[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Jake? wrote: [/QUOTENAME]What does an asshole smell like though?
But I agree with you. It's all opinions.[/QUOTE]
Opinions are like assholes, everybody has one.
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Brian's best songs are from 80's...
Save Me, Hammer To Fall, Who Wants To Live Forever, I Want It All...
John had AOBTD and I Want To Break Free...both great songs...
Roger and Freddie were a bit less creative than in the 70's...yet Freddie had Princes Of The Universe, The Miracle, Was It All Worth It...
Save Me, Hammer To Fall, Who Wants To Live Forever, I Want It All...
John had AOBTD and I Want To Break Free...both great songs...
Roger and Freddie were a bit less creative than in the 70's...yet Freddie had Princes Of The Universe, The Miracle, Was It All Worth It...
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]freddiesfairy wrote: [/QUOTENAME]
Opinions are like assholes, everybody has one.
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Wrong.
Opinions are like assholes, most of them stink.
Opinions are like assholes, everybody has one.
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Wrong.
Opinions are like assholes, most of them stink.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Zebonka12 wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]freddiesfairy wrote: [/QUOTENAME]
Opinions are like assholes, everybody has one.
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Wrong.
Opinions are like assholes, most of them stink.[/QUOTE]
Wrong again.
Opinions on QZ are like assholes, and Freddie's been in most of them.
Opinions are like assholes, everybody has one.
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Wrong.
Opinions are like assholes, most of them stink.[/QUOTE]
Wrong again.
Opinions on QZ are like assholes, and Freddie's been in most of them.
I posted the original question in the hope of generating some serious and mature conversation. Apart from a very few, most of the comments are childish and immature.
Second question: does anyone know a Queen forum where people discuss and debate issues in informed and responsible manners?
Thanks!
Second question: does anyone know a Queen forum where people discuss and debate issues in informed and responsible manners?
Thanks!
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]ermin wrote: [/QUOTENAME]I posted the original question in the hope of generating some serious and mature conversation. Apart from a very few, most of the comments are childish and immature.
Second question: does anyone know a Queen forum where people discuss and debate issues in informed and responsible manners?
Thanks![/QUOTE]
This is the internet - manners and respect were never here, and they aint coming anytime soon!
Not that I think its a good thing, but you find me a forum full stop where there are only sensible answers and no rudeness, silliness and infighting!
(Actually, of those, I genuinely think theres always room for silliness!)
But I also dont think you'll ever find a more "informed" Queen forum than here - you just have to bear in mind that a lot of the people here have been having the same conversations (like this one) for years, so they tend to get bored and start going off topic, which is understandable.
Look at some of the more interesting and original discussions, and you'll see some sensible debating....for a bit! But hey - its Queen, its not fucking politics!
Second question: does anyone know a Queen forum where people discuss and debate issues in informed and responsible manners?
Thanks![/QUOTE]
This is the internet - manners and respect were never here, and they aint coming anytime soon!
Not that I think its a good thing, but you find me a forum full stop where there are only sensible answers and no rudeness, silliness and infighting!
(Actually, of those, I genuinely think theres always room for silliness!)
But I also dont think you'll ever find a more "informed" Queen forum than here - you just have to bear in mind that a lot of the people here have been having the same conversations (like this one) for years, so they tend to get bored and start going off topic, which is understandable.
Look at some of the more interesting and original discussions, and you'll see some sensible debating....for a bit! But hey - its Queen, its not fucking politics!
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]ermin wrote: [/QUOTENAME]While the Works, AKOM, and the Miracle produced their fair share of hits, there is no denying that much of what Queen recorded were rather average fillers, at least if measured by the standards Queen established in the 1970s.
I believe that one of the main reasons is that the band members got estranged from one another and, therefore, lacked more creative input from other members. It is true that, even earlier, they were largely individually responsible for songs. Yet, since they were spending more time together, they could provide more input and creativity to other members.
When it became clear that Freddie was about to die, they re-bonded together and the result was Innuendo, which was reminiscent of earlier efforts.
What do you think? Many people have already said this loss was due to synthesizers etc., but keyboards are heavily present on Innuendo as well. I think it was about their personal relationship more than anything else. Your thoughts?[/QUOTE]
They needed to live as well...can u imagine trying to write songs with kids running around the place. Quite simple, we fans assume they should be just MUSIC MUSIC MUSIC, but hey they are actually people with the same problems we all have.
I believe that one of the main reasons is that the band members got estranged from one another and, therefore, lacked more creative input from other members. It is true that, even earlier, they were largely individually responsible for songs. Yet, since they were spending more time together, they could provide more input and creativity to other members.
When it became clear that Freddie was about to die, they re-bonded together and the result was Innuendo, which was reminiscent of earlier efforts.
