[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Holly2003 wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Tero wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Holly2003 wrote: [/QUOTENAME]There's no real reply to my comments posted 8/18/2008 8:16:00 AM is there?[/QUOTE]
You mean this one?
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Holly2003 wrote: [/QUOTENAME]That is so weak. You are getting further and further away from reality.[/QUOTE]
What kind of a "real reply" do you expect from me? Personal insults?[/QUOTE]
Selective quoting from you once again. Here's the gist of it again for you since you appear to have forgotten how and whn your argument died:
TERO: I'm claiming that Brian and Roger have chosen to use the Queen name for own their personal gain, and subsequently made a big deal about dedicating this album to Freddie in an effort to appease that segment of the Queen fans who don't like the two of them using the Queen name.
ME: Why would they give a toss about those fans if they aren't going to buy the cd anyway? Presumably these fans will continue to buy releases of pre-QPR stuff so that's not an issue. Your whole argument is about cynical manipulation of fans for profit and yet you admit there's no profit to be made from "the Queen fans who don't like the two of them using the Queen name". As you say, "No one buys records because of the dedications in them."
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No selective quoting there.
I gave my reply to your question, and your only reply was
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Holly2003 wrote: [/QUOTENAME]That is so weak. You are getting further and further away from reality.[/QUOTE]
If you don't like my theory and don't want to discuss it, that's fine by me.
You finished that particular avenue of discussion with the non-topical insults, and I tried to steer the discussion back to the actual topic again.
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[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Tero wrote: [/QUOTENAME]
I tried to steer the discussion back to the actual topic again.[/QUOTE]
Which is that you think Brian should dedicate everything that comes out of his body to Mr. Freddie Mercury.
Zebonka mentioned the John Lennon - Yoko connection, and that's a good one to grab onto, I think. Just "imagine" what everybody would start thinking if Brian did that. How would Anita feel? How would Jim Hutton feel? I don't think Brian wants to go down the whole "jealous wife" route again, do you?
I tried to steer the discussion back to the actual topic again.[/QUOTE]
Which is that you think Brian should dedicate everything that comes out of his body to Mr. Freddie Mercury.
Zebonka mentioned the John Lennon - Yoko connection, and that's a good one to grab onto, I think. Just "imagine" what everybody would start thinking if Brian did that. How would Anita feel? How would Jim Hutton feel? I don't think Brian wants to go down the whole "jealous wife" route again, do you?
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Microwave wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Which is that you think Brian should dedicate everything that comes out of his body to Mr. Freddie Mercury.[/QUOTE]
Did you actually read the post of mine from which I quoted to you a few pages ago?
Here's the whole thing in case you missed it from page one:
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Tero wrote: [/QUOTENAME]What I personally think is that as long as they are using the Queen name, they have to keep mentioning Freddie in an effort to not piss off those people who were fans of the band with four members.
If they were releasing solo albums or had come up with a new name for the band, no one would expect them to mention Freddie... Freddie isn't mentioned on the credits of Brian's Live At Brixton Academy and Furia, or Roger's Electric Fire album, and no one thinks Brian and Roger are heartless bastards because of that.
The dedication is nothing more than an "insurance" they can use against people who say they're ignoring Freddie as an integral part of the band.[/QUOTE]
Does that sound like I expect them to dedicate everything to Queen?
Did you actually read the post of mine from which I quoted to you a few pages ago?
Here's the whole thing in case you missed it from page one:
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Tero wrote: [/QUOTENAME]What I personally think is that as long as they are using the Queen name, they have to keep mentioning Freddie in an effort to not piss off those people who were fans of the band with four members.
If they were releasing solo albums or had come up with a new name for the band, no one would expect them to mention Freddie... Freddie isn't mentioned on the credits of Brian's Live At Brixton Academy and Furia, or Roger's Electric Fire album, and no one thinks Brian and Roger are heartless bastards because of that.
