[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Queen Archivist wrote: [/QUOTENAME]We did seriously consider a long time idée fixe, but none of us knew what it was, so we went home instead! Was that wrong?[/QUOTE]
'An idea that dominates the mind; a fixed idea; an obsession' = release of something from the 70s which won't satisfy Queen fans anyway, IMHO.
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[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Erin wrote: [/QUOTENAME] And no, I don't own the toothbrush, people.[/QUOTE]
That's bad for your teeth, Erin... ;)
That's bad for your teeth, Erin... ;)
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Queen Archivist wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Zebonka12 said...
Isn't it all re-releases and compilations and toothbrushes, though?
Who would want all of that crap?
GB: NOT YOU, ZEBONKA, BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT A QUEEN FAN.
BUT REAL QUEEN FANS LOVE THIS STUFF - BECAUSE THEY LOVE QUEEN... THAT'S HOW THEY CAME TO BE ON THIS SITE WITH THEIR COMMON INTEREST.
YOU ARE STILL A DICK-HEAD I'M AFRAID. BUT DO NOT LOSE HEART, WE'RE NONE OF US PERFECT.[/QUOTE]
Well, now I really don't know what to say....
I suppose that I didn't understand you correctly, because what I understand is that you think that all people who doesn't care about tootbrushes, and similar products aren't a real Queen fans?
Well if that's the case, then I'm not a Queen fan, and really don't know why I spend so much money on all those CD and DVDs that I bought....
And to say a thing that many other says, release a DVDs with concerts from 70's, and for God's sake, give us a GVH3 so that we can have a complete collection of videos....
Isn't it all re-releases and compilations and toothbrushes, though?
Who would want all of that crap?
GB: NOT YOU, ZEBONKA, BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT A QUEEN FAN.
BUT REAL QUEEN FANS LOVE THIS STUFF - BECAUSE THEY LOVE QUEEN... THAT'S HOW THEY CAME TO BE ON THIS SITE WITH THEIR COMMON INTEREST.
YOU ARE STILL A DICK-HEAD I'M AFRAID. BUT DO NOT LOSE HEART, WE'RE NONE OF US PERFECT.[/QUOTE]
Well, now I really don't know what to say....
I suppose that I didn't understand you correctly, because what I understand is that you think that all people who doesn't care about tootbrushes, and similar products aren't a real Queen fans?
Well if that's the case, then I'm not a Queen fan, and really don't know why I spend so much money on all those CD and DVDs that I bought....
And to say a thing that many other says, release a DVDs with concerts from 70's, and for God's sake, give us a GVH3 so that we can have a complete collection of videos....
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Jjeroen wrote: It's like showing people a juicy steak.
You even let us smell the lucious smell of the steak.
Are you surprised that we all want to BITE?!
[/QUOTE]
A Bite?
A BITE??
I want the entire flippin' cow!!!
You even let us smell the lucious smell of the steak.
Are you surprised that we all want to BITE?!
[/QUOTE]
A Bite?
A BITE??
I want the entire flippin' cow!!!
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Queen Archivist wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Zebonka12 said...
Isn't it all re-releases and compilations and toothbrushes, though?
Who would want all of that crap?
GB: NOT YOU, ZEBONKA, BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT A QUEEN FAN.
BUT REAL QUEEN FANS LOVE THIS STUFF - BECAUSE THEY LOVE QUEEN... THAT'S HOW THEY CAME TO BE ON THIS SITE WITH THEIR COMMON INTEREST.
YOU ARE STILL A DICK-HEAD I'M AFRAID. BUT DO NOT LOSE HEART, WE'RE NONE OF US PERFECT.[/QUOTE]
I cant actually believe what I've just read! I think I am now beginning to understand whats been happening with QP over the last 10 years or so.
Isn't it all re-releases and compilations and toothbrushes, though?
Who would want all of that crap?
GB: NOT YOU, ZEBONKA, BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT A QUEEN FAN.
BUT REAL QUEEN FANS LOVE THIS STUFF - BECAUSE THEY LOVE QUEEN... THAT'S HOW THEY CAME TO BE ON THIS SITE WITH THEIR COMMON INTEREST.
