording exists? Did you hear ANYTHING?[/QUOTE]
Of course not, but please refer to the details at the start of this thread - the reason why it was started. If the recording is not shared, I'm glad, if it's been destroyed I'm even happier. Best, however, if it never existed at all. Maybe this is the case? Anyway, I have answered you, though I'm sure Greg could give you a better answer as he was the one who started the thread. My concern lies in the possibility that we may not get these recordings played to us again if someone chooses to disregard instructions.
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I recorded it and sold it on ebay.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Zebonka12 wrote: [/QUOTENAME]I recorded it and sold it on ebay.[/QUOTE]
Did you cover the cost of your return flight?
Did you cover the cost of your return flight?
Dear Greg,
I have been a reader of this board for years, and after reading your post I had to be part of this conversation.
First of all, let me tell you that I respect your point of view and interesting job.
I think you are doing something useful and we will enjoy some of your compiled information some way in future Queen printed products.
We can say you did the right thing by saying "Guys, I have to tell you something: don't record this, please". It is part of your job and you do it OK.
Now please, think about the reasons why things happen the way they do.
The answer in the end will be simple. We all LOVE Queen and their music.
In 1998 I recorded Brian playing in my country. The sound is bad but I still feel great every time I play that old tape and find myself there, amazed, cheering and clapping in the middle of the songs.
I did the same thing in 2005 and let me tell you those tapes are now part of the story of my life. Happy moments on tape that I still can taste when I play them.
But this is not just about the audio and video files recorded where we were in person to record them.
As many people in this board, I have a big collection of demos, Queen shows and solo shows.
I enjoy every single second of these CDs and tapes.
When you keep listening to just one or two versions of a single song for 15 years, maybe 20, I can tell you that getting new live versions, edited versions, demo versions, instrumental versions, rehearsal versions, cover versions, banned versions or any other will always be welcome and a reason to enjoy them again and again.
We all enjoy their interviews, shows, albums, demos and any other stuff that we can get the chance to listen to.
Now lets face it.
If we all could hear right now the stuff from the new Cosmos album (even with bad audio quality), we ALL would hear it. NO-ONE would say: "I love this band so much that I will wait and listen to it when it is released within 3 months". We are all want to hear it as soon as possible because we LOVE what they do!
If you love Queen, that is what you do. If you hate Queen or dont care about them, you simply don't pay any attention to what they do because you dont like them at all.
People going to the conventions can enjoy some rare stuff with great quality and your personal comments on the tracks. I think that is something great for the fans interested in going there.
If the rest of the fans all over the world would have the opportunity to listen to a crappy recording of any of those rare songs that others heard first with nice quality, I can tell you any of us would listen to it with excitement and joy.
We are not talking about killers, monsters or bad and unpleasant people. Not even thieves.
I wish thieves in this world were only interested in enjoying never heard songs. I'm sure life would be much better for everybody.
Months before Made In Heaven, in 1995, I got the now common Too Much love Will Kill You demo with Freddie singing. After 3 years only hearing the Brian version from his album, I heard that one for the very first time and made me cry. It was so beautiful!
That song I had heard so many times for 3 years, was new again to me with that demo.
And when you are a Queen fan, anything new to your ears (specially with Freddie's voice on it) is like a perfect moment that gets you back to all the previous premiere parties you had at home listening every record, b-side or soundboard bootleg recording for the first time.
As long as we feel this emotions for Queen music, we fans are not bad kids with bad behaviour that should be corrected. Your post made me remember something
that many of us probably remember from when we were at school.
Someone was talking while the teacher was in the middle of an explanation. Then, the teacher punishes the whole group of kids and says: "you all had been warned, I wanted all of you to stay in silence, but one of you did not! now you are all punished. Dont you like it? th
I have been a reader of this board for years, and after reading your post I had to be part of this conversation.
First of all, let me tell you that I respect your point of view and interesting job.
I think you are doing something useful and we will enjoy some of your compiled information some way in future Queen printed products.
We can say you did the right thing by saying "Guys, I have to tell you something: don't record this, please". It is part of your job and you do it OK.
Now please, think about the reasons why things happen the way they do.
The answer in the end will be simple. We all LOVE Queen and their music.
In 1998 I recorded Brian playing in my country. The sound is bad but I still feel great every time I play that old tape and find myself there, amazed, cheering and clapping in the middle of the songs.
I did the same thing in 2005 and let me tell you those tapes are now part of the story of my life. Happy moments on tape that I still can taste when I play them.
But this is not just about the audio and video files recorded where we were in person to record them.
As many people in this board, I have a big collection of demos, Queen shows and solo shows.
I enjoy every single second of these CDs and tapes.
