[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Evil Brian May wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Me? A hypocrite? Never!
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Maybe Brian finally said OK to the lighting billboards with one condition: Roger will have to agree to the use of Rupert Murdoch's Myspace. Oh how I wish to order 'The Memoirs Of Jim Beach' from Amazon :)
Brian May ROCKS! He's also a genious.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Jake? wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Brian May ROCKS! He's also a genious.[/QUOTE]
Geniouses abound on this board.
Geniouses abound on this board.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Benn wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Tero.
Absolutely right. If it REALLY bothered Brian, it wouldn't happen, but the machine determines the promotional tools used because they employ marketing professionals who will understand the impact of using a billboard much more so than pandering to one of Brian's whims. If Roger and Paul were bothered about Brian's conviction, then they would have oulled their permission to use their images.
Adolfo.
You're just typical of the type of Queen fan I so despise. Loving the band for everything and anything they do, regardless of how crass it may be or how destructive to the legacy it is. Or, in fact, how ridiculous the members of the band make themselves to be. Be more objective.
Brian's soapbox is laughable for such a seemingly intelligent guy. Roger has the sense to stay away from these types of public pronouncements which could, potentially, damage him.[/QUOTE]
Destructive to the legacy? dude, it is their carrers, its what they do, there is no such thing as destroying anything, they just keep moving on, adjusting to their current situation.
Ridiculous- I dont think so, I dont see u ranting about something you believe is wrong with the world, on the other hand, Brian does, and he gets an incredible response, and no, I dont worship them, I just see things the way they are now, so cry all u want, freddie isnt coming back.
Im just happy two of my heroes can continue to do music.
They have the right to do whatever they want, yes, It might be freddies song, but it has brian´s solo.... If u get what im tryibg to say.
And despise all u want, most people here do
Absolutely right. If it REALLY bothered Brian, it wouldn't happen, but the machine determines the promotional tools used because they employ marketing professionals who will understand the impact of using a billboard much more so than pandering to one of Brian's whims. If Roger and Paul were bothered about Brian's conviction, then they would have oulled their permission to use their images.
Adolfo.
You're just typical of the type of Queen fan I so despise. Loving the band for everything and anything they do, regardless of how crass it may be or how destructive to the legacy it is. Or, in fact, how ridiculous the members of the band make themselves to be. Be more objective.
Brian's soapbox is laughable for such a seemingly intelligent guy. Roger has the sense to stay away from these types of public pronouncements which could, potentially, damage him.[/QUOTE]
Destructive to the legacy? dude, it is their carrers, its what they do, there is no such thing as destroying anything, they just keep moving on, adjusting to their current situation.
Ridiculous- I dont think so, I dont see u ranting about something you believe is wrong with the world, on the other hand, Brian does, and he gets an incredible response, and no, I dont worship them, I just see things the way they are now, so cry all u want, freddie isnt coming back.
Im just happy two of my heroes can continue to do music.
They have the right to do whatever they want, yes, It might be freddies song, but it has brian´s solo.... If u get what im tryibg to say.
And despise all u want, most people here do
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]regmarha wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Maybe Brian finally said OK to the lighting billboards with one condition: Roger will have to agree to the use of Rupert Murdoch's Myspace. Oh how I wish to order 'The Memoirs Of Jim Beach' from Amazon :)
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I start writing my memoirs next week. I would release the book before x-mas, but I don't want to flood the market.
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I start writing my memoirs next week. I would release the book before x-mas, but I don't want to flood the market.
It's sad to once again see both Benn and Tero trailblazing a thread that focuses on the negatives of Queen/Brian related matters. It's also quite funny how they still call him a hypocrite, even though his explanation basically leaves no doubt that he's not!
If his problem with advertising on these kind of signs in town has been outnumbered by others, that means he was still sticking up for his ideals, but failed to get the result. Now, if he was voting FOR advertising on those bright signs, THAT would make him a hypocrite. But he wasn't. You do realise that that is what being a hypocrite means, yeah?
Once again, it saddens me to return to Queenzone after a while away and find such resentment for Brian and co.. Too quick to take the cynical viewpoint and also point towards the more negative take on a situation. Why not display both sides of a story?
Adam.
P.s. did you honestly think Roger would give a shit about how Brian feels about a sign??? If Roger locks himself away until he got the b-side to BoRhap, I'm sure this is merely a small matter to him. lol
If his problem with advertising on these kind of signs in town has been outnumbered by others, that means he was still sticking up for his ideals, but failed to get the result. Now, if he was voting FOR advertising on those bright signs, THAT would make him a hypocrite. But he wasn't. You do realise that that is what being a hypocrite means, yeah?
Once again, it saddens me to return to Queenzone after a while away and find such resentment for Brian and co.. Too quick to take the cynical viewpoint and also point towards the more negative take on a situation. Why not display both sides of a story?
