[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Microwave wrote: [/QUOTENAME]So Brian, Roger, and Paul should write liner notes FOR PEOPLE WHO WILL NOT BUY THE ALBUM.[/QUOTE]
This isn't actually about a liner note, you know?
It's about the majority of page one on the latest press release which is posted on all the Queen message boards and websites.
I'd say the message is being announced to everyone, regardless of whether they're buying the album or not.
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I have emailed brian to tell him that his diabolical plan has worked and that his gesture has, according to tero, saved Brian and Roger from losing literally dozens of sales of the future rerelease of Live Magic. I expect he will go out and buy another mansion to celebrate.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Holly2003 wrote: [/QUOTENAME]
[a wonderful piece of sarcasm][/QUOTE]
Did you read the quotes of what I have ACTUALLY written in this topic?
Has there been that major shift in the number of people I say this dedication is aimed at?
[a wonderful piece of sarcasm][/QUOTE]
Did you read the quotes of what I have ACTUALLY written in this topic?
Has there been that major shift in the number of people I say this dedication is aimed at?
"literally dozens" good one..:)
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Tero wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Holly2003 wrote: [/QUOTENAME]
[a wonderful piece of sarcasm][/QUOTE]
Did you read the quotes of what I have ACTUALLY written in this topic?
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You mean when you said "Even the slightest gesture can mean the difference of selling dozens of records in the future, and it's a move any business CAN'T afford to ignore." I'm sure Brian's devious mind has therefore saved him literally dozens of pounds in future sales. Who knows, with this future wealth now guaranteed by his disingenuis tribute to fred, he may now celebrate by going to the cinema. By himself.
[a wonderful piece of sarcasm][/QUOTE]
Did you read the quotes of what I have ACTUALLY written in this topic?
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You mean when you said "Even the slightest gesture can mean the difference of selling dozens of records in the future, and it's a move any business CAN'T afford to ignore." I'm sure Brian's devious mind has therefore saved him literally dozens of pounds in future sales. Who knows, with this future wealth now guaranteed by his disingenuis tribute to fred, he may now celebrate by going to the cinema. By himself.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Holly2003 wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Tero wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Holly2003 wrote: [/QUOTENAME]
[a wonderful piece of sarcasm][/QUOTE]
Did you read the quotes of what I have ACTUALLY written in this topic?
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You mean when you said "Even the slightest gesture can mean the difference of selling dozens of records in the future, and it's a move any business CAN'T afford to ignore." I'm sure Brian's devious mind has therefore saved him literally dozens of pounds in future sales. Who knows, with this future wealth now guaranteed by his disingenuis tribute to fred, he may now celebrate by going to the cinema. By himself.[/QUOTE]
That's a VERY conservative estimate, but the general principle is still the same:
With those sales increases a one sentence dedication which takes about 10 seconds to write would bring them the amounts of money regular people earn in a day (25 buyers x 10 future releases x £ 0.3 each equals to £75).
"I'm claiming that Brian and Roger have chosen to use the Queen name for own their personal gain, and subsequently made a big deal about dedicating this album to Freddie in an effort to appease that segment of the Queen fans who don't like the two of them using the Queen name."
"Yeah, they will continue to buy the products unless they get really pised of at the remains of the band.
If they would keep on releasing quality products of the original band, it wouldn't be an issue at all. However if they keep re-releasing the same material over and over again, they are going to have to stay on the good side of every possible fan."
Like many people around here like to point, record business isn't what it used to be. Physical albums don't sell as much as they used to, because most people have already upgraded their collection from vinyl to cd.
"Old" artists rely on their old fans to buy special editions, remasters, and other repackagings of their material, and the LAST thing any band such as Queen (with an impressive back catalogue and inferior current output) wants to do is to alienate the old fans. That would be commercial suicide.
So yes, damn right they are pulling every card out of their sleeve to keep up the dwindling record sales, and that means even putting up unemotional dedications.
Now, unless you or anybody else has a genuinely new point to make, I'm done with this discussion.
[a wonderful piece of sarcasm][/QUOTE]
Did you read the quotes of what I have ACTUALLY written in this topic?
[/QUOTE]
You mean when you said "Even the slightest gesture can mean the difference of selling dozens of records in the future, and it's a move any business CAN'T afford to ignore." I'm sure Brian's devious mind has therefore saved him literally dozens of pounds in future sales. Who knows, with this future wealth now guaranteed by his disingenuis tribute to fred, he may now celebrate by going to the cinema. By himself.[/QUOTE]
That's a VERY conservative estimate, but the general principle is still the same:
With those sales increases a one sentence dedication which takes about 10 seconds to write would bring them the amounts of money regular people earn in a day (25 buyers x 10 future releases x £ 0.3 each equals to £75).
"I'm claiming that Brian and Roger have chosen to use the Queen name for own their personal gain, and subsequently made a big deal about dedicating this album to Freddie in an effort to appease that segment of the Queen fans who don't like the two of them using the Queen name."
"Yeah, they will continue to buy the products unless they get really pised of at the remains of the band.