When you keep listening to just one or two versions of a single song for 15 years, maybe 20, I can tell you that getting new live versions, edited versions, demo versions, instrumental versions, rehearsal versions, cover versions, banned versions or any other will always be welcome and a reason to enjoy them again and again.
We all enjoy their interviews, shows, albums, demos and any other stuff that we can get the chance to listen to.
Now lets face it.
If we all could hear right now the stuff from the new Cosmos album (even with bad audio quality), we ALL would hear it. NO-ONE would say: "I love this band so much that I will wait and listen to it when it is released within 3 months". We are all want to hear it as soon as possible because we LOVE what they do!
If you love Queen, that is what you do. If you hate Queen or dont care about them, you simply don't pay any attention to what they do because you dont like them at all.
People going to the conventions can enjoy some rare stuff with great quality and your personal comments on the tracks. I think that is something great for the fans interested in going there.
If the rest of the fans all over the world would have the opportunity to listen to a crappy recording of any of those rare songs that others heard first with nice quality, I can tell you any of us would listen to it with excitement and joy.
We are not talking about killers, monsters or bad and unpleasant people. Not even thieves.
I wish thieves in this world were only interested in enjoying never heard songs. I'm sure life would be much better for everybody.
Months before Made In Heaven, in 1995, I got the now common Too Much love Will Kill You demo with Freddie singing. After 3 years only hearing the Brian version from his album, I heard that one for the very first time and made me cry. It was so beautiful!
That song I had heard so many times for 3 years, was new again to me with that demo.
And when you are a Queen fan, anything new to your ears (specially with Freddie's voice on it) is like a perfect moment that gets you back to all the previous premiere parties you had at home listening every record, b-side or soundboard bootleg recording for the first time.
As long as we feel this emotions for Queen music, we fans are not bad kids with bad behaviour that should be corrected. Your post made me remember something
that many of us probably remember from when we were at school.
Someone was talking while the teacher was in the middle of an explanation. Then, the teacher punishes the whole group of kids and says: "you all had been warned, I wanted all of you to stay in silence, but one of you did not! now you are all punished. Dont you like it? th
Blah blah..I'm the Queen archivist, I know loads of stuff and I'm not going to tell you....you must all worship me.......BORING.
Greg, if you went awway and never came back no-one would lose a seconds sleep. Goodbye cock tease.
Greg, if you went awway and never came back no-one would lose a seconds sleep. Goodbye cock tease.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]somedayoneday wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Zebonka12 wrote: [/QUOTENAME]I recorded it and sold it on ebay.[/QUOTE]
Did you cover the cost of your return flight?[/QUOTE]
It paid for everyone elses ticket as well.
Did you cover the cost of your return flight?[/QUOTE]
It paid for everyone elses ticket as well.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]CM wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Dear Greg,
I have been a reader of this board for years, and after reading your post I had to be part of this conversation.... blah blah blah....
Your friend,
Cesar
[/QUOTE]
Okay, I'm not going to waste half a page duplicating Cesar's full posting, it's on Page FOUR for anyone who wants to read it.
I'm simply going to say that I am totally in agreement with him.
It IS a shame that we convention goers are asked not to record the demo tracks, complete with people talking, coughing, sneezing, footsteps and "Property of QPL" all over them and then share them on forums like this one, because those people unable to attend the conventions miss out on some wonderful music, however dreadful the quality of the recordings.
At the end of the day, when these recordings are released officially, there isn't one person here who won't want to buy them inorder to hear them in glorious pristine stereo sound, regardless as to whether they possess dodgy MP3 (amatuer) convention recordings or not.
So what exactly IS the issue?
Finally, I think you may have jumped the gun a little Mr Brooks, as I believe it is the music that you ask people not to record at convention, and NOT what you say.
I have been a reader of this board for years, and after reading your post I had to be part of this conversation.... blah blah blah....
Your friend,
Cesar
[/QUOTE]
Okay, I'm not going to waste half a page duplicating Cesar's full posting, it's on Page FOUR for anyone who wants to read it.
I'm simply going to say that I am totally in agreement with him.
It IS a shame that we convention goers are asked not to record the demo tracks, complete with people talking, coughing, sneezing, footsteps and "Property of QPL" all over them and then share them on forums like this one, because those people unable to attend the conventions miss out on some wonderful music, however dreadful the quality of the recordings.
At the end of the day, when these recordings are released officially, there isn't one person here who won't want to buy them inorder to hear them in glorious pristine stereo sound, regardless as to whether they possess dodgy MP3 (amatuer) convention recordings or not.
So what exactly IS the issue?
Finally, I think you may have jumped the gun a little Mr Brooks, as I believe it is the music that you ask people not to record at convention, and NOT what you say.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]somedayoneday wrote: [/QUOTENAME]so there instantly exists the possibility that the recording could be used for the wrong ends.[/QUOTE]
This is somewhat similar to what Indiana Jones said at the end of Raiders Of The Lost Ark, just replace "Ark" for "recording".