Adam.
P.s. did you honestly think Roger would give a shit about how Brian feels about a sign??? If Roger locks himself away until he got the b-side to BoRhap, I'm sure this is merely a small matter to him. lol
If the soapbox would be bad for their legacy Im sure it would have destroyed it by now since its been up and running for 10 years..
On the contrary I think its good since it is a good way to promomte himself. With all the blogs today I also think it is quite an achievement of Brian to have started one so early. Lastly how many super-rock stars has a personal homepage where he frequently posts, where everyone can contact him and he actually answers a lot of them. He actually seems to go to great lengths to please the fans.
On the contrary I think its good since it is a good way to promomte himself. With all the blogs today I also think it is quite an achievement of Brian to have started one so early. Lastly how many super-rock stars has a personal homepage where he frequently posts, where everyone can contact him and he actually answers a lot of them. He actually seems to go to great lengths to please the fans.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Adam Baboolal wrote: [/QUOTENAME]It's sad to once again see both Benn and Tero trailblazing a thread that focuses on the negatives of Queen/Brian related matters.[/QUOTE]
If you want to make this seem like a personal issue, please stick to the facts.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Adam Baboolal wrote: [/QUOTENAME]It's also quite funny how they still call him a hypocrite, even though his explanation basically leaves no doubt that he's not![/QUOTE]
Where exactly have I called him a hypocrite?
Brian explains the issue away as somebody else's decision, which I've pointed out previously.
I've also pointed out that Brian's opinion has changed since his previous rant... Does that mean I've called him a hypocrite?
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Adam Baboolal wrote: [/QUOTENAME]If his problem with advertising on these kind of signs in town has been outnumbered by others, that means he was still sticking up for his ideals, but failed to get the result. Now, if he was voting FOR advertising on those bright signs, THAT would make him a hypocrite. But he wasn't. You do realise that that is what being a hypocrite means, yeah?.[/QUOTE]
I have no idea whether you're talking about me (I guess you are, because you mentioned my name), so I'll point out once again that I'venever actually called him a hypocrite. "Not a very strong conviction" is far, FAR away from calling somebody a hypocrite.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Adam Baboolal wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Once again, it saddens me to return to Queenzone after a while away and find such resentment for Brian and co.. Too quick to take the cynical viewpoint and also point towards the more negative take on a situation. Why not display both sides of a story?[/QUOTE]
Believe it or not, that's exactly what I've done. Both sides of the story are that
a) either Brian didn't feel it necessary to press the point, or
b) Roger thought it necessary to go against Brian's wish...
What's the other side? Freddie's ghost and Jim Beach? Are they calling the shots?
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Adam Baboolal wrote: [/QUOTENAME]P.s. did you honestly think Roger would give a shit about how Brian feels about a sign??? If Roger locks himself away until he got the b-side to BoRhap, I'm sure this is merely a small matter to him. lol[/QUOTE]
Honestly, I don't think either of them give a shit about the adverts. Brian was having a bad day when he ranted about them in the past, and he's gotten around it since...
If you want to make this seem like a personal issue, please stick to the facts.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Adam Baboolal wrote: [/QUOTENAME]It's also quite funny how they still call him a hypocrite, even though his explanation basically leaves no doubt that he's not![/QUOTE]
Where exactly have I called him a hypocrite?
Brian explains the issue away as somebody else's decision, which I've pointed out previously.
I've also pointed out that Brian's opinion has changed since his previous rant... Does that mean I've called him a hypocrite?
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Adam Baboolal wrote: [/QUOTENAME]If his problem with advertising on these kind of signs in town has been outnumbered by others, that means he was still sticking up for his ideals, but failed to get the result. Now, if he was voting FOR advertising on those bright signs, THAT would make him a hypocrite. But he wasn't. You do realise that that is what being a hypocrite means, yeah?.[/QUOTE]
I have no idea whether you're talking about me (I guess you are, because you mentioned my name), so I'll point out once again that I'venever actually called him a hypocrite. "Not a very strong conviction" is far, FAR away from calling somebody a hypocrite.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Adam Baboolal wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Once again, it saddens me to return to Queenzone after a while away and find such resentment for Brian and co.. Too quick to take the cynical viewpoint and also point towards the more negative take on a situation. Why not display both sides of a story?[/QUOTE]
Believe it or not, that's exactly what I've done. Both sides of the story are that
a) either Brian didn't feel it necessary to press the point, or
b) Roger thought it necessary to go against Brian's wish...
What's the other side? Freddie's ghost and Jim Beach? Are they calling the shots?
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Adam Baboolal wrote: [/QUOTENAME]P.s. did you honestly think Roger would give a shit about how Brian feels about a sign??? If Roger locks himself away until he got the b-side to BoRhap, I'm sure this is merely a small matter to him. lol[/QUOTE]
Honestly, I don't think either of them give a shit about the adverts. Brian was having a bad day when he ranted about them in the past, and he's gotten around it since...