The dedication is nothing more than an "insurance" they can use against people who say they're ignoring Freddie as an integral part of the band.[/QUOTE]
Does that sound like I expect them to dedicate everything to Queen?
Your argument is weak and devoid of reality. If that is an insult then fine by me. So Brian may and Roger taylor are only including a dedication to Fred on the first new album by Queen with a new singer to ensure that freddie-groupies who won't even buy the album will, however, continue to buy re-releases of old albums. And yet you said yourself that a dedication such as this has no effect whatsoever on whether someone will make a purchase. If that's the case how can it suddenly develop the power to influence the purchasing choices of Queen fans in the future? The answer is, of course, that it can't. It's ridiculous, an obvious case of someone twisting the "evidence" to conform with their pre-conceived notions of guilt rather than looking at the evidence logically and drawing reasonable conclusions from that.
In fact, here for you is my OFFICIAL COSMOS ROCKS LINER NOTES for Tero. Just print this page, grab some scissors and scotch tape and amend your CD booklet when it comes:
QUEEN + PAUL RODGERS*
(*which really means a couple of guys from the former band 'Queen Featuring Freddie Mercury' and Paul Rodgers who really liked Freddie Mercury.
1. Cosmos Rockin' (Dedicated to the Immortal Spirit of Freddie Mercury)
.......We wrote this song because we know that somewhere Freddie's got the Cosmos Rockin'!!
2. Time To Shine
.......Roger and Paul wrote this and I completely changed the lyrics about when Freddie changed
.......our band Smile and took over and made us Shine.
3. Still Burnin'
.......Dedicated to the funeral home that handled Freddie's final ceremony. You could cremate
.......the body, but the Rock & Roll is Still Burnin'
4. Small
.......We wrote this one about how we felt whenever we recorded, toured, partied, with Freddie
5. Warboys
.......Dedicated to our AIDS awareness campaign. The battle is far from over!!!
.......We miss you Freddie.
6. We Believe
.......I wrote this one with Laura Branigan back in 1989 but she's not gonna need the songwriting
.......credit anymore so I thought I'd add Freddie's instead. Laura really liked Freddie.
7. Call Me
.......Roger's last words to Freddie put in a song. That seems to be Rogers last words to everyone,
.......followed by that cheeky little thumb to the ear-pinky to the mouth hand sign.
8. Voodoo
.......Paul came up with this crazy way to make him sing better by having a seance with Roger and
.......myself. About ten minutes in all the candles blew out and the doors locked. The next thing
.......you know, we're having a conversation with Freddie from beyond. And Paul really does
.......sound better!
9. Some Things That Glitter
.......A song about Freddie and his cats
10. C-lebrity
.......We're really behind this song, about how all you need to be is on TV to be
.......considered a talent. Freddie was a talent, these kids these days?
11. Through The Night
.......Ever since 1991, Roger and I haven't been able to sleep really good. I wrote this
.......lullaby with Paul and added some Rock & Roll, every now and then Roger nods off
.......right in the middle of the Bridge so we borrowed David Richard's drum machine.
12. Say It's Not True
.......Roger's sappy song he wrote about John Deacon leaving the band. Later I completely
.......changed the lyrics to bring out his true feelings about losing Freddie.
13. Surf's Up . . . School's Out !
.......A lot of people thought that "Hang Ten" comment Freddie used to say was some
.......kind of gay code, but really all Freddie wanted to do was surf.
14. (small reprise)
.......We had thirty eight minutes left from Track 13. Here it is. On his way to
.......Heaven, Freddie hit a couple of speed bumps.
Special Thanks to: Freddie Mercury, Anita Dobson, the lot of whores Roger's been running around with, and Mrs. Paul Rodgers... who all really loved Freddie.
No thanks to: John Deacon, Spike Edney, Danny Miranda, Jamie Moses, The Mary Austin Living Trust, and everyone else I have to pay to get this record profitable!