YOU ARE STILL A DICK-HEAD I'M AFRAID. BUT DO NOT LOSE HEART, WE'RE NONE OF US PERFECT.[/QUOTE]
I cant actually believe what I've just read! I think I am now beginning to understand whats been happening with QP over the last 10 years or so.
Greg- it's a shame that you refer to the wealth of Queen music released in the form of 7", 12" singles and LPs. We KNOW this; we have all these too, but in the huge majority we're talking 20 - 30 years ago that these came out!!!
With the exception of the live LPs (2 or three over the last few years to complement the DVD and CD releases), the singles are OLD releases, but you talk as if these are exciting new stuff still coming out.
I think the point from this is that it is the CONTENT that people are moaning about, not specifically the format or volume of copies available - I could go out tomorrow and buy 500 copies of the new new WWRY/WATC foreign single release and then say that I've got loads of new Queen single releases, but it doesn't really compete with a CD of demos, a 70's DVD release etc...does it?
I KNOW that you don't have the say in what comes out, but hopefully you can see our point and that you won't keep arguing so adamantly that there is plenty of 'new' releases when it's all of old material just being rehashed?
Cheers
With the exception of the live LPs (2 or three over the last few years to complement the DVD and CD releases), the singles are OLD releases, but you talk as if these are exciting new stuff still coming out.
I think the point from this is that it is the CONTENT that people are moaning about, not specifically the format or volume of copies available - I could go out tomorrow and buy 500 copies of the new new WWRY/WATC foreign single release and then say that I've got loads of new Queen single releases, but it doesn't really compete with a CD of demos, a 70's DVD release etc...does it?
I KNOW that you don't have the say in what comes out, but hopefully you can see our point and that you won't keep arguing so adamantly that there is plenty of 'new' releases when it's all of old material just being rehashed?
Cheers
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Sir GH wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Micrówave wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Most likely to select "A":
Greg Brooks, Brian May, Sir GH, etc.[/QUOTE]
Elite grouping you've put me in there... I'm flattered. But put me down for one of D, please.
[/QUOTE]
Heck, I figured you already had All Of The Above!
Greg Brooks, Brian May, Sir GH, etc.[/QUOTE]
Elite grouping you've put me in there... I'm flattered. But put me down for one of D, please.
[/QUOTE]
Heck, I figured you already had All Of The Above!
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]cmsdrums wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Greg- it's a shame that you refer to the wealth of Queen music released in the form of 7", 12" singles and LPs. We KNOW this; we have all these too, but in the huge majority we're talking 20 - 30 years ago that these came out!!!
With the exception of the live LPs (2 or three over the last few years to complement the DVD and CD releases), the singles are OLD releases, but you talk as if these are exciting new stuff still coming out.
I think the point from this is that it is the CONTENT that people are moaning about, not specifically the format or volume of copies available - I could go out tomorrow and buy 500 copies of the new new WWRY/WATC foreign single release and then say that I've got loads of new Queen single releases, but it doesn't really compete with a CD of demos, a 70's DVD release etc...does it?
I KNOW that you don't have the say in what comes out, but hopefully you can see our point and that you won't keep arguing so adamantly that there is plenty of 'new' releases when it's all of old material just being rehashed?
Cheers[/QUOTE]
You could NOT have missed the point MORE if you tried. What you said has nothing to do with my main points. You think that I think 25 copies of the SAME product equates to LOTS of new Queen product. That is as wrong as it's possible to be.
Read my initial posting again, carefully, properly, and hopefully you'll realise that what you have stated misses the point completely.
Did you do that deliberately?!
With the exception of the live LPs (2 or three over the last few years to complement the DVD and CD releases), the singles are OLD releases, but you talk as if these are exciting new stuff still coming out.
I think the point from this is that it is the CONTENT that people are moaning about, not specifically the format or volume of copies available - I could go out tomorrow and buy 500 copies of the new new WWRY/WATC foreign single release and then say that I've got loads of new Queen single releases, but it doesn't really compete with a CD of demos, a 70's DVD release etc...does it?
