Ok...a million people have probably posted this but...
Why won't queen release any multitrack masters commercially.
from their point of view it's money for old rope and from ours it's bloody fascinating...
so what's their problem?
Hate to sound so...demanding. But it's SO FRUSTRATING!
Any replies or are you all to scared? Haha!
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Because it would make it too easy for samplers.
they don´t want to release any b-side, demo, unknown songs, bbc sessions ... aka the f****** Queen Anthology ... and you suggest the possibility of releasing the multitrack masters?
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Sampling - precisely. Imagine every little piece of their songs being utilised in someone elses work, i.e. Brian's guitars or Freddie/Brian/Roger vocal samples. And while that's a lot to deal with in itself, you couldn't really keep a track on people sneakily putting it out in a song. It may be impossible for QP (etc.) to know for sure if something was used.
And I know I probably wouldn't like my own tracks to get out in multitrack form. I'd feel a little exposed and I wonder what a famous band would feel like. The same way? Apart from pissed, that is!!
Adam.
And I know I probably wouldn't like my own tracks to get out in multitrack form. I'd feel a little exposed and I wonder what a famous band would feel like. The same way? Apart from pissed, that is!!
Adam.
That would be kind of viral - in a GOOD way. And wouldn't detract from revenue or, more importantly, the reputation of their body of work.
The multi's are from a band that does not exist anymore, and they had their time to work with them. I think its time to give these new young people a chance to work with this material, and maybe just maybe some new bands will discover what real music used to sound like. win-win situation imho.
I think Queen's lawyers are able to figure out if samples are being used! My point is releasing them for private use. Granted i shouldn't really have hold of the leaked tapes in the first place but i have and they are the most amazing thing i think i've ever heard.
I just don't see why they won't release them. Sampling could easily be fished out because it'd be the only decent sounding thing in the charts :P. But seriously. They're happy for us to listen to the same old songs but remastered so we can hear new bits (high Def. mixes, anyone?) and listen while Brian dissects the Bo Rap parts on DVD but not listen to the individual parts on itunes or whatever? Call me foolish but I really don't see the problem...
I just don't see why they won't release them. Sampling could easily be fished out because it'd be the only decent sounding thing in the charts :P. But seriously. They're happy for us to listen to the same old songs but remastered so we can hear new bits (high Def. mixes, anyone?) and listen while Brian dissects the Bo Rap parts on DVD but not listen to the individual parts on itunes or whatever? Call me foolish but I really don't see the problem...
Also...if people sample the masters doesn't that mean that queen'd make even MORE money through their release?
It would be nice if BM/JD/RT could go back and polish up some of those B sides that seemed to hashed together very quickly, if they were given that extra time and detail could have been considered worthy of another commercial album not just for collectors or Queen enthusiasts like myself.
I thought that Hang on In There really had potential to be a big hit until that piano section with Freddie kicks in towards the end and fucked it up, I did love Brians closing guitar licks though played shortly after, this is an example where a little time and polish on this could have paid dividends.
RT Hijack My Heart is another commercial track I believe that could have gone on an album, maybe a bit more work/production on this would do the trick also.
I can't believe RT did such a great job on Jimmy Nail's 'Love Don't Live Here Anymore' can you imagine Freddie singing that version it would have been amazing!!! I know its considered Pop but quality sells whatever the format.
SO QZrs what do you think?
I thought that Hang on In There really had potential to be a big hit until that piano section with Freddie kicks in towards the end and fucked it up, I did love Brians closing guitar licks though played shortly after, this is an example where a little time and polish on this could have paid dividends.
RT Hijack My Heart is another commercial track I believe that could have gone on an album, maybe a bit more work/production on this would do the trick also.
I can't believe RT did such a great job on Jimmy Nail's 'Love Don't Live Here Anymore' can you imagine Freddie singing that version it would have been amazing!!! I know its considered Pop but quality sells whatever the format.
SO QZrs what do you think?
I think it's just a thing with the art... you know a painter shows the audience just the painted picture and not the drafts he made bevor or he made on the paper he finaly uses... and that's the way a musician things to, I think... the final song in it's mixed form is the piece of art and the artist does not want to destroy the image in showing how he painted it!
Alt least I would not want it, because the final product is the art!
Alt least I would not want it, because the final product is the art!
But drafts are rubbish. this isn't a draft. It's part of the finished product!
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Mercury 90 wrote: [/QUOTENAME]I think it's just a thing with the art... you know a painter shows the audience just the painted picture and not the drafts he made bevor or he made on the paper he finaly uses... and that's the way a musician things to, I think... the final song in it's mixed form is the piece of art and the artist does not want to destroy the image in showing how he painted it!
Alt least I would not want it, because the final product is the art![/QUOTE]
And yet many art lovers would die to get their hands on early drawings and sketches of almost ANY famous painter. Would be fascinating to see early drafts of the Mona Lisa for example.
My point is that when it is established that a song/painting is a brilliant piece of art, NOTHING the artist himself did/made can bring that down.
Some time ago I posted an early version of BoRhap vocals. They are really pretty bad and out of key, but that only made the original that more real and deep. (to me)
Alt least I would not want it, because the final product is the art![/QUOTE]
And yet many art lovers would die to get their hands on early drawings and sketches of almost ANY famous painter. Would be fascinating to see early drafts of the Mona Lisa for example.
My point is that when it is established that a song/painting is a brilliant piece of art, NOTHING the artist himself did/made can bring that down.
Some time ago I posted an early version of BoRhap vocals. They are really pretty bad and out of key, but that only made the original that more real and deep. (to me)
it's all about following their journey to the end production. and besides...many multitracks would maybe only have the finished takes on them...
No big established bands are ever going to start releasing multitracks of big albums. What format would it take? Who's going to buy it apart from a handful of nerds? Plus, I'm sure very few artists would like the idea of amateurs fucking around with the bones of their material. And as previously stated, it would be a minefield in regard to sampling.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Negative Creep wrote: [/QUOTENAME]No big established bands are ever going to start releasing multitracks of big albums. What format would it take? Who's going to buy it apart from a handful of nerds? Plus, I'm sure very few artists would like the idea of amateurs fucking around with the bones of their material. And as previously stated, it would be a minefield in regard to sampling.[/QUOTE]
Two words: Rock Band. A number of complete albums are available to be downloaded as separate vocal, guitar, bass, drum, and misc tracks in the Rock Band games. For instance Rush's Moving Pictures I know was scheduled to be released. I don't know where that stands now because I don't have the game myself, but just imagine if Queen did something like that.
Two words: Rock Band. A number of complete albums are available to be downloaded as separate vocal, guitar, bass, drum, and misc tracks in the Rock Band games. For instance Rush's Moving Pictures I know was scheduled to be released. I don't know where that stands now because I don't have the game myself, but just imagine if Queen did something like that.