QUEEN + PAUL RODGERS*
(*which really means a couple of guys from the former band 'Queen Featuring Freddie Mercury' and Paul Rodgers who really liked Freddie Mercury.
1. Cosmos Rockin' (Dedicated to the Immortal Spirit of Freddie Mercury)
.......We wrote this song because we know that somewhere Freddie's got the Cosmos Rockin'!!
2. Time To Shine
.......Roger and Paul wrote this and I completely changed the lyrics about when Freddie changed
.......our band Smile and took over and made us Shine.
3. Still Burnin'
.......Dedicated to the funeral home that handled Freddie's final ceremony. You could cremate
.......the body, but the Rock & Roll is Still Burnin'
4. Small
.......We wrote this one about how we felt whenever we recorded, toured, partied, with Freddie
5. Warboys
.......Dedicated to our AIDS awareness campaign. The battle is far from over!!!
.......We miss you Freddie.
6. We Believe
.......I wrote this one with Laura Branigan back in 1989 but she's not gonna need the songwriting
.......credit anymore so I thought I'd add Freddie's instead. Laura really liked Freddie.
7. Call Me
.......Roger's last words to Freddie put in a song. That seems to be Rogers last words to everyone,
.......followed by that cheeky little thumb to the ear-pinky to the mouth hand sign.
8. Voodoo
.......Paul came up with this crazy way to make him sing better by having a seance with Roger and
.......myself. About ten minutes in all the candles blew out and the doors locked. The next thing
.......you know, we're having a conversation with Freddie from beyond. And Paul really does
.......sound better!
9. Some Things That Glitter
.......A song about Freddie and his cats
10. C-lebrity
.......We're really behind this song, about how all you need to be is on TV to be
.......considered a talent. Freddie was a talent, these kids these days?
11. Through The Night
.......Ever since 1991, Roger and I haven't been able to sleep really good. I wrote this
.......lullaby with Paul and added some Rock & Roll, every now and then Roger nods off
.......right in the middle of the Bridge so we borrowed David Richard's drum machine.
12. Say It's Not True
.......Roger's sappy song he wrote about John Deacon leaving the band. Later I completely
.......changed the lyrics to bring out his true feelings about losing Freddie.
13. Surf's Up . . . School's Out !
.......A lot of people thought that "Hang Ten" comment Freddie used to say was some
.......kind of gay code, but really all Freddie wanted to do was surf.
14. (small reprise)
.......We had thirty eight minutes left from Track 13. Here it is. On his way to
.......Heaven, Freddie hit a couple of speed bumps.
Special Thanks to: Freddie Mercury, Anita Dobson, the lot of whores Roger's been running around with, and Mrs. Paul Rodgers... who all really loved Freddie.
No thanks to: John Deacon, Spike Edney, Danny Miranda, Jamie Moses, The Mary Austin Living Trust, and everyone else I have to pay to get this record profitable!
If they weren't using the Queen name and they dedicated it to Freddie, what would you say then?
What if they didn't mention Freddie at all but used the Queen name anyway?
I like the possibilities here, ha-ha.
What if they didn't mention Freddie at all but used the Queen name anyway?
I like the possibilities here, ha-ha.
To add my thoughts here seem pointless, as it seems less a discussion and more two camps that will never budge on their opinion.
However...
Brian and Roger have no need to mention Freddie evrytime they release something, everyone who knows the name Queen will know he was part of that business..
Note I say business, yes it is run as such, why wouldn't it be? they are not money grabbing, nobody is pointing a gun to your head and making you buy anything. You have a choice.
Freddie was first and foremost their closest friend, so it seems to me perfectly natural to want to mention him on this album, it is after all the first Queen album without him!
If they do others I doubt they will do the same again.
DO you really think by putting his name on it fans that think Queen is not Queen without him and going to change their view??? No
It is what it is pure and simple, a dedication to a friend lost.
