I agree that there are lots of great stuff out there. And re-releasing items is ok when you get something extra or different, such as the mini vinyls. I thought that Rock Montreal was good but only because I got it on Bluray, which is great. But there were bits missing which were on the vinyl and cd I also got, so apart from the hd picture and sound, nothing new. Except live aid which wasn't in hd and wasn't even as good a picture quality as the live aid box set. Anyway I will always buy new Queen stuff(not QPR), but we would like some new stuff please, like Greatest Video Hits 3 without Paul Rodgers stuff, and preferrably before I retire in 45 years!
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[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]dsmeer wrote: [/QUOTENAME]THIS band is not QUEEN (I guess you are not supprised) , but it is METALLICA.
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They had maybe 4 really good albums and a "load" of crap the rest of the way.
Hardly the same calibur.
And Men Without Hats offer a fan club, downloads, etc... so we can dance if we want to, we can leave your friends behind.
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They had maybe 4 really good albums and a "load" of crap the rest of the way.
Hardly the same calibur.
And Men Without Hats offer a fan club, downloads, etc... so we can dance if we want to, we can leave your friends behind.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]gnomo wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]luthorn wrote: [/QUOTENAME]I am with the less PRODUCT more MUSIC side of the argument.[/QUOTE]Me too, FWLIW...[/QUOTE]
I don't think anyone is on the less music side. ;-) I've given up hoping for 70's releases and archive box sets. If it happens, I will be ecstatic. If it doesn't, I won't lose sleep.
I don't think anyone is on the less music side. ;-) I've given up hoping for 70's releases and archive box sets. If it happens, I will be ecstatic. If it doesn't, I won't lose sleep.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Micrówave wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]dsmeer wrote: [/QUOTENAME]THIS band is not QUEEN (I guess you are not supprised) , but it is METALLICA.
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They had maybe 4 really good albums and a "load" of crap the rest of the way.
Hardly the same calibur.
And Men Without Hats offer a fan club, downloads, etc... so we can dance if we want to, we can leave your friends behind.[/QUOTE]
It was just to show our friend Greg that there are bands that sell diverent concerts etc.
I never said that Tallica is better then Queen, and every artist makes a crap album during their carreer.
BTW nice to discus this topic with Greg, always starting a discussion and then leaving.
I'll stop writing now and rush to the local supermarket to get a bottle of the new Queen shapoo
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They had maybe 4 really good albums and a "load" of crap the rest of the way.
Hardly the same calibur.
And Men Without Hats offer a fan club, downloads, etc... so we can dance if we want to, we can leave your friends behind.[/QUOTE]
It was just to show our friend Greg that there are bands that sell diverent concerts etc.
I never said that Tallica is better then Queen, and every artist makes a crap album during their carreer.
BTW nice to discus this topic with Greg, always starting a discussion and then leaving.
I'll stop writing now and rush to the local supermarket to get a bottle of the new Queen shapoo
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]DARREN1977 wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Little Queen knowledge, you don't know much yourself mate.
Because if you had any fucking idea, you would not be slating long time fans and new ones constantly with your fucking know it all and sarcastic comments.
As you are so pally with Dr. May and company why don't you get himself to come on this board and answer some questions about when or if we will ever see ANY UNRELEASED TRACKS.Will not happen.
I will post what i want on this board, and am entitled to my opinion. Anybdy else would laugh it off, if you read my post i was not slating you personally![/QUOTE]
Sure, no doubt. I'm not interested in Queen lipstick or a special edition bathrobe. I'm sure the unused condom collection is huge in the PRODUCT section.
All I want is more guitar, some vocals and drums. It does not have to be in 5.1 stereo, super, duper, hyper state. I just want to hear it. I was in the 7th heaven when Live at the Bowl came out. More of that music please.
However, unlike the universe, my time is finite, so I'd prefer to listen to it all in this life span. I hope Dr. May will understand. He's all about the music, anyway.
Because if you had any fucking idea, you would not be slating long time fans and new ones constantly with your fucking know it all and sarcastic comments.
As you are so pally with Dr. May and company why don't you get himself to come on this board and answer some questions about when or if we will ever see ANY UNRELEASED TRACKS.Will not happen.
I will post what i want on this board, and am entitled to my opinion. Anybdy else would laugh it off, if you read my post i was not slating you personally![/QUOTE]
Sure, no doubt. I'm not interested in Queen lipstick or a special edition bathrobe. I'm sure the unused condom collection is huge in the PRODUCT section.