What do you think? Many people have already said this loss was due to synthesizers etc., but keyboards are heavily present on Innuendo as well. I think it was about their personal relationship more than anything else. Your thoughts?[/QUOTE]
They needed to live as well...can u imagine trying to write songs with kids running around the place. Quite simple, we fans assume they should be just MUSIC MUSIC MUSIC, but hey they are actually people with the same problems we all have.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Hadrian wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Jake? wrote: [/QUOTENAME]I thought the 70s Queen had a lot of filler. Of course some people might disagree.
Seven Seas Of Rhye...
Some Day One Day
Misfire
She Makes Me
Good Company
Seaside Rendezvous
Lazing On A Sunday Afternoon
Drowse
Sleeping On The Sidewalk
Who Needs You
All Dead All Dead
If You Can't Beat Them
In Only Seven Days[/QUOTE]
Seriously?! Good Company, Seaside Rendezvous and Lazing on a Sunday Afternoon all may be slightly corny by today's standards, but they are good musically. And I think SSOR and Sleeping On The Sidewalk are great songs.
I'll put up any of Queen's 'crappier' 70's songs against 80's shit like:
Cool Cat
Machines
Body Language
Pain is So Close to Pleasure
Don't Lose Your Head
Rain Must Fall
My Baby Does Me
Delilah[/QUOTE]
Why not listen to Delilah...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3x9zU6jmuM4
Tell me his vocals suck? It's a class song, with Queen Trade Marks, better than in the lap of the gods anyday
Seven Seas Of Rhye...
Some Day One Day
Misfire
She Makes Me
Good Company
Seaside Rendezvous
Lazing On A Sunday Afternoon
Drowse
Sleeping On The Sidewalk
Who Needs You
All Dead All Dead
If You Can't Beat Them
In Only Seven Days[/QUOTE]
Seriously?! Good Company, Seaside Rendezvous and Lazing on a Sunday Afternoon all may be slightly corny by today's standards, but they are good musically. And I think SSOR and Sleeping On The Sidewalk are great songs.
I'll put up any of Queen's 'crappier' 70's songs against 80's shit like:
Cool Cat
Machines
Body Language
Pain is So Close to Pleasure
Don't Lose Your Head
Rain Must Fall
My Baby Does Me
Delilah[/QUOTE]
Why not listen to Delilah...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3x9zU6jmuM4
Tell me his vocals suck? It's a class song, with Queen Trade Marks, better than in the lap of the gods anyday
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Jake? wrote: [/QUOTENAME]
Body Language, filler? Seems the public thought it was better than things like I Want To Break Free and Hammer To Fall.[/QUOTE]
Not quite. IWTBF was no 3 on UK charts and HTF no 13 while Body Language peaked at 25.
Body Language, filler? Seems the public thought it was better than things like I Want To Break Free and Hammer To Fall.[/QUOTE]
Not quite. IWTBF was no 3 on UK charts and HTF no 13 while Body Language peaked at 25.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]August R. wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Jake? wrote: [/QUOTENAME]
Body Language, filler? Seems the public thought it was better than things like I Want To Break Free and Hammer To Fall.[/QUOTE]
Not quite. IWTBF was no 3 on UK charts and HTF no 13 while Body Language peaked at 25.[/QUOTE]
Not in the USA. In fact, Body Language reached #11 and I Want To Break Free reached, I think, #45.
Body Language, filler? Seems the public thought it was better than things like I Want To Break Free and Hammer To Fall.[/QUOTE]
Not quite. IWTBF was no 3 on UK charts and HTF no 13 while Body Language peaked at 25.[/QUOTE]
Not in the USA. In fact, Body Language reached #11 and I Want To Break Free reached, I think, #45.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Cwazy little thing wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]ermin wrote: [/QUOTENAME]I posted the original question in the hope of generating some serious and mature conversation. Apart from a very few, most of the comments are childish and immature.
Second question: does anyone know a Queen forum where people discuss and debate issues in informed and responsible manners?
Thanks![/QUOTE]
This is the internet - manners and respect were never here, and they aint coming anytime soon!
Not that I think its a good thing, but you find me a forum full stop where there are only sensible answers and no rudeness, silliness and infighting!
(Actually, of those, I genuinely think theres always room for silliness!)
But I also dont think you'll ever find a more "informed" Queen forum than here - you just have to bear in mind that a lot of the people here have been having the same conversations (like this one) for years, so they tend to get bored and start going off topic, which is understandable.
Look at some of the more interesting and original discussions, and you'll see some sensible debating....for a bit! But hey - its Queen, its not fucking politics![/QUOTE]
It bothers me when it degenerates into name-calling and personal attacks. No opinion is considered bad; I solicited opinions in the first place. The problem is, the original question often gets sidetracked and people start engaging in petty debates.
As for the assertion that these questions have been debated, well, I know that; I read posts every day, and have been doing so for years now. It doesn't bother me when people ask the same question (unless they are acting as provocateurs) since there could be new members with new insights to offer. I am saddened, however, by the high number of personal attacks and personal negative comments. That's all!