As for using the Queen name, I can see no reason why not, They are after all perfectly intitled to do so they were 50% of it, they play the smae music at concerts, so to go out under the name of The ABIGBAND Group and play 98% Queen songs would be rediculas.
They wrote or co-wrote the songs so why not play them? As for the argument of why carry on, I'm 100% with Roger, it's what they do... why stop?
However...
Brian and Roger have no need to mention Freddie evrytime they release something, everyone who knows the name Queen will know he was part of that business..
Note I say business, yes it is run as such, why wouldn't it be? they are not money grabbing, nobody is pointing a gun to your head and making you buy anything. You have a choice.
Freddie was first and foremost their closest friend, so it seems to me perfectly natural to want to mention him on this album, it is after all the first Queen album without him!
If they do others I doubt they will do the same again.
DO you really think by putting his name on it fans that think Queen is not Queen without him and going to change their view??? No
It is what it is pure and simple, a dedication to a friend lost.
As for using the Queen name, I can see no reason why not, They are after all perfectly intitled to do so they were 50% of it, they play the smae music at concerts, so to go out under the name of The ABIGBAND Group and play 98% Queen songs would be rediculas.
They wrote or co-wrote the songs so why not play them? As for the argument of why carry on, I'm 100% with Roger, it's what they do... why stop?
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Holly2003 wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Your argument is weak and devoid of reality. If that is an insult then fine by me. So Brian may and Roger taylor are only including a dedication to Fred on the first new album by Queen with a new singer to ensure that freddie-groupies who won't even buy the album will, however, continue to buy re-releases of old albums. And yet you said yourself that a dedication such as this has no effect whatsoever on whether someone will make a purchase. If that's the case how can it suddenly develop the power to influence the purchasing choices of Queen fans in the future? The answer is, of course, that it can't. It's ridiculous, an obvious case of someone twisting the "evidence" to conform with their pre-conceived notions of guilt rather than looking at the evidence logically and drawing reasonable conclusions from that.[/QUOTE]
One dedication alone doesn't mean that "freddie-groupies who won't even buy the album will, however, continue to buy re-releases of old albums", that's obvious, and something I HAVE NEVER CLAIMED.
What that dedication can do, though, is soften the disappointment some people might feel about half of the band continuing as Queen, and make sure they won't drift too far away from the reach of QP when the next "proper" Queen release comes along.
The Queen fans aren't just composed of "QPR fans" and "Freddie groupies". There are segments in between those two which could be swayed one way or the other. Even the slightest gesture can mean the difference of selling dozens of records in the future, and it's a move any business CAN'T afford to ignore.
You don't have to like my opinions, and you can shrug off any logic and reasoning I have by just saying that "I'm getting further and further away from reality". It's not very nice or productive (let alone indicative of your superior reasoning), but it is absolutely your right.
One dedication alone doesn't mean that "freddie-groupies who won't even buy the album will, however, continue to buy re-releases of old albums", that's obvious, and something I HAVE NEVER CLAIMED.
What that dedication can do, though, is soften the disappointment some people might feel about half of the band continuing as Queen, and make sure they won't drift too far away from the reach of QP when the next "proper" Queen release comes along.
The Queen fans aren't just composed of "QPR fans" and "Freddie groupies". There are segments in between those two which could be swayed one way or the other. Even the slightest gesture can mean the difference of selling dozens of records in the future, and it's a move any business CAN'T afford to ignore.
You don't have to like my opinions, and you can shrug off any logic and reasoning I have by just saying that "I'm getting further and further away from reality". It's not very nice or productive (let alone indicative of your superior reasoning), but it is absolutely your right.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Tero wrote: [/QUOTENAME]What that dedication can do, though, is soften the disappointment some people might feel about half of the band continuing as Queen, and make sure they won't drift too far away from the reach of QP when the next "proper" Queen release comes along.
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In your opinion.