All I want is more guitar, some vocals and drums. It does not have to be in 5.1 stereo, super, duper, hyper state. I just want to hear it. I was in the 7th heaven when Live at the Bowl came out. More of that music please.
However, unlike the universe, my time is finite, so I'd prefer to listen to it all in this life span. I hope Dr. May will understand. He's all about the music, anyway.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]luthorn wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]DARREN1977 wrote: [/QUOTENAME]
All I want is more guitar, some vocals and drums. [/QUOTE]
Just to warn you it'll sound a bit crap without bass guitar!! :-)
All I want is more guitar, some vocals and drums. [/QUOTE]
Just to warn you it'll sound a bit crap without bass guitar!! :-)
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]forever wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Except live aid which wasn't in hd and wasn't even as good a picture quality as the live aid box set.[/QUOTE]
This is because QPL use in-house amateurs who don't actually know what they're doing - namely Justin "Jack of all trades, master of none" Shirley Smith. When they start employing professionals we'll see some quality product. Until then we'll have to put up with muddy sounding mixes and videos that look like they've had the top layer of image scraped off (due to poor attempts at trying to clean up the image) and the aspect ratio ruined.
This is because QPL use in-house amateurs who don't actually know what they're doing - namely Justin "Jack of all trades, master of none" Shirley Smith. When they start employing professionals we'll see some quality product. Until then we'll have to put up with muddy sounding mixes and videos that look like they've had the top layer of image scraped off (due to poor attempts at trying to clean up the image) and the aspect ratio ruined.
I just don't agree with the criticisms of the Rock Montreal release.
It was hugely improved. Both on DVD and Blu-Ray. We have a Blu-Ray player here at school, only one though, sadly, that students contributed each one to buy, and we love it. I brought Rock Montreal and, it's serious, people got simply freaked out. People who never enjoyed Queen or didn't know Queen began to really enjoy it because the sheer power of the audio, the quality of the image and the amazing performance are absolutely irresistible.
It was a great move by Brian, I guess, releasing this one in such good quality. It's beautiful, beautiful to watch and listen to.
There are some Queen fans here now. Just a few, but, hey, that's great! And they had been deeply impressed by the concert.
So...I mean, it was a good move.
I disagree with people who say that it was "just another re-release of the montreal gig". I mean, the guys did a very good work on it and I did have the previous version and the difference in quality between them is not just significant, it's HUGE, it's another concert alltogether, and it DOES MATTER to youngsters, that's for sure, because we have grown up accostumed to other kind of technology and we expect things like these.
And, of course, it's not only youngsters. Long-term Queen fans I know also got very enthusiastic about it, it was a whole new experience for them watching the concert in that quality.
Sorry, but people do care about it. They care whether the image is good, the sound is impressive, and so on. They care.
I mean, I LOVE HAMMY '79, It's my favorite Queen concert, I wished I had every single info and version of it available out there, and I'd obviouslly find it great if the guys decided to release it. But even though the concert is great, guys, if in the end of the day the sound and video quality are not that sound, it doesn't appeal to young or simply new audiences.
I have been learning this throughout the last years with releases by many bands.
I think it's absolutely OK to release Hammersmith '79, but I guess that the guys should have in mind that, in doing so, they are appealing to an already well-established Queen fan base. Even so, if it's not improved and the comments are not helpful or interesting, people won't buy it - notice will spread that it's better to stick to the unofficial.
So, I'd love to see it released, but just like Rock Montreal: comments throughout - and comments about Hammersmith 79 would be great! - great sound and great image, and so on.
Freddie, by the way, is just...yummmmmm....very, I mean, attractive on this concert.
[yara fainting...]
It was hugely improved. Both on DVD and Blu-Ray. We have a Blu-Ray player here at school, only one though, sadly, that students contributed each one to buy, and we love it. I brought Rock Montreal and, it's serious, people got simply freaked out. People who never enjoyed Queen or didn't know Queen began to really enjoy it because the sheer power of the audio, the quality of the image and the amazing performance are absolutely irresistible.
It was a great move by Brian, I guess, releasing this one in such good quality. It's beautiful, beautiful to watch and listen to.
There are some Queen fans here now. Just a few, but, hey, that's great! And they had been deeply impressed by the concert.
So...I mean, it was a good move.