If they would keep on releasing quality products of the original band, it wouldn't be an issue at all. However if they keep re-releasing the same material over and over again, they are going to have to stay on the good side of every possible fan."
Like many people around here like to point, record business isn't what it used to be. Physical albums don't sell as much as they used to, because most people have already upgraded their collection from vinyl to cd.
"Old" artists rely on their old fans to buy special editions, remasters, and other repackagings of their material, and the LAST thing any band such as Queen (with an impressive back catalogue and inferior current output) wants to do is to alienate the old fans. That would be commercial suicide.
So yes, damn right they are pulling every card out of their sleeve to keep up the dwindling record sales, and that means even putting up unemotional dedications.
Now, unless you or anybody else has a genuinely new point to make, I'm done with this discussion.
Surely if Brian is as devious as you say he would've figured out that fans like yourself would see through his transparently fake dedication to Freddie and therefore not buy future products ... or at least only buy as many as they had planned to if there were no dedication.
Such a diabolical mastermind would therefore realise that he would lose as many sales as gain. However, MAYBE that's just what he expects us to think, and he may be playing some kind of extremly intricate double or even triple bluff.
In that case, the wording of the dedication becomes extremely important. Adding a few more bits of praise for Freddie could exponentially increase future sales. maybe even into the hundreds of pounds, and Brian could then afford to take Anita to the cinema with him to see Batman, or maybe even Wall-E. However, if he knows that people such as tero would see through that then it makes sense that instead of a dedication Brian would actually have dismissed Fred as only a minor figure in Queen and that, in fact, he, Dr. Brian May was actually the most important member of the band. And that explains why there are so many Brian may songs on the tour. And it also explains why the credits "Mercury/May" will be changed to "DR.BRIAN.MAY/mercury" on all future releases. However, Brian knows that fans who are opposed to Q+PR might not like that and therefore THAT'S why Barry Bulsara is innocent of the murder and, ladies and gentlemen, I can reveal to you now this bombshell, BRIAN MAY KILLED JILL DANDO and buried her body under a big W. A big W...
It all makes sense now.
Such a diabolical mastermind would therefore realise that he would lose as many sales as gain. However, MAYBE that's just what he expects us to think, and he may be playing some kind of extremly intricate double or even triple bluff.
In that case, the wording of the dedication becomes extremely important. Adding a few more bits of praise for Freddie could exponentially increase future sales. maybe even into the hundreds of pounds, and Brian could then afford to take Anita to the cinema with him to see Batman, or maybe even Wall-E. However, if he knows that people such as tero would see through that then it makes sense that instead of a dedication Brian would actually have dismissed Fred as only a minor figure in Queen and that, in fact, he, Dr. Brian May was actually the most important member of the band. And that explains why there are so many Brian may songs on the tour. And it also explains why the credits "Mercury/May" will be changed to "DR.BRIAN.MAY/mercury" on all future releases. However, Brian knows that fans who are opposed to Q+PR might not like that and therefore THAT'S why Barry Bulsara is innocent of the murder and, ladies and gentlemen, I can reveal to you now this bombshell, BRIAN MAY KILLED JILL DANDO and buried her body under a big W. A big W...
It all makes sense now.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Tero wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Microwave wrote: [/QUOTENAME]So Brian, Roger, and Paul should write liner notes FOR PEOPLE WHO WILL NOT BUY THE ALBUM.[/QUOTE]
This isn't actually about a liner note, you know?
It's about the majority of page one on the latest press release which is posted on all the Queen message boards and websites.
I'd say the message is being announced to everyone, regardless of whether they're buying the album or not.[/QUOTE]
You didn't answer my question. Did you look at the three points above? Waiting for you to give an example of this happening with some other band in the past.
And yes, it is a liner note, nothing less, nothing more. Unless you can tell me (without looking) who Sheer Heart Attack was dedicated to? Or how about Thriller? It sold oodles more copies than any Queen album, maybe all of them! Who was Thriller dedicated to? Tito and Jermaine? No one remembers albums for their dedications.
This isn't actually about a liner note, you know?
It's about the majority of page one on the latest press release which is posted on all the Queen message boards and websites.
I'd say the message is being announced to everyone, regardless of whether they're buying the album or not.[/QUOTE]
You didn't answer my question. Did you look at the three points above? Waiting for you to give an example of this happening with some other band in the past.
And yes, it is a liner note, nothing less, nothing more. Unless you can tell me (without looking) who Sheer Heart Attack was dedicated to? Or how about Thriller? It sold oodles more copies than any Queen album, maybe all of them! Who was Thriller dedicated to? Tito and Jermaine? No one remembers albums for their dedications.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Microwave wrote: [/QUOTENAME] - [/QUOTE]
I promised I wouldn't reply to this topic again, but you have changed my mind for this one time... Read this very carefully because I'm not going to repeat it.
I don't think I've ever resorted to personal insults on this message board, but you truly are worthy of that "honour".
You are an IDIOT who has deliberately and repeatedly ignored everything I wrote and instead claimed I have written something completely different.
Even when I gave you direct quotes of my earlier posts, you claimed I said otherwise. I would call you a RETARD but that would be an insult towards the mentally handicapped people.