You see, that's the problem, Tero. You're so convinced that YOU are correct. But let me clue you in on something.
THE DEDICATION VERBIAGE IS NOT VISIBLE UNTIL AFTER YOU OPEN THE CD!!!!
So how will they see this dedication without buying the CD? An in-store display copy? I've worked at a record store before and NEVER had anyone come into the store wanting to see the CD booklet before buying the album. 99.99% of people would rather HEAR the CD not read it.
But, if the .001% of the Queen listening public (you) want to see that first, knock yourself out.
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In your opinion.
You see, that's the problem, Tero. You're so convinced that YOU are correct. But let me clue you in on something.
THE DEDICATION VERBIAGE IS NOT VISIBLE UNTIL AFTER YOU OPEN THE CD!!!!
So how will they see this dedication without buying the CD? An in-store display copy? I've worked at a record store before and NEVER had anyone come into the store wanting to see the CD booklet before buying the album. 99.99% of people would rather HEAR the CD not read it.
But, if the .001% of the Queen listening public (you) want to see that first, knock yourself out.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Microwave wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Tero wrote: [/QUOTENAME]What that dedication can do, though, is soften the disappointment some people might feel about half of the band continuing as Queen, and make sure they won't drift too far away from the reach of QP when the next "proper" Queen release comes along.
[/QUOTE]
In your opinion.
You see, that's the problem, Tero. You're so convinced that YOU are correct. But let me clue you in on something.
THE DEDICATION VERBIAGE IS NOT VISIBLE UNTIL AFTER YOU OPEN THE CD!!!!
So how will they see this dedication without buying the CD? An in-store display copy? I've worked at a record store before and NEVER had anyone come into the store wanting to see the CD booklet before buying the album. 99.99% of people would rather HEAR the CD not read it.
But, if the .001% of the Queen listening public (you) want to see that first, knock yourself out.[/QUOTE]
If you had actually read my entire message, you would know by now that I'm not talking about buying THIS release. I'm in fact talking about subsequent Queen releases, and how this triumphant announcement of a dedication is going to reach even those people who will not buy the album.
But hey, feel free to ignore this message as well, and write another reply to the message you THINK I wrote instead of the one I actually DID write.
That is what you have been doing all the way through this topic.
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In your opinion.
You see, that's the problem, Tero. You're so convinced that YOU are correct. But let me clue you in on something.
THE DEDICATION VERBIAGE IS NOT VISIBLE UNTIL AFTER YOU OPEN THE CD!!!!
So how will they see this dedication without buying the CD? An in-store display copy? I've worked at a record store before and NEVER had anyone come into the store wanting to see the CD booklet before buying the album. 99.99% of people would rather HEAR the CD not read it.
But, if the .001% of the Queen listening public (you) want to see that first, knock yourself out.[/QUOTE]
If you had actually read my entire message, you would know by now that I'm not talking about buying THIS release. I'm in fact talking about subsequent Queen releases, and how this triumphant announcement of a dedication is going to reach even those people who will not buy the album.
But hey, feel free to ignore this message as well, and write another reply to the message you THINK I wrote instead of the one I actually DID write.
That is what you have been doing all the way through this topic.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Tero wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Holly2003 wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Your argument is weak and devoid of reality. If that is an insult then fine by me. So Brian may and Roger taylor are only including a dedication to Fred on the first new album by Queen with a new singer to ensure that freddie-groupies who won't even buy the album will, however, continue to buy re-releases of old albums. And yet you said yourself that a dedication such as this has no effect whatsoever on whether someone will make a purchase. If that's the case how can it suddenly develop the power to influence the purchasing choices of Queen fans in the future? The answer is, of course, that it can't. It's ridiculous, an obvious case of someone twisting the "evidence" to conform with their pre-conceived notions of guilt rather than looking at the evidence logically and drawing reasonable conclusions from that.[/QUOTE]
One dedication alone doesn't mean that "freddie-groupies who won't even buy the album will, however, continue to buy re-releases of old albums", that's obvious, and something I HAVE NEVER CLAIMED.