I disagree with people who say that it was "just another re-release of the montreal gig". I mean, the guys did a very good work on it and I did have the previous version and the difference in quality between them is not just significant, it's HUGE, it's another concert alltogether, and it DOES MATTER to youngsters, that's for sure, because we have grown up accostumed to other kind of technology and we expect things like these.
And, of course, it's not only youngsters. Long-term Queen fans I know also got very enthusiastic about it, it was a whole new experience for them watching the concert in that quality.
Sorry, but people do care about it. They care whether the image is good, the sound is impressive, and so on. They care.
I mean, I LOVE HAMMY '79, It's my favorite Queen concert, I wished I had every single info and version of it available out there, and I'd obviouslly find it great if the guys decided to release it. But even though the concert is great, guys, if in the end of the day the sound and video quality are not that sound, it doesn't appeal to young or simply new audiences.
I have been learning this throughout the last years with releases by many bands.
I think it's absolutely OK to release Hammersmith '79, but I guess that the guys should have in mind that, in doing so, they are appealing to an already well-established Queen fan base. Even so, if it's not improved and the comments are not helpful or interesting, people won't buy it - notice will spread that it's better to stick to the unofficial.
So, I'd love to see it released, but just like Rock Montreal: comments throughout - and comments about Hammersmith 79 would be great! - great sound and great image, and so on.
Freddie, by the way, is just...yummmmmm....very, I mean, attractive on this concert.
[yara fainting...]
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Yara wrote: [/QUOTENAME]But even though the concert is great, guys, if in the end of the day the sound and video quality are not that sound, it doesn't appeal to young or simply new audiences.[/QUOTE]
I just have to disagree with this statement. If the content means absolutely nothing in comparison with the picture quality, I might as well agree with Greg and start collecting toothbrushes.
People simply don't expect "perfect" picture quality. We don't expect black and white movies to be coloured just to appeal to the youngest audience. We don't expect all the video material from the late 70's / early 80's to be thrown away just because it has a "horrible" picture quality (a la Another One Bites The Dust). The majority of the potential buyers can still remember that there is nothing you can do about it, and have learned to live with it.
The majority of potential buyers are still aware of the limitations of the original technology, and can accept them. In 10 years time things will be a lot different, and that's why it would be better to relese the "inferior" material right now.
ost importantly, I have to believe that people are still buying music videos for the combination of picture and sound, not just for one or the other the other. Again, that might change with the "I-pod generation", but they won't be the target audience for another ten or twenty years!
I just have to disagree with this statement. If the content means absolutely nothing in comparison with the picture quality, I might as well agree with Greg and start collecting toothbrushes.
People simply don't expect "perfect" picture quality. We don't expect black and white movies to be coloured just to appeal to the youngest audience. We don't expect all the video material from the late 70's / early 80's to be thrown away just because it has a "horrible" picture quality (a la Another One Bites The Dust). The majority of the potential buyers can still remember that there is nothing you can do about it, and have learned to live with it.
The majority of potential buyers are still aware of the limitations of the original technology, and can accept them. In 10 years time things will be a lot different, and that's why it would be better to relese the "inferior" material right now.
ost importantly, I have to believe that people are still buying music videos for the combination of picture and sound, not just for one or the other the other. Again, that might change with the "I-pod generation", but they won't be the target audience for another ten or twenty years!
Just finished watching the Beatles Anthology. 5 DVDs. What is it, 10 hours, 11??
I just want to hand the thing to Queen and say "HERE. DO THIS. DO SOMETHING LIKE THIS".
Couldn't be any more obvious what they should do. There really isn't any excuse; 'oh, it's hard work, we can't just pull it out of thin air'.
No shit. Took years to make the Beatles one, so get cracking before I fucking die, for fucks sake.
I just want to hand the thing to Queen and say "HERE. DO THIS. DO SOMETHING LIKE THIS".
Couldn't be any more obvious what they should do. There really isn't any excuse; 'oh, it's hard work, we can't just pull it out of thin air'.
No shit. Took years to make the Beatles one, so get cracking before I fucking die, for fucks sake.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Erin wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]gnomo wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]luthorn wrote: [/QUOTENAME]I am with the less PRODUCT more MUSIC side of the argument.[/QUOTE]Me too, FWLIW...[/QUOTE]I don't think anyone is on the less music side.[/QUOTE]... IMVHO one at least seems to be slightly leaning towards that side - or at least not to be too aware of "sides" ... :-P
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Queen Archivist wrote: [/QUOTENAME]I never ever PROMISE anything. I merely hint or suggest and, usually to QZ's great frustration, I always then cover myself by saying there are no guarantees of this
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So everything you say is just a complete waste of time. Well, thanks for finally owning up to that Greg, most of us realized this by now.