I KNOW that you don't have the say in what comes out, but hopefully you can see our point and that you won't keep arguing so adamantly that there is plenty of 'new' releases when it's all of old material just being rehashed?
Cheers[/QUOTE]
You could NOT have missed the point MORE if you tried. What you said has nothing to do with my main points. You think that I think 25 copies of the SAME product equates to LOTS of new Queen product. That is as wrong as it's possible to be.
Read my initial posting again, carefully, properly, and hopefully you'll realise that what you have stated misses the point completely.
Did you do that deliberately?!
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Jamaleni wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Queen Archivist wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Zebonka12 said...
Isn't it all re-releases and compilations and toothbrushes, though?
Who would want all of that crap?
GB: NOT YOU, ZEBONKA, BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT A QUEEN FAN.
BUT REAL QUEEN FANS LOVE THIS STUFF - BECAUSE THEY LOVE QUEEN... THAT'S HOW THEY CAME TO BE ON THIS SITE WITH THEIR COMMON INTEREST.
YOU ARE STILL A DICK-HEAD I'M AFRAID. BUT DO NOT LOSE HEART, WE'RE NONE OF US PERFECT.[/QUOTE]
Well, now I really don't know what to say....
I suppose that I didn't understand you correctly, because what I understand is that you think that all people who doesn't care about tootbrushes, and similar products aren't a real Queen fans?
Well if that's the case, then I'm not a Queen fan, and really don't know why I spend so much money on all those CD and DVDs that I bought....
And to say a thing that many other says, release a DVDs with concerts from 70's, and for God's sake, give us a GVH3 so that we can have a complete collection of videos....[/QUOTE]
That is correct; you DID NOT understand me.
Isn't it all re-releases and compilations and toothbrushes, though?
Who would want all of that crap?
GB: NOT YOU, ZEBONKA, BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT A QUEEN FAN.
BUT REAL QUEEN FANS LOVE THIS STUFF - BECAUSE THEY LOVE QUEEN... THAT'S HOW THEY CAME TO BE ON THIS SITE WITH THEIR COMMON INTEREST.
YOU ARE STILL A DICK-HEAD I'M AFRAID. BUT DO NOT LOSE HEART, WE'RE NONE OF US PERFECT.[/QUOTE]
Well, now I really don't know what to say....
I suppose that I didn't understand you correctly, because what I understand is that you think that all people who doesn't care about tootbrushes, and similar products aren't a real Queen fans?
Well if that's the case, then I'm not a Queen fan, and really don't know why I spend so much money on all those CD and DVDs that I bought....
And to say a thing that many other says, release a DVDs with concerts from 70's, and for God's sake, give us a GVH3 so that we can have a complete collection of videos....[/QUOTE]
That is correct; you DID NOT understand me.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Micrówave wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Heck, I figured you already had All Of The Above![/QUOTE]
Nah, not at all. The live stuff is what I'm mainly interested in.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Queen Archivist wrote: [/QUOTENAME]BUT REAL QUEEN FANS LOVE THIS STUFF - BECAUSE THEY LOVE QUEEN... THAT'S HOW THEY CAME TO BE ON THIS SITE WITH THEIR COMMON INTEREST.[/QUOTE]
"Real fans" are the ones who date back to the 70s, who saw the band back then, and followed them until the day Freddie died, and beyond - for the music. And for those who are younger, the real fans are people who simply love the music and want to hear new music, even if it's a recording of a 30-year-old concert, regardless of quality. That is what the common interest is in - the music. Most of these people couldn't care less about memorabilia, let alone a catalogue of thousands of pieces of memorabilia, most of which they'll never own themselves. Sure, the book will make some fans happy, but we need to realistically look at the bigger picture.
