So what's the consensus on Joe Biden as Obama's pick for Vice President?
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I consider it a good choice; Biden's experience on Foreign Affairs gives Obama good coverage on his exposed flank. I think he can help beat McCain, and I think he will make a good VP afterward.
Seems like a good choice for Obama. Like Caspar pointed out, Biden has the foreign policy experience that was the primary weakness the Republicans loved to point out. Plus, Biden also makes a great attack dog, which is basically the purpose of the VP candidate prior to the general elections, and with his blue-collar reputation he'll help bring those voters to Obama; he was having trouble winning them over from Hilary.
But Biden does have a tendency to be a lighting rod for stupid comments; they did call him the Gaffe Machine for a while. And it might prove a problem to Obama's message of Change since Biden is the epitome of a Washington Insider, with three terms in the Senate.
But it's the best choice he could have made I think. I mean, with so many people pushing him to chose Hilary. Thank GOD he didn't do that; that would not have been a good move!
But Biden does have a tendency to be a lighting rod for stupid comments; they did call him the Gaffe Machine for a while. And it might prove a problem to Obama's message of Change since Biden is the epitome of a Washington Insider, with three terms in the Senate.
But it's the best choice he could have made I think. I mean, with so many people pushing him to chose Hilary. Thank GOD he didn't do that; that would not have been a good move!
Hey historygirl, you REALLY think it matters who wins? you cant be that naive can you?
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Treasure Moment wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Hey historygirl, you REALLY think it matters who wins? you cant be that naive can you?[/QUOTE]
Instead of repeating the same crap over and over again, could you possibly spend some time thinking of a more intelligent way of wording it?
Watch some George Carlin. He did a great bit once on how we don't have elected leaders; we have 'owners'!
If you'd quit being such a repetitive turd, and start writing something with some substance, there's a remote possibility that you might see (someday) a person writing "I agree with Treasure Moment".
Instead of repeating the same crap over and over again, could you possibly spend some time thinking of a more intelligent way of wording it?
Watch some George Carlin. He did a great bit once on how we don't have elected leaders; we have 'owners'!
If you'd quit being such a repetitive turd, and start writing something with some substance, there's a remote possibility that you might see (someday) a person writing "I agree with Treasure Moment".
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Zebonka12 wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Treasure Moment wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Hey historygirl, you REALLY think it matters who wins? you cant be that naive can you?[/QUOTE]
Instead of repeating the same crap over and over again, could you possibly spend some time thinking of a more intelligent way of wording it?
Watch some George Carlin. He did a great bit once on how we don't have elected leaders; we have 'owners'!
If you'd quit being such a repetitive turd, and start writing something with some substance, there's a remote possibility that you might see (someday) a person writing "I agree with Treasure Moment".[/QUOTE]
what can i say instead of the obvious? i just said it doesnt matter who wins cause thats how it is.
Instead of repeating the same crap over and over again, could you possibly spend some time thinking of a more intelligent way of wording it?
Watch some George Carlin. He did a great bit once on how we don't have elected leaders; we have 'owners'!
If you'd quit being such a repetitive turd, and start writing something with some substance, there's a remote possibility that you might see (someday) a person writing "I agree with Treasure Moment".[/QUOTE]
what can i say instead of the obvious? i just said it doesnt matter who wins cause thats how it is.
You're on a forum dude... forums are for discussions. Why don't you back up what you're saying; why not tell people WHY you think the way you do?
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Zebonka12 wrote: [/QUOTENAME] Why don't you back up what you're saying; why not tell people WHY you think the way you do?
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Personally, I'd rather he didn't. Not again. He's posted it dozens of times too many already. FACT.
As for Biden, I also think he's a good choice - though a chancy one. He's a hot-headed in-your-face kind of guy. I guess as a counter to Obama, that can be a good thing.
If you consider Obama's limits in the area of foreign policy (and who isn't considering that?), Biden's experience there is his golden ticket to the V.P. slot - but the spin will be (and already is) that choosing Biden shows Obama's lack of confidence in this area. I think it shows common sense - where expertise is required, you don't wing it, you bring in an expert.
And Biden has his own agenda - to make individuals safer. No grand scheme, just a simple focus that encompasses so much. If his work on the Violence Against Women Act is any indication of what he'll do as VP, I think we'll be in pretty good hands... I just hope he can learn to keep his mouth shut when necessary.
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Personally, I'd rather he didn't. Not again. He's posted it dozens of times too many already. FACT.
As for Biden, I also think he's a good choice - though a chancy one. He's a hot-headed in-your-face kind of guy. I guess as a counter to Obama, that can be a good thing.