Second question: does anyone know a Queen forum where people discuss and debate issues in informed and responsible manners?
Thanks![/QUOTE]
This is the internet - manners and respect were never here, and they aint coming anytime soon!
Not that I think its a good thing, but you find me a forum full stop where there are only sensible answers and no rudeness, silliness and infighting!
(Actually, of those, I genuinely think theres always room for silliness!)
But I also dont think you'll ever find a more "informed" Queen forum than here - you just have to bear in mind that a lot of the people here have been having the same conversations (like this one) for years, so they tend to get bored and start going off topic, which is understandable.
Look at some of the more interesting and original discussions, and you'll see some sensible debating....for a bit! But hey - its Queen, its not fucking politics![/QUOTE]
It bothers me when it degenerates into name-calling and personal attacks. No opinion is considered bad; I solicited opinions in the first place. The problem is, the original question often gets sidetracked and people start engaging in petty debates.
As for the assertion that these questions have been debated, well, I know that; I read posts every day, and have been doing so for years now. It doesn't bother me when people ask the same question (unless they are acting as provocateurs) since there could be new members with new insights to offer. I am saddened, however, by the high number of personal attacks and personal negative comments. That's all!
Funny you say that - we were just having a conversation over on another thread where someone was being rude to a newbie.
Nice try in generating some discussion. You are to be applauded for your attempt. Alas, a lot of people don't recognise it, and prefer instead to say "ur a noob" for your opinion. In text speak.
By the way, someone asked what GCSE meant? General Certificate of Secondary Education. It's what Thatcher replaced the O-level with when she decided that Britain should strive for mediocrity. It means that everyone gets lots of A-grades at the age of 16.
Nice try in generating some discussion. You are to be applauded for your attempt. Alas, a lot of people don't recognise it, and prefer instead to say "ur a noob" for your opinion. In text speak.
By the way, someone asked what GCSE meant? General Certificate of Secondary Education. It's what Thatcher replaced the O-level with when she decided that Britain should strive for mediocrity. It means that everyone gets lots of A-grades at the age of 16.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]ermin wrote: [/QUOTENAME]While the Works, AKOM, and the Miracle produced their fair share of hits, there is no denying that much of what Queen recorded were rather average fillers, at least if measured by the standards Queen established in the 1970s. [/QUOTE]
Well, if you say there's no denying, then there's no denying. How serious and mature of you.
Well, if you say there's no denying, then there's no denying. How serious and mature of you.
Well, all n00b talk aside, I personally feel very passionately about Queen, their 70's albums in particular. There are no songs I don't enjoy listening to from this period. Some may not care for every song, but that does not make any of it filler. We're talking about what is arguably, and yes, I will argue it, the most creative rock band of all time. Can someone really say that these guys would just fill an album with packing peanuts in between powerful rock masterpieces that the band obviously put their all into?
Now in regards to 80's albums, I am for the most part less impressed with the albums. Unless we're talking "Under pressure", don't even say "Hot Space" to me. "Cool Cat"? Are you kidding me? And there is one shining track on "The Miracle", Being "I Want It All". Anyway, "A Kind of Magic" "The Works" and "The Game" have some much better written songs, even if you're not a fan of production of the albums. I think the best example that Queen still had it in the 80's can be heard in "Live At Wembley" where Queen's classics are played their at that time more current hits. When played live, these songs simply rock. There's no filler here. These are well written songs that still show the creativity and talent of the band.
Lastly, "Innuendo" was a great album to tie up Queen's royal rule. It's such a heavy progressive rock album in parts, and so passionate in other parts.
It would be imprudent to say Queen ever lost creativity.
Now in regards to 80's albums, I am for the most part less impressed with the albums. Unless we're talking "Under pressure", don't even say "Hot Space" to me. "Cool Cat"? Are you kidding me? And there is one shining track on "The Miracle", Being "I Want It All". Anyway, "A Kind of Magic" "The Works" and "The Game" have some much better written songs, even if you're not a fan of production of the albums. I think the best example that Queen still had it in the 80's can be heard in "Live At Wembley" where Queen's classics are played their at that time more current hits. When played live, these songs simply rock. There's no filler here. These are well written songs that still show the creativity and talent of the band.
Lastly, "Innuendo" was a great album to tie up Queen's royal rule. It's such a heavy progressive rock album in parts, and so passionate in other parts.
It would be imprudent to say Queen ever lost creativity.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]ermin wrote: [/QUOTENAME].
Second question: does anyone know a Queen forum where people discuss and debate issues in informed and responsible manners?
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Queenzone.
There's one privso; your thread shouldn't begin with a stupid question. Unless you like stupid answers.
Second question: does anyone know a Queen forum where people discuss and debate issues in informed and responsible manners?
[/QUOTE]
Queenzone.
There's one privso; your thread shouldn't begin with a stupid question. Unless you like stupid answers.