Now I was pretty impressed with the "power" unleashed by the ark, especially when it melted those two evil dudes. Paul Freeman's exploding head was also quite the trick.
But really, Greg, is this material THAT powerful?
Well, then it should probably stay locked up and NOT played for convention go-ers in the first place. It's YOU - GREG BROOKS - that are placing the lives of conventioners at risk. What, do you have some sort of "God" complex?
This is somewhat similar to what Indiana Jones said at the end of Raiders Of The Lost Ark, just replace "Ark" for "recording".
Now I was pretty impressed with the "power" unleashed by the ark, especially when it melted those two evil dudes. Paul Freeman's exploding head was also quite the trick.
But really, Greg, is this material THAT powerful?
Well, then it should probably stay locked up and NOT played for convention go-ers in the first place. It's YOU - GREG BROOKS - that are placing the lives of conventioners at risk. What, do you have some sort of "God" complex?
Let me tell you something... when it comes to Queen, I AM GOD.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Micrówave wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]somedayoneday wrote: [/QUOTENAME]so there instantly exists the possibility that the recording could be used for the wrong ends.[/QUOTE]
This is somewhat similar to what Indiana Jones said at the end of Raiders Of The Lost Ark, just replace "Ark" for "recording".
Now I was pretty impressed with the "power" unleashed by the ark, especially when it melted those two evil dudes. Paul Freeman's exploding head was also quite the trick.
But really, Greg, is this material THAT powerful?
Well, then it should probably stay locked up and NOT played for convention go-ers in the first place. It's YOU - GREG BROOKS - that are placing the lives of conventioners at risk. What, do you have some sort of "God" complex?[/QUOTE]
In the great scheme of things, of course, it's not that important- but anyway, I've already stated my reasons for participating in this discussion. It's a shame if the recordings do have to stay locked up. Maybe now that's what will happen but I've no idea if the decision rests entirely with Greg.
This is somewhat similar to what Indiana Jones said at the end of Raiders Of The Lost Ark, just replace "Ark" for "recording".
Now I was pretty impressed with the "power" unleashed by the ark, especially when it melted those two evil dudes. Paul Freeman's exploding head was also quite the trick.
But really, Greg, is this material THAT powerful?
Well, then it should probably stay locked up and NOT played for convention go-ers in the first place. It's YOU - GREG BROOKS - that are placing the lives of conventioners at risk. What, do you have some sort of "God" complex?[/QUOTE]
In the great scheme of things, of course, it's not that important- but anyway, I've already stated my reasons for participating in this discussion. It's a shame if the recordings do have to stay locked up. Maybe now that's what will happen but I've no idea if the decision rests entirely with Greg.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Micrówave wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]somedayoneday wrote: [/QUOTENAME]so there instantly exists the possibility that the recording could be used for the wrong ends.[/QUOTE]
This is somewhat similar to what Indiana Jones said at the end of Raiders Of The Lost Ark, just replace "Ark" for "recording".
Now I was pretty impressed with the "power" unleashed by the ark, especially when it melted those two evil dudes. Paul Freeman's exploding head was also quite the trick.
But really, Greg, is this material THAT powerful?
Well, then it should probably stay locked up and NOT played for convention go-ers in the first place. It's YOU - GREG BROOKS - that are placing the lives of conventioners at risk. What, do you have some sort of "God" complex?[/QUOTE]
This is not fair. You are just trying to get us excited about the return of Indiana Jones to the movie theatre ... or ... is it the return of Greg to this thread? Anyway, Greg did study something spiritual for 16 years (he briefly mentioned this and then I think he never went into detail for us, so I have no idea what he meant by it). But I'm sure Brian took that into consideration before trusting him with such ... valuables.
This is somewhat similar to what Indiana Jones said at the end of Raiders Of The Lost Ark, just replace "Ark" for "recording".
Now I was pretty impressed with the "power" unleashed by the ark, especially when it melted those two evil dudes. Paul Freeman's exploding head was also quite the trick.
But really, Greg, is this material THAT powerful?
Well, then it should probably stay locked up and NOT played for convention go-ers in the first place. It's YOU - GREG BROOKS - that are placing the lives of conventioners at risk. What, do you have some sort of "God" complex?[/QUOTE]
This is not fair. You are just trying to get us excited about the return of Indiana Jones to the movie theatre ... or ... is it the return of Greg to this thread? Anyway, Greg did study something spiritual for 16 years (he briefly mentioned this and then I think he never went into detail for us, so I have no idea what he meant by it). But I'm sure Brian took that into consideration before trusting him with such ... valuables.