Queen's career as a live band is not well-represented in music stores around the world. There are three superb 80s DVDs from Queen Productions, but the band's first ten years on stage are virtually unknown to the general public - the era that is most important to North American fans of the band, particularly. Let's note that the short career of Jimi Hendrix has produced four DVDs: Monterrey 67, Woodstock 69, Berkeley 70, and Isle of Wight 70 - not to mention five other audio live albums with mostly different material. The Queen vaults surely must contain material in equal or better quality to those Hendrix releases that were mostly recorded in the 60s. And then there is the Zeppelin DVD set, the Genesis boxes, fantastic Springsteen and Yes re-releases, etc. There is very little from Queen in comparison.
And finally, the presence of older Queen material on DVD will not diminish curiosity of or slow down the sales of the new QPR record. It will all come down to how well the new record is marketed.
Nah, not at all. The live stuff is what I'm mainly interested in.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Queen Archivist wrote: [/QUOTENAME]BUT REAL QUEEN FANS LOVE THIS STUFF - BECAUSE THEY LOVE QUEEN... THAT'S HOW THEY CAME TO BE ON THIS SITE WITH THEIR COMMON INTEREST.[/QUOTE]
"Real fans" are the ones who date back to the 70s, who saw the band back then, and followed them until the day Freddie died, and beyond - for the music. And for those who are younger, the real fans are people who simply love the music and want to hear new music, even if it's a recording of a 30-year-old concert, regardless of quality. That is what the common interest is in - the music. Most of these people couldn't care less about memorabilia, let alone a catalogue of thousands of pieces of memorabilia, most of which they'll never own themselves. Sure, the book will make some fans happy, but we need to realistically look at the bigger picture.
Queen's career as a live band is not well-represented in music stores around the world. There are three superb 80s DVDs from Queen Productions, but the band's first ten years on stage are virtually unknown to the general public - the era that is most important to North American fans of the band, particularly. Let's note that the short career of Jimi Hendrix has produced four DVDs: Monterrey 67, Woodstock 69, Berkeley 70, and Isle of Wight 70 - not to mention five other audio live albums with mostly different material. The Queen vaults surely must contain material in equal or better quality to those Hendrix releases that were mostly recorded in the 60s. And then there is the Zeppelin DVD set, the Genesis boxes, fantastic Springsteen and Yes re-releases, etc. There is very little from Queen in comparison.
And finally, the presence of older Queen material on DVD will not diminish curiosity of or slow down the sales of the new QPR record. It will all come down to how well the new record is marketed.
Greg, are you suffering from anxiety of some sort, you seem so angry and pugnacious. I recommend pills: prozac is standard, but now they have a new PRODUCT: wellbutrin, no side effects they say, so, yes, you will get an erection.
I am with the less PRODCUT more MUSIC side of the argument. I don't really need Queen condoms, I don;t use them, anyway. I want to be like Fred.
Back to the MUSIC. I understand that Brian wanted to be an astro-physicyst, so he measures time in billions of years. Well, I won't be here that long. Hence, any chance we can get Queen+Fred MUSIC in the next 20 years or so???
I am with the less PRODCUT more MUSIC side of the argument. I don't really need Queen condoms, I don;t use them, anyway. I want to be like Fred.
Back to the MUSIC. I understand that Brian wanted to be an astro-physicyst, so he measures time in billions of years. Well, I won't be here that long. Hence, any chance we can get Queen+Fred MUSIC in the next 20 years or so???
Little Queen knowledge, you don't know much yourself mate.
Because if you had any fucking idea, you would not be slating long time fans and new ones constantly with your fucking know it all and sarcastic comments.
As you are so pally with Dr. May and company why don't you get himself to come on this board and answer some questions about when or if we will ever see ANY UNRELEASED TRACKS.Will not happen.
I will post what i want on this board, and am entitled to my opinion. Anybdy else would laugh it off, if you read my post i was not slating you personally!
Because if you had any fucking idea, you would not be slating long time fans and new ones constantly with your fucking know it all and sarcastic comments.
As you are so pally with Dr. May and company why don't you get himself to come on this board and answer some questions about when or if we will ever see ANY UNRELEASED TRACKS.Will not happen.
I will post what i want on this board, and am entitled to my opinion. Anybdy else would laugh it off, if you read my post i was not slating you personally!