I have more respect towards stepford fans who will unconditionally love everything that comes out with a Queen label, than low-life pondscum like you... At least they would be trying to discuss something with me and referring to my points instead of just making everything up inside their heads.
I hope you don't think I'm angry at you, or that your pointless replies would have any bearing on my future posts on this message board. I just wanted to make it ABSOLUTELY clear why you aren't worth talking to.
I promised I wouldn't reply to this topic again, but you have changed my mind for this one time... Read this very carefully because I'm not going to repeat it.
I don't think I've ever resorted to personal insults on this message board, but you truly are worthy of that "honour".
You are an IDIOT who has deliberately and repeatedly ignored everything I wrote and instead claimed I have written something completely different.
Even when I gave you direct quotes of my earlier posts, you claimed I said otherwise. I would call you a RETARD but that would be an insult towards the mentally handicapped people.
I have more respect towards stepford fans who will unconditionally love everything that comes out with a Queen label, than low-life pondscum like you... At least they would be trying to discuss something with me and referring to my points instead of just making everything up inside their heads.
I hope you don't think I'm angry at you, or that your pointless replies would have any bearing on my future posts on this message board. I just wanted to make it ABSOLUTELY clear why you aren't worth talking to.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Tero wrote: [/QUOTENAME]
stepford fans who will unconditionally love everything that comes out with a Queen label
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There really aren't that many of them on Queenzone, chap. Do you even pay attention to the manifest threads and comments heaping crap upon the Robbie Williams thing, the shitty assed version of Another One Bites the Dust, the 5ive thing, the Musical.... ?
To you; a stepford is someone who likes anything with a Queen label, that you don't like.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Tero wrote: [/QUOTENAME]I just wanted to make it ABSOLUTELY clear why you aren't worth talking to.[/QUOTE]
And you did this; by talking to him.
Bravo!
stepford fans who will unconditionally love everything that comes out with a Queen label
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There really aren't that many of them on Queenzone, chap. Do you even pay attention to the manifest threads and comments heaping crap upon the Robbie Williams thing, the shitty assed version of Another One Bites the Dust, the 5ive thing, the Musical.... ?
To you; a stepford is someone who likes anything with a Queen label, that you don't like.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Tero wrote: [/QUOTENAME]I just wanted to make it ABSOLUTELY clear why you aren't worth talking to.[/QUOTE]
And you did this; by talking to him.
Bravo!
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Zebonka12 wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Tero wrote: [/QUOTENAME]
stepford fans who will unconditionally love everything that comes out with a Queen label
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There really aren't that many of them on Queenzone, chap. Do you even pay attention to the manifest threads and comments heaping crap upon the Robbie Williams thing, the shitty assed version of Another One Bites the Dust, the 5ive thing, the Musical.... ?
To you; a stepford is someone who likes anything with a Queen label, that you don't like.[/QUOTE]
NO, to me a stepford is exactly what I said: somebody who will unconditionally love anything with a Queen label on.
Luckily there aren't many of them here at QZ (and I've never claimed there to be), but I would still rather have a discussion with any of them instead of people like Microwave for the reason stated above.
stepford fans who will unconditionally love everything that comes out with a Queen label
[/QUOTE]
There really aren't that many of them on Queenzone, chap. Do you even pay attention to the manifest threads and comments heaping crap upon the Robbie Williams thing, the shitty assed version of Another One Bites the Dust, the 5ive thing, the Musical.... ?
To you; a stepford is someone who likes anything with a Queen label, that you don't like.[/QUOTE]
NO, to me a stepford is exactly what I said: somebody who will unconditionally love anything with a Queen label on.
Luckily there aren't many of them here at QZ (and I've never claimed there to be), but I would still rather have a discussion with any of them instead of people like Microwave for the reason stated above.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Tero wrote: [/QUOTENAME] but I would still rather have a discussion with any of them instead of people like Microwave for the reason stated above.[/QUOTE]
Cool.
By the way, have you heard the one about the one-legged man at an ass kicking contest?
That's you.
Cool.
By the way, have you heard the one about the one-legged man at an ass kicking contest?
That's you.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Microwave wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Tero wrote: [/QUOTENAME] but I would still rather have a discussion with any of them instead of people like Microwave for the reason stated above.[/QUOTE]
Cool.
By the way, have you heard the one about the one-legged man at an ass kicking contest?
That's you.[/QUOTE]
That was better than 97% of Tero's arguments. And funnier than the other 3%.
Cool.
By the way, have you heard the one about the one-legged man at an ass kicking contest?
That's you.[/QUOTE]
That was better than 97% of Tero's arguments. And funnier than the other 3%.
I think it´s a nice gesture. Period. I´m not gonna throw my self into any arguments whether it is or isn´t. I just think it is.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Tero wrote: [/QUOTENAME]
Now, unless you or anybody else has a genuinely new point to make, I'm done with this discussion.[/QUOTE]
I like ham sandwiches. Do you like ham sandwiches? Why or why not?
Now, unless you or anybody else has a genuinely new point to make, I'm done with this discussion.[/QUOTE]
I like ham sandwiches. Do you like ham sandwiches? Why or why not?