GREG
PLEASE RESPOND
MY COCK'S ON FIRE - FOR MORE DICK
PLEASE RESPOND
MY COCK'S ON FIRE - FOR MORE DICK
I also found CM's post very interesting and I agree with him 100%.
The fact that people record and share those carppy sounding convention recordings only shows we are still interested in that product, that releasing Box Set would find a customer, taht there is still few of us waiting for BBC sessions, dreaming about 70s gigs and so on... But you know... that may dry out, you know? The last really good release was Milton keynes- and that was an exception rather than a rule... We are patient, we are waiting, we are hungry, but... are we gonna wait forever? Queen at the moment is not even my favourite band- simply because there is NOTHING NEW for me here... Sure- I'm going to attend few gigs of the new tour just as I did in 2005. Sure I'd bought BBC sessions if they were released on the day of the release, but... I'm growing indifferent to all those re-releases, I'm not excited by them and every time I hear that sth big is coming up- I take it with a huge pinch of salt... I want to be surprised, I want to be proven wrong and I want to be excited AGAIN by this band, by the music they recorded few months ago or few years ago- by something new... Sorry, few toothbrushes or new 5.1 mix of God Save The Queen or fancy Dress Party at the convention or "new videos" on ANATO Anniversary DVD- this is not enough to excite me... We plead and plead, we are all dreaming about certain releases- and you well know what they are; if not Box Set than BBCs, if not BBC- than live gigs THAT WE DON'T KNOW... Good documentary... Man, there is so many things we've been asking for and waiting for YEARS... Are you surprised that when all we get is some copy&paste videos on ANATO DVD (which we already heard in 5.1 and i'm telling you- the first mix was BETTER!), Live Aid only a year after we bought 3 DVD set with the whole gig, 100 Bootlegs initative which is laughable (bad, lossy format, MANY msitakes and not even the best versions of certain gigs) and so on- that after that someone recorded few demos you played at the convention? And I'm talking about those demos few years ago- those that were eventually shared (and which anyway leaked in studio quality later on...). Here nobody heard a thing. Even you- the only proof you or Brian have that anything had been recorded is the fact that someone said sth. Brilliant...
Anyway... I'd be happy that some people are still so crazy about the music those four guys made that they even enjoy listening at home crappy recordings, with some chatter and coughing, with "property of QP" every few seconds... Man- that shows you that you still have a base which will buy anything you are going to put name Queen on... But for how long?
The fact that people record and share those carppy sounding convention recordings only shows we are still interested in that product, that releasing Box Set would find a customer, taht there is still few of us waiting for BBC sessions, dreaming about 70s gigs and so on... But you know... that may dry out, you know? The last really good release was Milton keynes- and that was an exception rather than a rule... We are patient, we are waiting, we are hungry, but... are we gonna wait forever? Queen at the moment is not even my favourite band- simply because there is NOTHING NEW for me here... Sure- I'm going to attend few gigs of the new tour just as I did in 2005. Sure I'd bought BBC sessions if they were released on the day of the release, but... I'm growing indifferent to all those re-releases, I'm not excited by them and every time I hear that sth big is coming up- I take it with a huge pinch of salt... I want to be surprised, I want to be proven wrong and I want to be excited AGAIN by this band, by the music they recorded few months ago or few years ago- by something new... Sorry, few toothbrushes or new 5.1 mix of God Save The Queen or fancy Dress Party at the convention or "new videos" on ANATO Anniversary DVD- this is not enough to excite me... We plead and plead, we are all dreaming about certain releases- and you well know what they are; if not Box Set than BBCs, if not BBC- than live gigs THAT WE DON'T KNOW... Good documentary... Man, there is so many things we've been asking for and waiting for YEARS... Are you surprised that when all we get is some copy&paste videos on ANATO DVD (which we already heard in 5.1 and i'm telling you- the first mix was BETTER!), Live Aid only a year after we bought 3 DVD set with the whole gig, 100 Bootlegs initative which is laughable (bad, lossy format, MANY msitakes and not even the best versions of certain gigs) and so on- that after that someone recorded few demos you played at the convention? And I'm talking about those demos few years ago- those that were eventually shared (and which anyway leaked in studio quality later on...). Here nobody heard a thing. Even you- the only proof you or Brian have that anything had been recorded is the fact that someone said sth. Brilliant...
Anyway... I'd be happy that some people are still so crazy about the music those four guys made that they even enjoy listening at home crappy recordings, with some chatter and coughing, with "property of QP" every few seconds... Man- that shows you that you still have a base which will buy anything you are going to put name Queen on... But for how long?
Guilty.
But will Greg respond to this thread BEFORE the release of Jones IV?
But will Greg respond to this thread BEFORE the release of Jones IV?