What that dedication can do, though, is soften the disappointment some people might feel about half of the band continuing as Queen, and make sure they won't drift too far away from the reach of QP when the next "proper" Queen release comes along.
The Queen fans aren't just composed of "QPR fans" and "Freddie groupies". There are segments in between those two which could be swayed one way or the other. Even the slightest gesture can mean the difference of selling dozens of records in the future, and it's a move any business CAN'T afford to ignore.
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So you've moved from "Queen fans" to "those Queen fans who won't but the new album" to "some Queen fans". If you keep qualifying your argument, soon you'll be able to name these Queen fans. Or fan.
One dedication alone doesn't mean that "freddie-groupies who won't even buy the album will, however, continue to buy re-releases of old albums", that's obvious, and something I HAVE NEVER CLAIMED.
What that dedication can do, though, is soften the disappointment some people might feel about half of the band continuing as Queen, and make sure they won't drift too far away from the reach of QP when the next "proper" Queen release comes along.
The Queen fans aren't just composed of "QPR fans" and "Freddie groupies". There are segments in between those two which could be swayed one way or the other. Even the slightest gesture can mean the difference of selling dozens of records in the future, and it's a move any business CAN'T afford to ignore.
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So you've moved from "Queen fans" to "those Queen fans who won't but the new album" to "some Queen fans". If you keep qualifying your argument, soon you'll be able to name these Queen fans. Or fan.
OMG.... this thread still goes on...
For god's sake, Tero, you are SO right.
In fact, we should burn the new album in the streets, because Brian is evil, and so is Roger, and don't even mention Paul!!!
oh, old grumpy Brian, I can't believe that you dedicated this album to Freddie... you cheater, you only want money to buy slaves from africa.
tero, THANK YOU, really thank you for telling us the truth.
For god's sake, Tero, you are SO right.
In fact, we should burn the new album in the streets, because Brian is evil, and so is Roger, and don't even mention Paul!!!
oh, old grumpy Brian, I can't believe that you dedicated this album to Freddie... you cheater, you only want money to buy slaves from africa.
tero, THANK YOU, really thank you for telling us the truth.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Tero wrote: [/QUOTENAME]I'm in fact talking about subsequent Queen releases, and how this triumphant announcement of a dedication is going to reach even those people who will not buy the album.
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I'm starting to wonder if you're just a moron.
1. Subsequent Queen releases? Slow down, buddy. We have had 1 since 1991. So in another 17 years, is any Queen fan going to be alive or able to read the dedication for the 2nd subsequent Queen release?
2. Is Parlophone (and Hollywood) aware of these subsequent releases and ready to shoot the promotional works for them? Don't you think they want to see where this album goes first?
(FYI, Hollywood is just barely hanging on right now)
3. Please name a similar "triumphant announcement" that has had similar results? Led Zep? No. Beatles? No. The John Tesh band? No.
4. People who will not buy the album. Why do these people matter? So Brian, Roger, and Paul should write liner notes FOR PEOPLE WHO WILL NOT BUY THE ALBUM. And, using your logic, they will magically know the contents of those liner notes from a Yahoo Liner Notes group, then?
Please feel free NOT to address my retorts, as you think I'm not addressing yours. It's fun. Would you like to talk about how the fashion industry is going to use the colors of Mustard in determining the next season's choices?
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I'm starting to wonder if you're just a moron.
1. Subsequent Queen releases? Slow down, buddy. We have had 1 since 1991. So in another 17 years, is any Queen fan going to be alive or able to read the dedication for the 2nd subsequent Queen release?
2. Is Parlophone (and Hollywood) aware of these subsequent releases and ready to shoot the promotional works for them? Don't you think they want to see where this album goes first?