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]luthorn wrote: [/QUOTENAME]I am with the less PRODUCT more MUSIC side of the argument.[/QUOTE]Me too, FWLIW...
I can't understand Greg coming here and stirring things up to be honest. As he's an employee and not a director of QPL, he has zero say in what gets released. I do understand that as an employee he is certainly not going to go against the company line, which is good sense on his part. But please, Greg, don't patronize us with comments about all the great Queen releases. As you frequent this board enough to have your finger on the pulse on what you call "Moanzone", you know that all but the Stepford fans think that the last 5 to 10 years of Queen product has been shit. Nobody wants another repackaged Greatest Hits album, they want something of substance, which as others have pointed out is something from first album to about NOTW for a live release, or a decent box set.
I realize that to Jim Beach, Brian and Roger, Queen fans are now people who know the singles but nothing else in the catalogue, but fuck me, Queen used to be the consummate risk takers. Read Brian's radio interview on his site about Brighton Rock. and how daring it was. THAT was Queen. Opening their potential make or break album with a 2 plus minute guitar solo dead in the middle. Follow up subseuqent albums with operatic, gospel, and waltz tinged singles, then follow that up with the lead track after your biggest commercial album being virtually non-English, and the single having a bicycle bell interlude and having a slew of different time signatures. Queen were artists, and if you liked their music, you were going to have to come after them as they weren't going to court the mainstream. Now they're conservative busineesmen whose every decision is driven by maximum return on minimum investment. It's truly ironic that the musical is devoid for the most part of Queen's greatest musical moments. But then again, who wants to hear White Queen or Long Away when you can heat WWRY or Radio Ga Ga for the millinth time.
I realize that to Jim Beach, Brian and Roger, Queen fans are now people who know the singles but nothing else in the catalogue, but fuck me, Queen used to be the consummate risk takers. Read Brian's radio interview on his site about Brighton Rock. and how daring it was. THAT was Queen. Opening their potential make or break album with a 2 plus minute guitar solo dead in the middle. Follow up subseuqent albums with operatic, gospel, and waltz tinged singles, then follow that up with the lead track after your biggest commercial album being virtually non-English, and the single having a bicycle bell interlude and having a slew of different time signatures. Queen were artists, and if you liked their music, you were going to have to come after them as they weren't going to court the mainstream. Now they're conservative busineesmen whose every decision is driven by maximum return on minimum investment. It's truly ironic that the musical is devoid for the most part of Queen's greatest musical moments. But then again, who wants to hear White Queen or Long Away when you can heat WWRY or Radio Ga Ga for the millinth time.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Sir GH
wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Micrówave wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Heck, I figured you already had All Of The Above![/QUOTE] Nah, not at all. The live stuff is what I'm mainly interested in. [QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Queen Archivist wrote: [/QUOTENAME]BUT REAL QUEEN FANS LOVE THIS STUFF - BECAUSE THEY LOVE QUEEN... THAT'S HOW THEY CAME TO BE ON THIS SITE WITH THEIR COMMON INTEREST.[/QUOTE] "Real fans" are the ones who date back to the 70s, who saw the band back then, and followed them until the day Freddie died, and beyond - for the music. And for those who are younger, the real fans are people who simply love the music and want to hear new music, even if it's a recording of a 30-year-old concert, regardless of quality. That is what the common interest is in - the music. Most of these people couldn't care less about memorabilia, let alone a catalogue of thousands of pieces of memorabilia, most of which they'll never own themselves. Sure, the book will make some fans happy, but we need to realistically look at the bigger picture. Queen's career as a live band is not well-represented in music stores around the world. There are three superb 80s DVDs from Queen Productions, but the band's first ten years on stage are virtually unknown to the general public - the era that is most important to North American fans of the band, particularly. Let's note that the short career of Jimi Hendrix has produced four DVDs: Monterrey 67, Woodstock 69, Berkeley 70, and Isle of Wight 70 - not to mention five other audio live albums with mostly different material. The Queen vaults surely must contain material in equal or better quality to those Hendrix releases that were mostly recorded in the 60s. And then there is the