Think there are a lot more people involved besides Roger, Brian and Jim Beach. Record company execs, marketing people, retailers, QP etc. This is a big venture.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Gym Bitch wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE] I start writing my memoirs next week. I would release the book before x-mas, but I don't want to flood the market.[/QUOTE]
Oh my God, so the Jim Beach memoirs I'm reading right now is not the official one? :)
Oh my God, so the Jim Beach memoirs I'm reading right now is not the official one? :)
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]kingogre wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Think there are a lot more people involved besides Roger, Brian and Jim Beach. Record company execs, marketing people, retailers, QP etc. This is a big venture.[/QUOTE]
Either you are incredibly naïve for believing that Brian and Roger aren't calling the shots for their multi-million business venture of over 35 years with AT LEAST 50% decision making power, or Brian and Roger are incredibly stupid for actually doing what you suggest.
These people are in the small minority of recording artists who actually own the rights and recordings of their own releases, and that gives them a helluva lot more power than you give credit for.
Sure, they CAN give that power away if they want to, but that would mean giving away the control of their work and livelihood for practically all their adult lives... Sounds reasonable, doesn't it?
Then again, everything sounds reasonable if you don't want to think bad things about your idols. ;)
Either you are incredibly naïve for believing that Brian and Roger aren't calling the shots for their multi-million business venture of over 35 years with AT LEAST 50% decision making power, or Brian and Roger are incredibly stupid for actually doing what you suggest.
These people are in the small minority of recording artists who actually own the rights and recordings of their own releases, and that gives them a helluva lot more power than you give credit for.
Sure, they CAN give that power away if they want to, but that would mean giving away the control of their work and livelihood for practically all their adult lives... Sounds reasonable, doesn't it?
Then again, everything sounds reasonable if you don't want to think bad things about your idols. ;)
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Tero wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]kingogre wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Think there are a lot more people involved besides Roger, Brian and Jim Beach. Record company execs, marketing people, retailers, QP etc. This is a big venture.[/QUOTE]
Either you are incredibly naïve for believing that Brian and Roger aren't calling the shots for their multi-million business venture of over 35 years with AT LEAST 50% decision making power, or Brian and Roger are incredibly stupid for actually doing what you suggest.
These people are in the small minority of recording artists who actually own the rights and recordings of their own releases, and that gives them a helluva lot more power than you give credit for.
Sure, they CAN give that power away if they want to, but that would mean giving away the control of their work and livelihood for practically all their adult lives... Sounds reasonable, doesn't it?
Then again, everything sounds reasonable if you don't want to think bad things about your idols. ;)[/QUOTE]
But you know, they cant sell the album on their own. They are dependent on a long line of companies, retailers and marketers. All of which have their own routines of working.And Queen is one of the biggest bands in the world, Id be surprised if Brian and Roger even knows about a lot of things that happen in QP.
Idols are overrated, you grow out of having them..
Either you are incredibly naïve for believing that Brian and Roger aren't calling the shots for their multi-million business venture of over 35 years with AT LEAST 50% decision making power, or Brian and Roger are incredibly stupid for actually doing what you suggest.
These people are in the small minority of recording artists who actually own the rights and recordings of their own releases, and that gives them a helluva lot more power than you give credit for.
Sure, they CAN give that power away if they want to, but that would mean giving away the control of their work and livelihood for practically all their adult lives... Sounds reasonable, doesn't it?
Then again, everything sounds reasonable if you don't want to think bad things about your idols. ;)[/QUOTE]
But you know, they cant sell the album on their own. They are dependent on a long line of companies, retailers and marketers. All of which have their own routines of working.And Queen is one of the biggest bands in the world, Id be surprised if Brian and Roger even knows about a lot of things that happen in QP.
Idols are overrated, you grow out of having them..
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]kingogre wrote: [/QUOTENAME]But you know, they cant sell the album on their own. They are dependent on a long line of companies, retailers and marketers. All of which have their own routines of working.And Queen is one of the biggest bands in the world, Id be surprised if Brian and Roger even knows about a lot of things that happen in QP.[/QUOTE]
Who says they even have to sell loads of albums? :P
People call ME cynical, but I at least entertain the possibility that artists could be making art just for their own pleasure, and sell it to whoever happens to like what they make, however they make it.
That IS what other artists do, you know. ;)
Who says they even have to sell loads of albums? :P
People call ME cynical, but I at least entertain the possibility that artists could be making art just for their own pleasure, and sell it to whoever happens to like what they make, however they make it.
That IS what other artists do, you know. ;)
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Tero wrote: [/QUOTENAME]
That IS what other artists do, you know. ;)[/QUOTE]
No it isnt.;)
That IS what other artists do, you know. ;)[/QUOTE]
No it isnt.;)