If you consider Obama's limits in the area of foreign policy (and who isn't considering that?), Biden's experience there is his golden ticket to the V.P. slot - but the spin will be (and already is) that choosing Biden shows Obama's lack of confidence in this area. I think it shows common sense - where expertise is required, you don't wing it, you bring in an expert.
And Biden has his own agenda - to make individuals safer. No grand scheme, just a simple focus that encompasses so much. If his work on the Violence Against Women Act is any indication of what he'll do as VP, I think we'll be in pretty good hands... I just hope he can learn to keep his mouth shut when necessary.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Zebonka12 wrote: [/QUOTENAME]You're on a forum dude... forums are for discussions. Why don't you back up what you're saying; why not tell people WHY you think the way you do?
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Its very simple, corporations and organized religion have teamed up and this group of elite bankers OWN everything and pull the strings behind the scen and they own all the major candidates, its very simple logic.
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Its very simple, corporations and organized religion have teamed up and this group of elite bankers OWN everything and pull the strings behind the scen and they own all the major candidates, its very simple logic.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Treasure Moment wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Zebonka12 wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Treasure Moment wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Hey historygirl, you REALLY think it matters who wins? you cant be that naive can you?[/QUOTE]
Instead of repeating the same crap over and over again, could you possibly spend some time thinking of a more intelligent way of wording it?
Watch some George Carlin. He did a great bit once on how we don't have elected leaders; we have 'owners'!
If you'd quit being such a repetitive turd, and start writing something with some substance, there's a remote possibility that you might see (someday) a person writing "I agree with Treasure Moment".[/QUOTE]
what can i say instead of the obvious? i just said it doesnt matter who wins cause thats how it is.[/QUOTE]
People thinking like that make for 95% of the problems in the world.
Instead of repeating the same crap over and over again, could you possibly spend some time thinking of a more intelligent way of wording it?
Watch some George Carlin. He did a great bit once on how we don't have elected leaders; we have 'owners'!
If you'd quit being such a repetitive turd, and start writing something with some substance, there's a remote possibility that you might see (someday) a person writing "I agree with Treasure Moment".[/QUOTE]
what can i say instead of the obvious? i just said it doesnt matter who wins cause thats how it is.[/QUOTE]
People thinking like that make for 95% of the problems in the world.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Treasure Moment wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Zebonka12 wrote: [/QUOTENAME]You're on a forum dude... forums are for discussions. Why don't you back up what you're saying; why not tell people WHY you think the way you do?
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Its very simple, corporations and organized religion have teamed up and this group of elite bankers OWN everything and pull the strings behind the scen and they own all the major candidates, its very simple logic.[/QUOTE]
It would be, if it were true. It's not. Close to it, but not that bad just yet.
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Its very simple, corporations and organized religion have teamed up and this group of elite bankers OWN everything and pull the strings behind the scen and they own all the major candidates, its very simple logic.[/QUOTE]
It would be, if it were true. It's not. Close to it, but not that bad just yet.
LOL, Treasure Moment's watched Zeitgeist one too many times...
As for the VP pick, Biden's an excellent choice. I'd go into more depth, but I'd just be echoing what everyone's been saying.
As for the VP pick, Biden's an excellent choice. I'd go into more depth, but I'd just be echoing what everyone's been saying.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]ThomasQuinn wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Treasure Moment wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Zebonka12 wrote: [/QUOTENAME]You're on a forum dude... forums are for discussions. Why don't you back up what you're saying; why not tell people WHY you think the way you do?
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Its very simple, corporations and organized religion have teamed up and this group of elite bankers OWN everything and pull the strings behind the scen and they own all the major candidates, its very simple logic.[/QUOTE]
It would be, if it were true. It's not. Close to it, but not that bad just yet. [/QUOTE]
its not my opinion, its a FACT.
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Its very simple, corporations and organized religion have teamed up and this group of elite bankers OWN everything and pull the strings behind the scen and they own all the major candidates, its very simple logic.[/QUOTE]
It would be, if it were true. It's not. Close to it, but not that bad just yet. [/QUOTE]
its not my opinion, its a FACT.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Smitty wrote: [/QUOTENAME]LOL, Treasure Moment's watched Zeitgeist one too many times...
As for the VP pick, Biden's an excellent choice. I'd go into more depth, but I'd just be echoing what everyone's been saying.[/QUOTE]
well that documentary has alot of very valid points.
As for the VP pick, Biden's an excellent choice. I'd go into more depth, but I'd just be echoing what everyone's been saying.[/QUOTE]
well that documentary has alot of very valid points.
So did Bowling for Colombine but for every valid point in a Michael Moore film, there are one or two valid points he completely ignores.
For your own sake, have an open mind!
For your own sake, have an open mind!