(FYI, Hollywood is just barely hanging on right now)
3. Please name a similar "triumphant announcement" that has had similar results? Led Zep? No. Beatles? No. The John Tesh band? No.
4. People who will not buy the album. Why do these people matter? So Brian, Roger, and Paul should write liner notes FOR PEOPLE WHO WILL NOT BUY THE ALBUM. And, using your logic, they will magically know the contents of those liner notes from a Yahoo Liner Notes group, then?
Please feel free NOT to address my retorts, as you think I'm not addressing yours. It's fun. Would you like to talk about how the fashion industry is going to use the colors of Mustard in determining the next season's choices?
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Holly2003 wrote: [/QUOTENAME]
So you've moved from "Queen fans" to "those Queen fans who won't buy the new album" to "some Queen fans". If you keep qualifying your argument, soon you'll be able to name these Queen fans. Or fan.[/QUOTE]
We're pretty much down to Larry, Bob, and Steve. And Steve's wavering...
So you've moved from "Queen fans" to "those Queen fans who won't buy the new album" to "some Queen fans". If you keep qualifying your argument, soon you'll be able to name these Queen fans. Or fan.[/QUOTE]
We're pretty much down to Larry, Bob, and Steve. And Steve's wavering...
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Holly2003 wrote: [/QUOTENAME]So you've moved from "Queen fans" to "those Queen fans who won't but the new album" to "some Queen fans". If you keep qualifying your argument, soon you'll be able to name these Queen fans. Or fan.[/QUOTE]
I just read through the whole topic again, and I found these three references I wrote about Queen fans:
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Tero wrote: [/QUOTENAME]they have to keep mentioning Freddie in an effort to not piss off those people who were fans of the band with four members.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Tero wrote: [/QUOTENAME]I'm claiming that Brian and Roger have chosen to use the Queen name for own their personal gain, and subsequently made a big deal about dedicating this album to Freddie in an effort to appease that segment of the Queen fans who don't like the two of them using the Queen name.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Tero wrote: [/QUOTENAME]What that dedication can do, though, is soften the disappointment some people might feel about half of the band continuing as Queen, and make sure they won't drift too far away from the reach of QP when the next "proper" Queen release comes along.[/QUOTE]
"those people who were fans of the band with four members"
"the segment of Queen fans who don't like the two of them using the Queen name"
"some people might feel [disappointed] about half of the band continuing as Queen"
Admittedly you can interpret the first one to mean everyone who has ever been a Queen fan (including the current QPR fans), but it wouldn't really be wise to claim the dedication is trying to appease the QPR fans as well, would it? :P
After the context of the two other references to the fans who "don't like half of the band continuing as Queen", all three sound very consistent to me.
I just read through the whole topic again, and I found these three references I wrote about Queen fans:
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Tero wrote: [/QUOTENAME]they have to keep mentioning Freddie in an effort to not piss off those people who were fans of the band with four members.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Tero wrote: [/QUOTENAME]I'm claiming that Brian and Roger have chosen to use the Queen name for own their personal gain, and subsequently made a big deal about dedicating this album to Freddie in an effort to appease that segment of the Queen fans who don't like the two of them using the Queen name.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Tero wrote: [/QUOTENAME]What that dedication can do, though, is soften the disappointment some people might feel about half of the band continuing as Queen, and make sure they won't drift too far away from the reach of QP when the next "proper" Queen release comes along.[/QUOTE]
"those people who were fans of the band with four members"
"the segment of Queen fans who don't like the two of them using the Queen name"
"some people might feel [disappointed] about half of the band continuing as Queen"
Admittedly you can interpret the first one to mean everyone who has ever been a Queen fan (including the current QPR fans), but it wouldn't really be wise to claim the dedication is trying to appease the QPR fans as well, would it? :P
After the context of the two other references to the fans who "don't like half of the band continuing as Queen", all three sound very consistent to me.