Zeppelin DVD set, the Genesis boxes, fantastic Springsteen and Yes re-releases, etc. There is very little from Queen in comparison. And finally, the presence of older Queen material on DVD will not diminish curiosity of or slow down the sales of the new QPR record. It will all come down to how well the new record is marketed. [/QUOTE]I completely agree with you and Jimi Hendrix is indeed a very good example. Even Jeff Buckley who had only 1 album during his life has better live representation. Live at Olympia is what he considered his best show. Live at sin-e is a fantastic 2 disc set with lots of great and unique stuff and then there's a DVD from chicago and another live album. If you compare that with the seventies output by Queen you'll see it's a huge difference:-). They toured during about 8 years to promote all these seventies albums and all we have is Live Killers. that's not a good representation of Queen in the seventies. And that's truly a pity. Maybe there's not much in the archive from those days but there must be something worthy of a release from the period 73-78. Imagine this: a set with 4 shows from the seventies!(shows that are not available on bootleg). I think many Queen and music fans alike will truly appreciate that. When I go to other fora(with people that are not specifically Queen fans) I always notice that people prefer the earlier stuff and then I want to tell them songs like White man, liar, it's late, if you can't beat them, ogre battle, white queen,... sounded great on stage but there's no product I can advise them to buy( simply because there's nothing available on the market).
wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Micrówave wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Heck, I figured you already had All Of The Above![/QUOTE] Nah, not at all. The live stuff is what I'm mainly interested in. [QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Queen Archivist wrote: [/QUOTENAME]BUT REAL QUEEN FANS LOVE THIS STUFF - BECAUSE THEY LOVE QUEEN... THAT'S HOW THEY CAME TO BE ON THIS SITE WITH THEIR COMMON INTEREST.[/QUOTE] "Real fans" are the ones who date back to the 70s, who saw the band back then, and followed them until the day Freddie died, and beyond - for the music. And for those who are younger, the real fans are people who simply love the music and want to hear new music, even if it's a recording of a 30-year-old concert, regardless of quality. That is what the common interest is in - the music. Most of these people couldn't care less about memorabilia, let alone a catalogue of thousands of pieces of memorabilia, most of which they'll never own themselves. Sure, the book will make some fans happy, but we need to realistically look at the bigger picture. Queen's career as a live band is not well-represented in music stores around the world. There are three superb 80s DVDs from Queen Productions, but the band's first ten years on stage are virtually unknown to the general public - the era that is most important to North American fans of the band, particularly. Let's note that the short career of Jimi Hendrix has produced four DVDs: Monterrey 67, Woodstock 69, Berkeley 70, and Isle of Wight 70 - not to mention five other audio live albums with mostly different material. The Queen vaults surely must contain material in equal or better quality to those Hendrix releases that were mostly recorded in the 60s. And then there is the Zeppelin DVD set, the Genesis boxes, fantastic Springsteen and Yes re-releases, etc. There is very little from Queen in comparison. And finally, the presence of older Queen material on DVD will not diminish curiosity of or slow down the sales of the new QPR record. It will all come down to how well the new record is marketed. [/QUOTE]I completely agree with you and Jimi Hendrix is indeed a very good example. Even Jeff Buckley who had only 1 album during his life has better live representation. Live at Olympia is what he considered his best show. Live at sin-e is a fantastic 2 disc set with lots of great and unique stuff and then there's a DVD from chicago and another live album. If you compare that with the seventies output by Queen you'll see it's a huge difference:-). They toured during about 8 years to promote all these seventies albums and all we have is Live Killers. that's not a good representation of Queen in the seventies. And that's truly a pity. Maybe there's not much in the archive from those days but there must be something worthy of a release from the period 73-78. Imagine this: a set with 4 shows from the seventies!(shows that are not available on bootleg). I think many Queen and music fans alike will truly appreciate that. When I go to other fora(with people that are not specifically Queen fans) I always notice that people prefer the earlier stuff and then I want to tell them songs like White man, liar, it's late, if you can't beat them, ogre battle, white queen,... sounded great on stage but there's no product I can advise them to buy( simply because there's nothing available on the market).