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So everything you say is just a complete waste of time. Well, thanks for finally owning up to that Greg, most of us realized this by now.
Jaja...
Yet another valuable discussion.
Yet another valuable discussion.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Tero wrote: [/QUOTENAME]
People simply don't expect "perfect" picture quality. We don't expect black and white movies to be coloured just to appeal to the youngest audience. We don't expect all the video material from the late 70's / early 80's to be thrown away just because it has a "horrible" picture quality (a la Another One Bites The Dust). The majority of the potential buyers can still remember that there is nothing you can do about it, and have learned to live with it.
The majority of potential buyers are still aware of the limitations of the original technology, and can accept them. In 10 years time things will be a lot different, and that's why it would be better to relese the "inferior" material right now.
ost importantly, I have to believe that people are still buying music videos for the combination of picture and sound, not just for one or the other the other. Again, that might change with the "I-pod generation", but they won't be the target audience for another ten or twenty years![/QUOTE]
Great post. I've said this before: people don't throw out their old home videos because the picture quality isn't as good as today. And Queen Productions (cash only please, no refunds) would do well to take heed of your last point.
People simply don't expect "perfect" picture quality. We don't expect black and white movies to be coloured just to appeal to the youngest audience. We don't expect all the video material from the late 70's / early 80's to be thrown away just because it has a "horrible" picture quality (a la Another One Bites The Dust). The majority of the potential buyers can still remember that there is nothing you can do about it, and have learned to live with it.
The majority of potential buyers are still aware of the limitations of the original technology, and can accept them. In 10 years time things will be a lot different, and that's why it would be better to relese the "inferior" material right now.
ost importantly, I have to believe that people are still buying music videos for the combination of picture and sound, not just for one or the other the other. Again, that might change with the "I-pod generation", but they won't be the target audience for another ten or twenty years![/QUOTE]
Great post. I've said this before: people don't throw out their old home videos because the picture quality isn't as good as today. And Queen Productions (cash only please, no refunds) would do well to take heed of your last point.
Holly, re:
>>>Great post. I've said this before: people don't throw out their old home videos because the picture quality isn't as good as today. And Queen Productions (cash only please, no refunds) would do well to take heed of your last point.
Absolutely, and, the most important thing they need to remember is, as time goes speeding by, the numbers of people that actually give a shit about the "original" band will drop as people die. The target audience of collectors and those interested enough to buy rarities sets and DVDs of historic shows is dwindling - it amazez me how they can;t see this and get stuff to market that is of interest to these people whilst they are still here to buy it.
Sure, there's always a market for the tat like toothbrushes, t-shirts and flimsy jewelery - it's the 80/20 piece around flooding the market that will always generate sales. You're less likely to worry about spending £5 on something than you are £50 and QPL need to attack that market. But, they seem to be incredibly blinkered as to what it is they will allow people to purchase.
On one hand they tell us that quality control determines that certain archive material can not or will not be released, whilst on the other, they flood the market with trinkets and tat with a low price point.
Greg, it's quality and not quantity that people want.
>>>Great post. I've said this before: people don't throw out their old home videos because the picture quality isn't as good as today. And Queen Productions (cash only please, no refunds) would do well to take heed of your last point.
Absolutely, and, the most important thing they need to remember is, as time goes speeding by, the numbers of people that actually give a shit about the "original" band will drop as people die. The target audience of collectors and those interested enough to buy rarities sets and DVDs of historic shows is dwindling - it amazez me how they can;t see this and get stuff to market that is of interest to these people whilst they are still here to buy it.
Sure, there's always a market for the tat like toothbrushes, t-shirts and flimsy jewelery - it's the 80/20 piece around flooding the market that will always generate sales. You're less likely to worry about spending £5 on something than you are £50 and QPL need to attack that market. But, they seem to be incredibly blinkered as to what it is they will allow people to purchase.
On one hand they tell us that quality control determines that certain archive material can not or will not be released, whilst on the other, they flood the market with trinkets and tat with a low price point.
Greg, it's quality and not quantity that people want.